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Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 23 17:15:02 2013 The good news: He's already filing a lawsuit. http://www.photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/01/21/i-was-attacked-by-miami-dade-metrorail-security-guards-for-taking-photos-and-shooting-video/ |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 23 17:29:17 2013, in response to Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 23 17:15:02 2013. I hope he does NOT settle out of court and gets them for a whole million in damages.Then layoff one million dollars worth of rent-a-cops. |
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Posted by snarf368 on Wed Jan 23 17:33:20 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 23 17:29:17 2013. Settling may be in the best interest of both parties involved. Even if the rent a cops were wrong, how is laying off a million dollars worth of guards in the riding public's best interest. Miami is not exactly a safe city. |
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Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security |
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Posted by chud1 on Wed Jan 23 17:47:17 2013, in response to Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 23 17:15:02 2013. if they tell u to turn it off, than do it. do not cause a rutkus.chud1 |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 23 18:08:11 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by chud1 on Wed Jan 23 17:47:17 2013. Why? Photography in public places is perfectly legal. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 18:13:18 2013, in response to Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 23 17:15:02 2013. I hope that foamer gets a lifetime meal ticket from the taxpayers. Don't like it, DEMAND PIG ACCOUNTABILITY. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 18:16:36 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by snarf368 on Wed Jan 23 17:33:20 2013. I hope the guy cashes in like Powerball. The pigs and the taxpayers need to learn that pig brutality COSTS BIG. |
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Posted by piyer on Wed Jan 23 18:24:16 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by chud1 on Wed Jan 23 17:47:17 2013. No, if they tell you to turn it off it means that they do not want an indisputable record of the incident. Without a recording, it's your word against theirs. A recording holds their actions, rather than their veracity, up for scrutiny. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 23 18:50:25 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by snarf368 on Wed Jan 23 17:33:20 2013. You know why this keeps happening over 10 years after 9-11-01 ? Because people keep "settling", no lessons learned, it is forgotten, until the next time. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Jan 23 19:48:20 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by snarf368 on Wed Jan 23 17:33:20 2013. That is implying that the rent-a-cops are doing much to curtail crime anyway. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 23 20:06:31 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by chud1 on Wed Jan 23 17:47:17 2013. The only reasonable post in this thread, so far. |
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Posted by zuckie13 on Wed Jan 23 20:10:46 2013, in response to Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 23 17:15:02 2013. All he's got is evidence that he was trying to pick a fight. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 23 20:13:16 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by zuckie13 on Wed Jan 23 20:10:46 2013. IAWTP |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 23 20:43:29 2013, in response to Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 23 17:15:02 2013. The further left a country goes, the more aggressive the police. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 23 20:54:26 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 23 20:43:29 2013. Boy howdy on that! :-\  
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 20:56:54 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 23 18:08:11 2013. Seems to me that this guy was looking to provoke a 2nd incident and got his wish. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 23 20:58:44 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 23 17:29:17 2013. The idiot won't get a dime. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 21:03:37 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 23 20:58:44 2013. I hope he gets sentenced to another beating so the lesson sinks in. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 21:04:23 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by zuckie13 on Wed Jan 23 20:10:46 2013. Exactly |
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Posted by merrick1 on Wed Jan 23 21:08:53 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by zuckie13 on Wed Jan 23 20:10:46 2013. A least one of the rent-a-cops has a gun. That's pretty scary.All three of them are wearing kevlar tactical gloves which most rent-a-cop companies don't allow. You might as well let them carry brass knuckles. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jan 23 21:13:19 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 23 20:43:29 2013. Question everything or shut up and be a victim of authority. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jan 23 21:15:07 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jan 23 21:13:19 2013. May impair your ability to operate machinery.Classic |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 23 22:30:27 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 20:56:54 2013. Only if you believe the words, "don't touch me" are "provocative".Photography of the scope and nature of Miller's activities is completely legal, even on the Miami Metro. In fact, a whole bunch of us did a photo shoot about three years ago at a Metro station, for a Miami Sizzle promotional, with security watching, and not a peep did we hear from them. That suggests they knew full well, then as now, that taking pictures in public is OK. I didn't see anything in Miller's actions, as filmed, that would suggest he provoked the incident, other than taking pictures to begin with. I'd sure like to see the local law or Miami Metro regulation that prohibits one from photographing the tracks of the system. It seems to me the security goons pulled THAT one out of their asses...just sayin'... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 22:47:46 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 23 22:30:27 2013. I think that if you view the incident through an objective eye, there were several opportunities to deescalate when the photographer chose to escalate the confrontation instead. I'm just looking at things the way I might have reacted, though. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 22:53:56 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 22:47:46 2013. Give a coward a badge and this is what you get. fuck the taxpayers, They've got to suck it up when they hire pigs. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 22:57:38 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 20:56:54 2013. PIG brutality should be a capital offense. That foamer should NEVER HAVE TO WORK AGAIN, Courtesy of the taxpayers. Maybe next tome they will hold those with badges accountable for a change. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 22:58:29 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 23 20:43:29 2013. Go back to england COWARD ASSHOLE. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 23 22:58:50 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 22:47:46 2013. Metro-Dade Transit's rules and regs prohibit only commercial photography, which Miller and his friend were NOT engaging in, to say nothing of the First Amendment. I'd be pretty pissed myself if a bunch of unelected security guards tried to make up the law on the spot.I do admit to being a bit surprised by the guards' behavior with Mr. Miller--again, I participated in a Miami Sizzle photo shoot on the system--unquestionably a commercial activity, but all the security people did was watch us... |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 22:59:31 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 23 20:54:26 2013. We need to SMASH the right. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:03:06 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 23 20:58:44 2013. Any PIGG who utters talk like that should loxse his job and if PIGGS uniote behind him they should go to jail IN UNIFORM (no gun) Let's see if you're brave enough to face that you asswipe coward. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:04:06 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by merrick1 on Wed Jan 23 21:08:53 2013. Gutless piggs. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:05:23 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 21:03:37 2013. I hope he gets the body armor budget for the Miami PD. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:07:25 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 21:04:23 2013. PIGGS don't deserve sympathy when they commit TREASON.PIGGS, They are NOT working class, END PIGG "UNIONS" |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 23:08:06 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 23 22:58:50 2013. I'm not talking only about right and wrong. The photographer's demeanor was one of someone looking for a confrontation. I might have chosen to deescalate the confrontation. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:08:58 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 23 20:13:16 2013. PBAPiggs Beating All I'll trust the Mafia before Unionized cops |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:09:58 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 23 20:06:31 2013. Yeah, SUBmit to the PIGG. no wonder this is AmeriKKKa |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:10:02 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by chud1 on Wed Jan 23 17:47:17 2013. Why turn it off? If the rent-a-cops weren't intending to break the law, why are they concerned about being recorded? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:11:29 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 20:56:54 2013. By your argument, I should beat you up and then have you arrested for "provoking" me. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:13:37 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by zuckie13 on Wed Jan 23 20:10:46 2013. If you believe that assault and battery is somehow not a crime, I'd be happy to send someone with a lead pipe to your place of residence. Remember, when he gets there, stand perfectly still— if you try to defend yourself, it means you're picking a fight and therefore it's all your fault. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:18:14 2013, in response to Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 23 17:15:02 2013. Those rent-a-cops should consider themselves very lucky. Florida has rather lenient concealed carry laws and I believe the "stand your ground" law is still in effect. The minute those guards touched him, both Mr. Miller and his companion would have been legally entitled to shoot the three of them. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:19:39 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 23 21:03:37 2013. Look, if you hate America so much, why don't you just leave? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:20:53 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:13:37 2013. It's not a crime when the thug has a badge, just ask Phil Rosen, NYPD (ret). |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:23:43 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:07:25 2013. Treason? Seriously?All I saw on the video was aggravated battery, punishable by a mere 15 years in Florida state prison. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:29:17 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:23:43 2013. When a cop does it, yes. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 23 23:31:00 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 22:59:31 2013. Judging by what they keep offering as candy-dates, I think they're pretty smashed as they are. Perhaps a ride home is needed since I ain't giving them back the keys to their car. :) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 23 23:39:26 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 23 22:30:27 2013. When i had my Run-in when i was in San Diego with MTS Security i was pleasant and cordial.I knew the rules i wasn't acting like"So what you are just a rent a cop". I will question though and if it gets too hot ill keep it moving..... I dont go looking for fights with folks in uniforms, even if they may be wrong. This person if you ask me looks like he was, just my opinion. Heres how it went down |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 23 23:46:27 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 23 23:39:26 2013. "reinstructed" ... lol! :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 23 23:55:16 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 23 23:29:17 2013. No, treason requires a bit more than that.President-elect Reagan negotiating with Iranian hostage-takers to keep Americans imprisoned and to prevent an American embassy from being released so that he, personally, could benefit by being the one to "free" them after he was inaugurated is probably treason. General Petraeus threatening the President by declaring that he would implement his preferred strategy in Afghanistan regardless of his orders is definitely insubordination and a particularly clever US Attorney could potentially argue that it's treason. A gang of armed men beating up an unarmed bystander? Cops or not, it's still just aggravated battery, a second degree felony, punishable by 15 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. I'm all for imposing more severe penalties for colour of law crimes, but at the moment attacking a cop is considered more severe a crime but a cop attacking a bystander is not. |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Jan 24 00:32:47 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 23 20:54:26 2013. Heh there's a guy a jail now for making a you tube film blamed for the deaths of Americans in Libya.ibAnd all I heard from you lefty libs was splitting hairs as to why it was ok to arrest him1 |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 24 00:36:32 2013, in response to Re: Railfan photogtapher has extremely violent run in with Miami-Dade Metrorail security, posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Jan 24 00:32:47 2013. Specifics? |
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