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Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 27 03:00:52 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Edwards! on Sun May 27 02:37:50 2012. Known as the "ROOT of the dog" for good reason. :) |
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Posted by monorail on Sun May 27 03:03:31 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat May 26 16:44:13 2012. guess none of them will be postin' 'em here..... |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun May 27 03:26:19 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sat May 26 14:43:31 2012. To my surprise, the 2 times I rode the R32s, their aa/c were bertter than the R46s. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun May 27 03:42:26 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 26 18:47:28 2012. also to assist passengers?chud1 |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun May 27 03:57:30 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 27 03:00:52 2012. thats what we called CDTA back in the days.Today they are nice enough to toss a bus there by you..the 19! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 27 04:27:28 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Edwards! on Sun May 27 03:57:30 2012. CDTA ... you made a funny! :) |
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Posted by FarRock on Sun May 27 05:59:59 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sat May 26 14:43:31 2012. The AC cant handle big crowds for so long, once the crowd dissappears the AC starts kicking again. |
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Posted by FarRock on Sun May 27 06:03:20 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat May 26 18:50:58 2012. The only rollsign on the train appropriate for the Rock Park Shuttle is (H) |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun May 27 07:07:53 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Dude on Sun May 27 02:05:44 2012. IAWTP. Those GE controllers on the R-62s require much less pressure to hold down once you've got it down. Whereas the R-62A controllers are constantly pushing back up. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun May 27 07:35:11 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun May 27 03:26:19 2012. The point is there are more failures of individual car air conditioners in the R32's than in the R46's.We're not talking about how cool the car is, but if you ask NYCT they'll tell you there is not difference in that aspect. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun May 27 07:38:01 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat May 26 23:33:20 2012. The c/r would have called in the assault.NYCT employees should not be human shields to "take the hit" rather than someone else, be it an assault, a stabbing or a gun shot. Should this happen, who is to call the incident in? Sorry. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sun May 27 08:16:23 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 26 21:35:31 2012. What about those signs with a picture of a conductor encouraging passengers to ride in the center of the train at night.Wasn't it policy for conductors on half cab equipment to stand outside the cab between stations? Suppose a passenger wants directions? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 27 09:55:41 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat May 26 18:50:58 2012. (Heaving) Harry strikes again! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 27 09:58:49 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by monorail on Sat May 26 10:05:25 2012. Good question. You would think they'd stay put on the Three Stooges Division. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 27 10:00:26 2012, in response to The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by FarRock on Sat May 26 08:33:12 2012. As long as Abbott and Costello don't swap personalities, we'll be OK.:)Now, over at Euclid Ave., we've got Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know is on third.... |
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Re: Pop-a-matic Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 27 10:22:54 2012, in response to Pop-a-matic Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by b/p rupture on Sun May 27 02:19:25 2012. The pre-GOH R-46s had so much air that at speed I saw a JFK Express run a signal and heard 2 distinct pops from the trip cocks before the last car put the train into the hole.The experiences that you had may have simply been the result of the characteristics of the pilot valve (on the R-44 it was not called a pilot valve as that name was given to another valve). I don't believe that any such difference was ever noted, however, as each contract of car was brake tested annually and involved dumping the train at speed. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 27 10:25:34 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun May 27 02:59:31 2012. Except during Cold Weather Plan #4 when the Shuttle is required to go to Euclid Avenue so customers do not have to change at an outdoor station. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun May 27 10:59:05 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 27 10:00:26 2012. today is pitching and tomorrow is catching.chud1 |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun May 27 11:34:58 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 27 10:00:26 2012. I dunno, Steve - I thought it was rather neat seeing R46s on the "C" and it was a treat to get an RFW on the "A".wayne |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun May 27 11:53:47 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by ClearAspect on Sat May 26 23:02:39 2012. Obesity makes every thing look or feel smaller. |
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Posted by grimace1169 on Sun May 27 11:55:09 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by monorail on Sat May 26 23:05:45 2012. I'd love to see the 32's on the J. |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Sun May 27 12:42:50 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Dude on Sat May 26 15:08:32 2012. How did they survive on the E for so many years? |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun May 27 12:57:55 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Ian Lennon on Sun May 27 12:42:50 2012. I wonder the same thing. The E was 100% R32 for years and now after the line gets R160s these A/c problems come to light. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sun May 27 13:05:06 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by TonyG on Sun May 27 12:57:55 2012. The R32s did have air conditioner problems their last summer on the E. I thought Transit had just cut back on maintenance because the R 160s were coming in and the R32s were headed for retirement. But for some reason when they decided the R32s were going to be around a while longer they couldn't seem to get the air conditioners back into good condition. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun May 27 13:15:23 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by TonyG on Sun May 27 12:57:55 2012. Back in the day, there were more Entrance/exits and ventilation grates through the system.The elimination of fare zones at stations that had more then one fare zone also saw the elimination of entrances. Some ventilation grate were sealed. This lead to less air flow and the retention of heat underground. The shrinking of the size of the mezzanines on the IND reduced the volume where hot air could rise to. System Warming! The glaciers in the subways are extinct! |
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Re: Pop-a-matic Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46) |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sun May 27 13:34:02 2012, in response to Re: Pop-a-matic Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Dude on Sun May 27 10:22:54 2012. WOW, how much air did those R46 hold!? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sun May 27 13:34:47 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Avid Reader on Sun May 27 11:53:47 2012. But I only weight 155 pounds... lol |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun May 27 13:44:52 2012, in response to The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by FarRock on Sat May 26 08:33:12 2012. Bump..Spotted heading for 207 Street for customer service an R42... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 13:57:52 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Ian Lennon on Sun May 27 12:42:50 2012. They didn't. They started failing big time in 2004. Remember the hot car threads? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 14:00:40 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by merrick1 on Sun May 27 13:05:06 2012. 
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 14:03:39 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Dude on Sat May 26 15:08:32 2012. Even if it's 95 degrees out? It's gonna be a HOT summer and even running near the ocean won't be much help in August. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 14:09:35 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Railman718 on Sun May 27 13:44:52 2012. Where is these R42's coming from? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 14:10:03 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Railman718 on Sun May 27 13:44:52 2012. Where ARE these R42's coming from? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 27 14:47:23 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Railman718 on Sun May 27 13:44:52 2012. I was just on the Manhattan-bound (L) platform at Broadway Junction a little while ago, saw two complete 8-car R-42 trains sitting in ENY yard. I think these two are the only R-42s still in the East. Can anyone confirm? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 16:19:55 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 27 14:47:23 2012. There are probably 2 layed up at 111th St (as per usual on a weekend). There is also one currently in service. |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Sun May 27 17:15:21 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 14:00:40 2012. YES-Absolutley..!WE-44 |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 27 17:19:39 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by TonyG on Sun May 27 12:57:55 2012. The E had it's fare (sorry......fair) share of air conditioning issues with the R-32s. I once had on a couple of occasions had trains of R-32s where 5 or more cars of a 10 car train be really broiling, and Parsons Archer definitely took them out of service. The real problem is when they get laid up, no one wants to shut the HVAC down, and they then run for hours and hours while they are laid up. How long do you think they are gonna run, almost continuously until they crap out?? |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 27 17:23:36 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by FarRock on Sun May 27 05:59:59 2012. Plus keep in mind no one likes to shut off the HVAC when the trains are laid up, so even when they are not in service, they run almost continuously. Whenever I was on a train that was to be laid up (i.e. when I did "Mary" layups at CIY), I always went in the cab and hit the switch to cut off the HVAC. It's not hard to do. Still, no one does it. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 27 17:27:30 2012, in response to The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by FarRock on Sat May 26 08:33:12 2012. So far, I'm out here in Queens along the A, nothing but R-46s so far. Not photoworthy |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 27 17:42:16 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 27 17:27:30 2012. Okay, spotted one 10-car set of R-32s, southbound out of Aqueduct as I type this. Yes, have photos, will post!! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 27 18:33:54 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 27 17:42:16 2012. Second one spotted.....currently riding it |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 27 18:48:50 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 16:19:55 2012. On a Jamaica-bound J at 75 St. now. I'll let you know if I see any R-42s at 111. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 27 18:55:42 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 27 18:48:50 2012. There is no equipment of any type or class laying up at, or just north of, 111 St. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 27 19:20:53 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun May 27 18:33:54 2012. Third set spotted on the 207 - Far Rockaway A service. Photos definitely forthcoming!!77 |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 27 19:50:41 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun May 27 11:34:58 2012. My feelings exactly. Once I'm done riding on the IND old timers on July 29th, I'm going to try to fit an R-32 Abbott ride in before heading back to my motel in Jersey. |
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Posted by monorail on Sun May 27 20:13:55 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by grimace1169 on Sun May 27 11:55:09 2012. would be mice to see them there again... |
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Posted by monorail on Sun May 27 20:14:15 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by monorail on Sun May 27 20:13:55 2012. 'nice' not 'mice'.... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 27 20:15:52 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Ian Lennon on Sun May 27 12:42:50 2012. You are certainly making an assumption that was not true. The R-32s were failing miserably on the E for at least 2 years before they were moved. To keep in in context, though, when the cars were at Jamaica, the approach to maintenance may have been different. The AC Compressor motors were certainly newer as was the entire HVAC system. Thus the systems ran more efficiently and thus cooler at first. Also consider that the E runs express while the C runs local - hence the doors opened less often on the E - allowing the HVAC system to work less hard. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 27 20:19:01 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by monorail on Sun May 27 20:14:15 2012. Booooooo! :)
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Posted by CJ on Sun May 27 20:23:30 2012, in response to Re: The Big Swap Of 2012 (R32,R42,R46), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 27 14:00:40 2012. Yep miss them myself. |
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