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Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 26 14:47:42 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 26 13:45:10 2011. I lived in a reality-based community once - town of Bethlehem. Didn't work out though, so I moved out. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 26 14:49:08 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 26 13:59:39 2011. Exactly what I'm hoping for. Only difference is I'm hoping they find Hoffa while they're digging. :) |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 14:50:14 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 25 21:01:37 2011. I would imagine after. Once the war was over and construction resumed on the station shells S/O ENY which involved laying track, installing signals and tiling the stations the work probably progressed at a feverish rate. The first station to be opened after the war was actually Bway/ENY which already had the station finish completed and apparently the interlocking machine installed since that was the last conventional lever model 5 GRS installed on the system, Euclid and Pitkin receiving push button interlockings. Of course, depending on the way the contractors worked, it could be possible that the stations were tiled from Euclid(or 76 St) north but then how would that account for the descriptions that indicate that 76 St was only partially tiled. In all likelihood, tile work on the stations was completed before rails were laid as was the case with ENY and if that were to be the case that might account for a partial station finish at 76 St. Sub contractors for station finishing may have been working at a faster pace than those installing the track and signals and the station would have been partially tiled when the word came down to halt further construction. |
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Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street) |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 14:53:23 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Teddmann on Wed Jan 26 08:56:18 2011. I don't remember exactly where I saw it but it may have been on nycsubway.org. There are sub sections for cars, stations which also includes abandoned stations and somewhere on that site there are some documents relating to various subway construction proposals over the years |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:13:13 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 25 20:49:20 2011. From the time line when Rocky Av opened (I believe 1936) until the subway was extended to ENY, there is an unusually long period of time since the war for the USA did not start until 1941. From some of the early proposals for IND expansion, it seems that when the IND was extended to Rocky Av the city did not yet have a definitive plan for exactly where they wanted the subway to go beyond that point. Otherwise the subway would have been built at least as far as ENY if not further. As I mentioned in another post, there were 3 possibilities that I am aware of for further expansion. One involved continuing straight out Fulton St under the present J Line structure. Another was down Liberty Av past ENY and the third was what was eventually built which is under Pitkin Av following almost exactly the route of the Fulton St El. All of those options included the takeover of the potion of the Fulton St El that the IND now operates. It seems to me that the decision to adopt the present route was not adopted until after unification in 1940 since a continuation down Fulton St would probably not have allowed for a transfer to the BMT Bway Jct complex. In order to provide for the transfer, the subway had to be angled slightly north under Truxton Park to place it close enough to the BMT to enable an easy transfer something that was not provided for with the BMT Fulton St El. Prior to unification, the city really didn't care about convenient inter company transfers but now that the entire system was under city operation, ease of connections between what were now divisions within a unified transit system was something to be sought. My theory is that the final routing was not established until unification in 1940 and construction east of Rocky Av was probably not started until then and before the rest of the line was completed, the war intervened. Had one of the aforementioned proposals been firmly agreed on, the IND would likely have been completed a lot farther east and a lot sooner than it eventually was probably a few years prior to unification. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:15:47 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Jan 25 20:43:25 2011. Only one of them that I know of was a buff and he wasn't into photography. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Wed Jan 26 15:17:31 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:13:13 2011. the 4th.was to ramp up at rockaway ave.&conn.it to the fulton st.el.i,ve seen the era`s paperwork on this. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Wed Jan 26 15:20:48 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 26 14:23:35 2011. what weird nearby basement?vague? explain how its vague. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:22:05 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by tunnelrat on Wed Jan 26 15:17:31 2011. Highly doubtful since the portion of the Fulton St El between Hinsdale and Grant had not been rebuilt to dual contract standards and could not support anything heavier than a Multi and I don't think the city at that point would have wanted to rebuild any el structures. I would imagine if that portion had been rebuilt under the dual contracts, then the IND would have connected it up at that point to save on construction costs. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Wed Jan 26 15:24:29 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:22:05 2011. it was a proposal, nothing else.I agree with you on the rebuilding of the el. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:25:44 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Jan 26 11:00:48 2011. That's about right the diverge is not immediately inside the portal but slightly farther up towards Conduit. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:31:15 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 26 07:19:09 2011. There is a photo in a book about Bay ridge that shows the 77 St entrance to the 4 Av subway on the N/W corner of 77/4 circa 1917. The only building in the area is the small church that is still there but none of the 6 story apartment houses in the area including the one I live in are there yet. There are not even any small homes in the photo. The subway station in all that wide open space looks even odder than a station at 76/Pitkin would. The subway, however did bring a lot of real estate development to the area. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:34:47 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by tunnelrat on Wed Jan 26 15:24:29 2011. It would have been nice if it could have been done that way though. Since it was proposed, I wonder if the city might have been considering upgrading that portion of the el since like Liberty Jct as compared with further continuance of the Pitkin Av subway it would have been cheaper than building a subway and accomplished the same basic purpose. |
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Posted by f179dj on Wed Jan 26 15:39:47 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 26 14:00:17 2011. "Until a couple years ago, the eastbound side was Jericho Turnpike, and the west bound side was Jamaica Ave making for confusion."I liked it that way, LOL. Didn't confuse me. Sort of gave the area a sense of differentness. Always knew I was on a road that would take me home directly, regardless of its name on signs or a map. I grew up in Hollis before rappers PUT it on the map; was always asked, "Hollis, where's that." Shoot, the biggest news now for us is the stomping at Wendys at Braddock and Hillside, puts Queens Village on the map. (And before I get critized, my sympathies go out for the victim of this crime.) |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jan 26 16:01:00 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by f179dj on Wed Jan 26 15:39:47 2011. Hollis - remember the White Castle? No more.... |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jan 26 16:01:00 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by f179dj on Wed Jan 26 15:39:47 2011. Hollis - remember the White Castle? No more.... |
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Posted by f179dj on Wed Jan 26 16:07:18 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jan 26 16:01:00 2011. FLB and Hollis Ave? Good riddance. Not that anything good has replaced it.We used to go to the Jack in the Box on Linden and Springfield for tacos. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 26 16:46:28 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:13:13 2011. Did the LIRR tunnel under Atlantic have anything to do with the hold up since the lines were constructed around the same time?Also..I understand the IND wanted to build a branch line from the ENY station under Jamaica Avenue to the Jamaica EL at Cypress Hills..would have solved the direct Jamaica to Downtown Brooklyn problem.. why wasnt that followed thru? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 26 16:58:46 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 26 14:23:35 2011. well..we know the JERSEY DEVIL is true..you're to busy trying convince us you don't exist! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 26 17:00:00 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 26 13:51:32 2011. Well..that seals it for me.we know for a fact TROLLS exist. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 26 17:03:13 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by tunnelrat on Wed Jan 26 15:20:48 2011. Morris and his "friend" firmly believe that talking out of the left side of his ass is confirmation enough his word is truth enough.."If I say there's nothing there,then it is what it is..cause I SAY SO..,RIGHT jERSEY?" HE CAN SUCK LEMONS. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 26 17:05:18 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by tunnelrat on Wed Jan 26 15:17:31 2011. I don't see how that would have been possible, as the Dual contracts portion of the Fulton El was from Atlantic Ave to just before Franklin Ave, and that was already duplicated by the Fulton Subway as built. East of there between Atlantic and Hudson, the el was still unimproved el structure. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 26 17:06:36 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:22:05 2011. I would agree with you, except for the fact that they could have ramped up just after Franklin Ave and use the Fulton El from there to Atlantic AVe as that whole stretch of el was dual contracts, built exactly like the BRoadway El. But they duplicated that el. |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Wed Jan 26 17:06:42 2011, in response to Re: Interesting geo-oddity Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by GIS Man on Wed Jan 26 08:49:35 2011. All house on the west side of 78th Street/Sapphire Street south of Dumont Avenue ( Brooklyn/Queens border line) up to/north of the concrete retaining wall (of the recently built Loring Estates Developmen) south of Loring avenue/149th avenue although officially in Brooklyn, mail is delivered by the Howard Beach 11414 Post office whether a Brooklyn addrees or a Queens 78 street address is used by these homes. Most houses on the west side have taken a Queens hypenated 78th Street mailing address although if you went to NYCDOF those houses officially have a Brooklyn Sapphire Street address except for one which I beleive was an error. South of the retaining wall all new house built as part of the Loring Estates houses anmd further south addressed 400 thru 498 Sapphire Street & other new houses (built after about 1970)addressed 600 thru 666 Sapphire Street are delivered by the Brooklyn Post Office 11208. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 26 17:16:43 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 26 14:16:38 2011. about as confused as you are,Jersey.. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 26 17:19:03 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 26 14:16:38 2011. about as confused as you are,Jersey..how do you KNOW he wasn't? are you so sure? |
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Posted by Sum Joe Guy on Wed Jan 26 18:29:28 2011, in response to Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jan 21 07:17:27 2011. 1) The photos here (http://ltvsquad.com/Locations/urbanexploration.php?ID=197) show where we went that day via guided tour from the illustrious Mr. Tunnel Rat. I nor no one I know have ever claimed to have been in this station. if it is there, it is behind the wall - a wall which no one wants to touch (more on that later)2) I myself was always a skeptic of 76 street, but the signals facing walls, and cinderblocks clearly built after the original concrete tunnel is all very suggestive. The bench wall was clearly chipped out to make way for it. There is definitely a backfill behind the cinderblocks of an unknown amount of clean sand. Why this area was filled in, and when, is unknown. 3) Not sure if it has been mentioned, but the MTA did at least one short investigation of this mystery and found a water condition. If there's anything back there, it's probably a muddy watery wreck that would cost a prohibitive amount of money to really do much with. 3) The sewer lines at the intersection of 76th street and Pitkin consist of 2 12" pipes laid in 1925 (Pitkin) and 1979 (76th street). These would not be buried deep enough to effect any subway below. I'd be really surprised if we find out what is behind the wall anytime soon. This spot has been debated online for at least a decade and much longer amongst us underground enthusiasts. The cost to seriously investigate plus the MTA's perpetually horrible finances multiplied by the fact that if there's a tunnel decaying back there it will likely need work to stabilize, costing an undetermined amount of money no one has... yields a result of the powers that be really not wanting to know. Plausible deniability should the street become a sinkhole someday. I would say forget myth busters, forget anyone other than a rogue angry mob carrying sledge hammers and shovels ever finding out what is behind the wall. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 18:30:30 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 26 17:06:36 2011. They still would have been faced with the same problem of a structure that was unable to support the heavyweight steel cars of the day. also, there was no good place along Fulton St to build such a ramp until ENY where the city could have used Truxton park for a portal instead of just a space under which to build ENY station. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 26 18:37:18 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 26 17:00:00 2011. TERRapin
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jan 26 19:10:06 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by f179dj on Wed Jan 26 16:07:18 2011. You're 100% correct. FLB/Hollis is now a disaster area. But I lived a short distance away and my parents would take me to White Castle there for a treat. It was a small unit, perhaps just eight stools to sit down, one of WC's first, but always clean and with superb, friendly, fast service. Today's White Castle is a far cry from what they once were..... |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Jan 26 19:23:09 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by tunnelrat on Wed Jan 26 10:35:10 2011. "I think we should dig around 84 St too then. Maybe a station shell exists there as well.""no it doesn`t." You're no fun any more. |
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Posted by RoldanTTLB on Wed Jan 26 20:22:20 2011, in response to Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jan 21 07:17:27 2011. This is a killer thread for my first post to be in. That said, there appear to be subway vents all the way to Ruby St. in this 1951 aerial that are no longer there by the '90s. Make of that what you will, although I agree that a higher resolution photo would probably be worthwhile.http://gis.nyc.gov/doitt/nycitymap/?z=9&p=1022154,185785&c=GIS1951 Another tool might be to look at archives of plates in the area that might have information. It is also possible that the CofO for the public school might have some information about the contents of the basement. |
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Posted by f179dj on Wed Jan 26 20:22:57 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jan 26 19:10:06 2011. We used to shop at Dans (?) on Hollis Avenue at @ 201st Street; my PCP (Doctor in those days) was opposite St. Paschal Baylon, which had its own high school, where I took the Co-Ops. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Jan 26 20:44:31 2011, in response to Additional Aerial Photography, posted by RoldanTTLB on Wed Jan 26 20:22:20 2011. Welcome Aboard :) |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jan 26 20:48:23 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by f179dj on Wed Jan 26 20:22:57 2011. Wow! And I went to to St. Pascal's Grammar School! Graduated 1955. My brother attended there also and was in either the first or second graduating class, along with the girl I took to the high school prom (and with whom we're still great friends, more than 50 years later) at the High School (now a community center). Very small world! The high school was built with contributions from the parishioners, and my parents sacrificed to help. If they saw the neighborhood now and learned that the high school no longer was that, they'd turn over in their grave. I went to high school in Manhattan, using the Q3A bus and F/7 trains, then spent the afternoons carousing on the entire subway system. The rest is history..... |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 26 20:59:02 2011, in response to Additional Aerial Photography, posted by RoldanTTLB on Wed Jan 26 20:22:20 2011. Hmm...it's hard to tell. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 26 21:10:13 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Sum Joe Guy on Wed Jan 26 18:29:28 2011. Not sure if it has been mentioned, but the MTA did at least one short investigation of this mystery and found a water condition. If there's anything back there, it's probably a muddy watery wreck that would cost a prohibitive amount of money to really do much with.This isn't the first time I heard this. Can't remember where I heard this, but a year or two ago, a crew poked a hole in the concrete wall, and water leaked out. They poked a few holes, even going all the way to the top of the tunnel, and still more water leaked out. This would indicate that, at the very least, whatever is behind the wall is completely flooded. But I haven't had a chance to see this for myself, yet. |
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Posted by Sum Joe Guy on Wed Jan 26 21:39:03 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 26 21:10:13 2011. It definitely happened, photos were taken of the process. Origins of the water are unknown. I didn't hear what was discussed after the water condition discovery but I would imagine it became obvious that if there is a tunnel back there, it's going to need way more work than anyone is willing to even think about. |
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Posted by jabrams on Wed Jan 26 21:42:14 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Sum Joe Guy on Wed Jan 26 21:39:03 2011. You mean that cinderblock wall is actually waterproof. If there is water at the top, middle and bottom, wouldn't it just soak through all the joints (mortar), and the bottom? |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 26 22:17:23 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by jabrams on Wed Jan 26 21:42:14 2011. This occurred at the concrete wall, not the cinderblock wall. |
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Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street) |
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Posted by f179dj on Wed Jan 26 22:28:33 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jan 26 20:48:23 2011. "If they saw the neighborhood now and learned that the high school no longer was that, they'd turn over in their grave. I went to high school in Manhattan, using the Q3A bus and F/7 trains, then spent the afternoons carousing on the entire subway system. The rest is history..... "I drove the Q3A, 4, 4A, 5, 5A, 17, 31, 36, 44A, and 75. And maybe some numbers I left off (but never Vleigh Place or LN Parkway or the Q1). Then I went to the subway, FREG basically; sts. the J or B or D, or CC (on OT) |
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Posted by mike cruz on Wed Jan 26 22:41:28 2011, in response to Additional Aerial Photography, posted by RoldanTTLB on Wed Jan 26 20:22:20 2011. I don't see anything that resembles grates. |
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Posted by mike cruz on Wed Jan 26 22:53:00 2011, in response to Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street, posted by Sum Joe Guy on Wed Jan 26 21:39:03 2011. well don't forget right after the wall should be Pitkin ave seems to drop a few feet right in front of the school. |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jan 26 22:56:36 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by f179dj on Wed Jan 26 22:28:33 2011. I wonder then, if we ever crossed paths..... |
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Posted by mike cruz on Wed Jan 26 23:04:53 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:31:15 2011. remember the 7 line when it was first built on the concrete viaduct there were no houses for block or near any of the stations. the B.O.T basically made the neighborhoods. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 23:31:14 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by mike cruz on Wed Jan 26 23:04:53 2011. It wasn't the B of T back then but the PSC. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 23:34:16 2011, in response to Additional Aerial Photography, posted by RoldanTTLB on Wed Jan 26 20:22:20 2011. Where is Ruby St in relation to Grant Av, Eldert Lane and the other numbered streets in the area? |
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Posted by RoldanTTLB on Thu Jan 27 00:05:54 2011, in response to Re: Additional Aerial Photography, posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 23:34:16 2011. It's the street immediately west of 76th St. If you click to one of the newer overlays, street names are on the map as well and you can see how grates look and line up with newer images where they are clearer. |
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Posted by Randyo on Thu Jan 27 00:41:24 2011, in response to Re: Additional Aerial Photography, posted by RoldanTTLB on Thu Jan 27 00:05:54 2011. I looked on Google and what is interesting is that Ruby St and 75 St are shown as alternate names for the same street. The same is true of Pitkin Av which is called alternately Pitkin Av and Old South Rd in the same locations. That may date back to the time when Queens streets bore names instead of numbers. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Thu Jan 27 09:04:34 2011, in response to Re: Additional Aerial Photography, posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 23:34:16 2011. 3 blocks east of Eldert Lane. Eldert, Forbell, Drew, Ruby.Bob |
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