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Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street)

Posted by Randyo on Wed Jan 26 15:13:13 2011, in response to Re: 76th St area - Satellite (Re: Q About LTV Squad and 76th Street), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 25 20:49:20 2011.

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From the time line when Rocky Av opened (I believe 1936) until the subway was extended to ENY, there is an unusually long period of time since the war for the USA did not start until 1941. From some of the early proposals for IND expansion, it seems that when the IND was extended to Rocky Av the city did not yet have a definitive plan for exactly where they wanted the subway to go beyond that point. Otherwise the subway would have been built at least as far as ENY if not further. As I mentioned in another post, there were 3 possibilities that I am aware of for further expansion. One involved continuing straight out Fulton St under the present J Line structure. Another was down Liberty Av past ENY and the third was what was eventually built which is under Pitkin Av following almost exactly the route of the Fulton St El. All of those options included the takeover of the potion of the Fulton St El that the IND now operates. It seems to me that the decision to adopt the present route was not adopted until after unification in 1940 since a continuation down Fulton St would probably not have allowed for a transfer to the BMT Bway Jct complex. In order to provide for the transfer, the subway had to be angled slightly north under Truxton Park to place it close enough to the BMT to enable an easy transfer something that was not provided for with the BMT Fulton St El. Prior to unification, the city really didn't care about convenient inter company transfers but now that the entire system was under city operation, ease of connections between what were now divisions within a unified transit system was something to be sought. My theory is that the final routing was not established until unification in 1940 and construction east of Rocky Av was probably not started until then and before the rest of the line was completed, the war intervened. Had one of the aforementioned proposals been firmly agreed on, the IND would likely have been completed a lot farther east and a lot sooner than it eventually was probably a few years prior to unification.

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