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Posted by Fytton on Tue Sep 12 11:38:45 2006, in response to Re: London Overground, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Sep 12 11:09:35 2006. "What I meant to say was that the Broad St. - Richmond line, the Kentish Town(St. Pancras before that) - Barking line and that section between South Hampstead and Camden Rd. have been through changes(re-/electrification, change of terminus, closure) for mostly the benefit of other services that use sections of those lines and not for the local passengers who still have to deal with 2 to 4tph."O.K., I see your point. However, for historical reasons the NLL reached The City by a roundabout route and most of the outer London areas that it served weere better connected to the City by tube services - for example, Richmond by the District Line, Acton by the Piccadilly Line and Central Line, changing at Holborn, Willesden Jcn by the Bakerloo and Central, changing at Oxford Circus, and Hampstead, Kentish Town and Camden Town by the Northern Line via Bank route. Sending the NLL trains to Stratford via Hackney is in my opinion an improvement, providing a genuine additional service to Hackney, and it does provide access to Docklands via the main Docklands hub, Stratford. Gospel Oak-Barking *did* get screwed but I'd guess it was always a minority traffic flow. The main current problem is lack of a useful western terminus - Gospel Oak station is situated at nowhere. As you say, it used to go to Kentish Town, which would be much better, but the capacity at that station was needed for the Thameslink route. South Hampstead - Primrose Hill - Camden Road - Broad Street never saw much patronage even when it had a regular service. Its passengers preferred the more frequent Bakerloo or Northern Line services - Kilburn High Road station is near Kilburn Park (Bakerloo), South Hampstead is near Swiss Cottage (then Bakerloo), Primrose Hill near Chalk Farm (Northern), Camden Road near Camden Town (Northern). "And while I thought the loss of one-seat ride to Broad St. was bad, they now want to send you down to places like New Cross when the Docklands is finally becoming a useful destination." I think all us UK subchatters agree with you about the daft ELL extension. There is no proposal to take away the NLL service to Stratford, though. The argument would be, I suppose, that the ELL extension will provide connections to the DLR at Shadwell, and rather better ones to the Jubilee Line Extension at Canada Water. Come to that, Shoreditch High Street station on the ELL extension will be quite near the site of Braod Street! |
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