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Re: London Overground

Posted by Fytton on Wed Sep 13 06:30:52 2006, in response to Re: London Overground, posted by Rail Blue on Tue Sep 12 14:44:50 2006.

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"Barking - Blackhorse Road: Kentish Town
South Tottenham - Crouch Hill: Barbican
Upper Holloway - Barbican: Moorgate

No-one in their right minds would ride through from Barking to Moorgate"

Let's look at the Goblin line stations one by one and see if a Moorgate service would attract any passengers. North Londoners (unlike south Londoners) are habituated to use the tube to reach central London.

Gospel Oak is, as noted, situated nowhere in particular, but it is sort of walkable to Kentish Town tube station, with direct Northern Line services to Moorgate. Alternatively, you can get the more frequent NLL service to Camden Road, and then make the short walk to Camden Town tube for the Northern Line.

Upper Holloway is very close to Archway tube, and thus won't get any central London passengers whatever you do.

Crouch Hill isn't near any other station, but it is on the frequent Muswell Hill to Finsbury Park bus route - the self-same bus route that in the 1940s killed off Muswell Hill station. At Finsbury Park you can get a more frequent and direct train service to Moorgate via Essex Road.

Harringay Green Lanes is close to Harringay station, on the same WAGN line to Moorgate via Essex Road.

South Tottenham is close to Seven Sisters, with a direct service to Liverpool Street (not too far from Moorgate), or the Victoria Line to Highbury and Islington for a cross-platform connection for Moorgate via Essex Road.

Blackhorse Road is on Victoria Line, for that same connection to Moorgate at Highbury & Islington.

Walthamstow Queens Road is very close to Walthamstow Central - Victoria Line again, or direct trains to Liverpool Street.

Leyton Midland Road is not very close to Leyton Central Line station, but still I suspect Leytonians still wouldn't use it to reach the City. You can get direct buses to Stratford - the main transport hub of east london - from outside Leyton Midland Road station.

Leytonstone High Road is quite close to Leytonstone Central Line, from which you can get directly to Liverpool Street or Bank.

Wanstead Park is very close to Forest Gate for direct frequent trains to Liverpool Street.

Woodgrange Park is similarly close to Manor Park (both stations named after cemeteries, incidentally) for Liverpool Street trains.

Barking has fast c2c trains to Fenchurch Street - not, admittedly, desperately close to Moorgate, but still in the City - and Hammersmith & City line trains direct to Moorgate and Barbican.

I rest my case. No customers would be attracted. The Goblin line is a cross-town line and would be best integrated into the North London Lines system, as planned by Mayor Ken. He has to find the money to electrify it, though.



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