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Re: Fulton Street El Express Service

Posted by JOE @ NYCTMG - NYCMTS on Wed Feb 8 13:39:47 2006, in response to Re: Fulton Street El Express Service, posted by BMT Standard on Wed Feb 8 10:26:42 2006.

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Hello "BMT Std"

There were NO restrictions on ANY Manhattan (ie: ex-Manhattan Railway Co.) IRT Gate or MUDC cars of any classes (including ex subway Composites) for running thru the Sedgwick - Anderson E. 162nd street tunnel of the 9th Avenue EL. ALL of that equipment had "old elevated style" third rail "drop sled" shoes designed to run only on "elevated style position" 3rd rail (higher and closer to the running ral adjacent to it)

The ONLY RESTRICTION was for ANY rolling stock (being specifically steel IRT High-V and Low-V subway cars then) which had the subway type "paddle" thgird rail shoes....which contacted a subway position style 3rd rail which was lower to and fruther from its adjacent running rail. These subway type "paddle" shoes projected too long outboard to clear the very narrow 162nd street tunnel walls and would foul the wall just 1 1/2 past the 3rd rail head.

Thats WHY the High-V and later Low-V steel cars that operated on the later POLO GROUNDS Shuttle there from 1949-50 thru 1958, had THEIR own subway paddle shoes CUT BACK so as to reach and make conact only with the exisiting "elevated position" style 3rd rail. THATS WHY dual (parallel) subway and elevated style 3rd rails lasted on the Jerome Line Elevated from approx north of 161st ST Station to Woodlawn and into the Mosholu Yards until at least 1959-early 1960 by which time it was all removed.

I rode POLO Line a number of times since 1950, as well as Manhattan 3rd Ave El, and photographed both.

Regards - Joe
NYCMTS - NYCTMG

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