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Re: Fulton Street El Express Service

Posted by randyo on Tue Feb 14 19:48:50 2006, in response to Re: Fulton Street El Express Service, posted by JOE @ NYCTMG - NYCMTS on Tue Feb 14 07:46:39 2006.

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To clarify, I started working for NYCTA in 1966, first on the BMT and ultimately on the IRT. As late as 1976, when I went into scheduling, we had an ATD who had started working on the 2 Av el as a C/R in 1938. Starting at age 21 would have meant that he would have been born in in 1917 and when he retired in 1977, that would make him only 60 years old. There was one other IRT Co man who retired from the sched office just before I went in and by coincidence, he too was a 2 Av man. Most of the el men I knew were of course city hirees but I had the good fortune to work with some who did predate unification. Interestingly enough, when I started on the BMT divison, there were still quite a few pre city hirees among my co workers including a M/M who was a member of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and not TWU. Back to the IRT. The fact that these cars had a controller that was "Hi-V" in appearance seems to account for the confusion among these el men. With the possible exception of the flivvers, most IRT men I came across seemed to think that any car with a controller handle made of brass and the deadman's button in the middle of the knob was a Hi-V. Thank you again for your information.

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