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Posted by JOE @ NYCTMG - NYCMTS on Tue Feb 14 05:54:52 2006, in response to Re: Fulton Street El Express Service, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Feb 13 23:10:22 2006. Hello El Keeper Answer: (re: why no El to subway style 3rd rails conversions for Manhattan EL's) -- For the SAME reason the IRT never installed mainline signals and blocks on the local tracks of the 2, 3 6 9 Av. Els (except at ALL interlockings, ALL sharp, blind curves, and on express tracks for dual direction operation) -- from 1900 to June 1940... (a) MONEY $$$$ - or lack of it due the being stuck with the 5 cent fare from 1900 (or there about) thru June 1940, when City of NY bought the IRT and BMT systems - then both in virtual bankruptcy...! (b) Mayor Laguardia in the 1930's wanted the EL's in Manhattan (and ALL streetcars also) GONE by June 1960 by his enacted executive order...so no improvements or perservation maintenance (except as absolutely necessary and rudementary for maintaing day to day operations and safety priorites) were deemed necessary by the IRT to waste scarce revenue money on.... (c) The BMT had the same problem and conditions as A & B for their old "victorian era" EL's that the Little Flower, as La G was called, also wanted removed ASAP. (d) The costs to the IRT would have been to replace ALL 3rd Rail with new installations and /or reposition existing 3rd rail and install coverboards---- as well as outfit ALL the majority High-V Motor El cars, and ALL of the small class of Low-V Motor AND Trailer EL cars, with purchased brand NEW, subway type 3rd rail shoes...and labor expense for all involved in same for thousands of EL cars. For what gain in operation value, cost savings, or revenue producing gains !!?? (e) Tho wood EL car trains could run on subway line "EL" extensions (in Bronx, Queens, ie;), heavier STEEL IRT subway trains could not operate in revenue servce on any Manhattan Els due to structural weight restrictions on the Manhattan Els. I guess you now basically get the idea !! Regards - Joe Joseph Frank NYCTMG - NYCMTS |
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