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Re: Shuttle of New York City

Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Thu Aug 4 07:29:52 2016, in response to Re: Shuttle of New York City, posted by Bronx boy on Wed Aug 3 20:21:39 2016.

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Hello Nate !

A Very Interesting & funny story about the Deck Roof motor horse going "over the side" at Starlite Scrap Grounds.

Some technical questions however -- perhaps other present or former motormen here will jump in.

(a) -- Such a tipping over and falling over and away down the embankment may likely have derailed the truck at the south end of the 3rd (from north) Deck Roof car, but some how it didn't

(b) -- Such a tipping over and falling over away down the embankment did "break" the coupler on the car falling, however, why didn't it damage or break the coupler at the south end of the 3rd Motor Car ? There should have been some visible metal trauma to that coupler at the south end of the 3rd motor car.

(c) -- Such a tipping over and falling away down the embankment would have ripped out the air brake hoses and caused the train to dump - and how would it be able to recharge up with a "break" or open line / rupture in the air hose / brake system ? Would he not have to walk down the track to that 3rd remaining car to see what happened ?

(d) -- "If" the south end coupler at the south end of the 4th Deck Roof Hi-V Motor car "horse" that rolled over the embankment, had fitted and installed at that south end, a Van Dorn Link & Pin coupler (or adaptor of such) so as to be able to couple to EL Cars - all El cars having those Link & Pin couplers, didn't the other 3 deck Roof "horse" motor cars have standard tightlock IRT Couplers -- and if so, didn't anyone notice that the consist was now 3 cars and the now remaining south car did NOT have a link and pin coupler (or adaptor) !

When he (motorman) returned his now 3-car consist likely to E. 180th St yards that day for layup (perhaps stored in the Dyre Ave Line E. 180th St ex-NYW&B Express Station tracks) -- couldn't he see he was a car short ? Didn't anyone see it the next day or thereafter ?

Very strange, heh ! But interesting story !

regards - Joe F



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