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Re: Shuttle of New York City

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Aug 6 00:36:10 2016, in response to Re: Shuttle of New York City, posted by Bronx boy on Fri Aug 5 21:38:45 2016.

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Thank you for taking the time to post such an interesting and detailed account of preservation (and almost preservation) history. I always enjoy reading yours and Joe Frank's posts - I copy and paste them into Word docs to be put into folders - such valuable posts about IRT history need to be saved as well.

I have seen 3662 at Branford during the 90s, but have never ridden it when it was out for operation.

I visited Branford for the first time in 1966 or '67 with my family. The car was on the siding next to the main museum area, and was locked up. I climbed up on one end to peer in. The interior wasn't restored yet, and was being used for storage.. One of its storm door windows was missing and covered over with some kind of white cardboard. I took the best 3/4 view I could manage, the storm door without the window being the one that was visible.

I found 3352 at Seashore, deep in one of their barns (during the mid 90s). It looked like its interior still needed restoration from the floor up. I don't know anything about further reostoration progress. It's too bad the center doors were removed as an attempt to bring it back to 1904 condition. The car really only operated this way for 3 or 4 years before its center door was installed, and that's the way it appeared for the remainder of its life. Doing that to this car also lost to preservation, the IRT's own in-house work to upgrade this car by installin the center door: the rebuilding of passenge windows, and most importantly, the earliest automatic door equipment operated by compressed air.

Both cars should come home, to be fully restored and operational at CI and become part of the museum fleet - the oldest operational first steel subway cars anywhere!
And not to forget the Mineola either.

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