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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 17:19:26 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 18 14:19:11 2012.

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As usual, he can't answer once he realizes he's wrong.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 17:20:15 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 18 14:12:43 2012.

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Wrong again. You are clueless on this subject.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 17:20:25 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 14:00:52 2012.

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Bump.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 17:21:06 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 18 14:34:41 2012.

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So pwn3d!!!!

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 17:21:20 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 18 14:14:34 2012.

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Great post.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 17:22:39 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 18 16:10:50 2012.

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Answer the question.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 17:23:54 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 18 15:16:08 2012.

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Huh? Are you following along at all?

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 17:24:46 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 18 16:11:51 2012.

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No, you would discriminate. I knew you wouldn't be able to respond honestly. You are intellectually dishonest.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 17:40:55 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 15:29:16 2012.

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::shrug:: mashie niblick, I guess :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 18:01:43 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jul 18 16:25:50 2012.

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What's wrong with teaching kids about masturbation? It's normal behavior and might help stave off teen sex. I'm not saying teach them how, but just tell them that it's normal.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 18:10:10 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 14:49:12 2012.

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You can discriminate against anyone you want within the law of course (housing/employment, etc) but it may come at the expense of your own social acceptance. One would have to balance that all out. Of course if murderers and molestors shunned me, I'd be ok with it :)

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 18:13:59 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 18:01:43 2012.

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Ehh some kids are slow learners; give them homework assignments they can do with their parents.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 18 18:15:46 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jul 18 16:25:50 2012.

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Well ... thanks to uptight 40-something parents, most of them are doing it wrong anyway. And the pharmaceutical industry sure ain't helping matters ...



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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 18:22:08 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 18 18:15:46 2012.

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If that doesn't work, might be time to grab a tube of



your pal,
Hans Jobb

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 18 18:23:54 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 18:22:08 2012.

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And remember the rules ... see your resident advisor if you can't read ...



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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jul 18 18:34:43 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 13:08:25 2012.

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"Because teaching things like this inevitably leads to the beating and killing of LGBT people."

"We teach our members to treat those with different opinions with courtesy and respect at all times and to adamantly oppose the mistreatment of others based on any perceived difference, including sexual orientation," Smith told the Daily News in an email. "The organization requests the same courtesy be extended in return."


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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 18:35:53 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 18 16:02:49 2012.

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You sure about that?

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 18:45:29 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 15:20:09 2012.

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But then, you're judging the BSA's policies by the length of your own shadow. Others may respond differently towards gays based on the example set by Scouting.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 18 18:49:59 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 17:15:21 2012.

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You have a choice about behavior, but not one's sexual preference. That's not a behavior issue.

Pursuing sexual activity with a consenting adult is controllable behavior. Physical attributes one finds attractive are controllable behavior. being attracted to one's own gender is not. That is a biological issue.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 18:51:23 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 18:45:29 2012.

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He's giving his opinion on it nothing more I can see that how you can disagree with it. I was never a member of the Boy Scouts but I can't see their actions making a bunch of folks thinking or doing these actions you are saying.. Better yet what makes you think it's been that way already? Just saying.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 18:52:59 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 18 18:49:59 2012.

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It's always about a choice I disagree strongly..,

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 18:58:00 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 18:52:59 2012.

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Darn silly me forgot to add..

Explain the ones who marry have children then.



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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 19:07:25 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 16:59:00 2012.

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It IS when you can't see..or understand, the REASONS for it.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 19:09:34 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 18 13:07:03 2012.

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is 18,000 too much for a Chevy Volt?

My offer was 16.5.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 19:18:05 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Jul 18 14:23:22 2012.

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perhaps not..but the rule for PRIVATE CLUBS may not apply to public clubs..
it may not be right...but until someone steps up and challenges...it is what it is.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 19:22:00 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 18 18:49:59 2012.

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some might say its more of a spiritual issue.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 19:31:14 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 19:18:05 2012.

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Agreed..

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 19:37:59 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:56:44 2012.

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Didn't think so.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 19:46:38 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 15:18:36 2012.

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+1

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 19:49:12 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 18 11:25:09 2012.

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you call this progress?
When folks who dont agree with this "movement" are called bigots..and whatever other "i hate you cause you dont agree with my sexuality"blah blah blah..hangups..

I RESPECT the scouts..and their choice.
EVEN THOUGH this the new in thing...some people still want their children's exposure to "the life" limited..
its their choice..

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 19:49:17 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 18:10:10 2012.

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Obviously, the Boy Scouts of America have looked at the pros and cons and have made the decision that they have. Probably not the right one but we in the east are not really middle America either.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 19:49:29 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 18:35:53 2012.

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What do you think? Seriously, sometimes you're just as dumb as he is.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 19:54:37 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 18:45:29 2012.

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I've not been in a uniform for many years but the Scouts were always taught tolerance towards others. If the official policy has not changed there is no reason to assume that the underlying message has not changed either. That's not to say that individuals do not get a different message at home. Then again, that would have nothing to do with the scouts then.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 19:54:44 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 15:20:09 2012.

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You too,huh?
My mom was a den mother...I was a "cub scout"..moved up to Boys Scouts.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jul 18 20:02:07 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 19:18:05 2012.

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ON TOPIC ALERT.
https://www.uprr.com/newsinfo/releases/community/2010/0331_boyscouts.shtml

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jul 18 20:02:08 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 19:18:05 2012.

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ON TOPIC ALERT.
https://www.uprr.com/newsinfo/releases/community/2010/0331_boyscouts.shtml

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 20:02:17 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 13:08:25 2012.

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oh stop it...

they do not teach hate..but you wont accept that since they wont let you play in their sandbox...

You CANNOT FORCE YOUR VALUES on someone...especially since they are a PRIVATELY OPERATED ORGANIZATION..

Get over it..and move on to the next crusade..

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:02:18 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 19:54:44 2012.

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Yup. I was the founding scoutmaster of troop 794 in Queens. We began meeting in a room donated by Long Island Jewish Hospital. We eventually moved to one of Lindsay's community City Halls on 188th St. and Union Tpke. The mayor made the space available so the scouts would not have to meet in a place where many of them already spent too much time already.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 20:05:13 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:02:18 2012.

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Wow Cool....

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 20:05:15 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:02:18 2012.

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our chapter operated out of the Salvation Army on Bushwick Avenue.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 20:09:56 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jul 18 18:34:43 2012.

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EXCEPT when an openly gay teen or adult tries to join Scouting. Then they are treated as unfit and unacceptable for membership.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:10:40 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 20:02:17 2012.

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Agreement

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 20:11:57 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 20:09:56 2012.

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To be honest why would an openly gay person want to join the Scouts?

Knowing their "stance"

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:13:08 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 20:09:56 2012.

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I don't know that that's true. I think individual parents might have a problem with it but I don't know that the scouts would bar membership as long as there was no attempt at proselytizing.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 20:15:24 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 18:52:59 2012.

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When did you "choose" to be straight, Robert? You can choose whether or not to be in the closet, but sexual orientation is something you ARE. You can no more "choose" that, than you can choose your skin color.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:16:10 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 20:11:57 2012.

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Perhaps because sexuality of any type is not part of scouting. You could be gay or straight and enjoy the camping, hiking, athletics and other activities that scouting offers.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:19:59 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 20:15:24 2012.

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But gay or straight in scouting is a non-issue since sexual activity is not part of scouting.

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 20:23:51 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:16:10 2012.

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Yes that i can understand but if you know they wont allow you why even bother?

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 20:26:22 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 20:23:51 2012.

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My thought was that since you do not declare your sexuality when you join the scouts, why would they stop you?

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Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 18 20:27:11 2012, in response to Re: NO GAYS in the Boy Scouts was confirmed this past Tuesday, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 20:15:24 2012.

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Gee great way to miss my point...

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