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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jun 4 21:34:54 2012, in response to Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 3 21:17:47 2012.

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I call shenanigans. I want to see proof of Obama's 1% to charity!

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 21:38:26 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 21:32:46 2012.

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That's right. Many if not all the companies Bain tossed WERE profitable, steady employers that provided well for the community, and kept up with technologies. Bain came in with their greed, assaults the company with debt and causes them to fall apart. No need for that.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 21:43:40 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jun 4 20:14:30 2012.

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So what? That's not illegal.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 21:44:54 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 21:30:09 2012.

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For the 2nd time tonight I will violate my own rule. When I was was moved from Concourse shop in 1999 with the R-68s at well over 400,000 miles that was a management decision based on the overall fleet performance and aligning managers who were being considered for promotion. I was offered Pitkin, East NY or Jamaica. I chose what I did because I wanted a crack at the 44s where no one else had succeeded. I succeeded. I assure you that had I stayed, I would have had another promotion to General Superintendent based partially on that success and the fact that during my tenure, my shop went nearly 2 years without a lost time accident and had one of the highest employee availabilities in the division.

Whatever else you and the Bim have concocted in those under-developed organs you call brains, I was highly accomplished and very highly regarded in my field. Much like the other shit you talk, you can't back up your claims and those who have been out to my locations can attest to my technical expertise and the quality of the management style that I employed. Now, if you have anything in the way of documented proof to the contrary, let's post it with your real name.


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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 21:45:01 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 21:38:26 2012.

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Being "profitable enough" is not enough. MAXIMIZATION is the game.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 21:45:43 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 21:18:47 2012.

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Solyndra is a story about capitalism in earnest... people want the cheaper product which came from china and it cost US jobs. Also it was 535 million and 1100 jobs, stop inflating numbers and stick to the real numbers. But hey thats capitalism right? You know, providing the cheaper "better" product. *thumbs up* Survival of the fittest...

So why are you complaining about unemployment #s again?

Tax Credits.... aren't we in debt? If there is a tax cut that means someone else is going to pay for it. So why am I the TAXPAYER going to pay for a company's tax break?

So you complain about unemployment then the debt... sorry Train Dude you can't have your cake and eat it too. Welcome to the real world... its nice to meet you. LOL....

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 21:46:53 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 21:44:54 2012.

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One correction - I was moved from Concourse in 2005. I went there in 1999 while the R-68s were running at about 50,000 miles MDBF

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 21:47:18 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 21:44:54 2012.

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Sadly the R68 are going down faster than Monica on Bill. 150,000MDBF with trains carrying dead motors. It's so sad to see the 68s in such bad shape.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 21:51:37 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 21:43:40 2012.

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What's illegal and what's right are very different. When one seeks high office like Willard is, it behooves him to do the right thing. That he hasn't is suspect.

Remember the kerfuffle over Cheney's money? Elected officials must place their assets in blind trusts. President Obama did. How is Willard going to comply with that law?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 21:55:03 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 21:45:01 2012.

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That's where reason and greed part ways. That is the tipping point of capitalism.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 21:56:00 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 21:47:18 2012.

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Yeah, those 44's turned out real good too. LOL

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 21:57:41 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 21:56:00 2012.

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Well I'm talking about the condition of the 68s now, not while TD was running CCYD. lol

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:01:21 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 21:45:43 2012.

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Perhaps the subtleties are lost on you, Chris but saving jobs and creating jobs are not the same thing. They are not mutually exclusive either. o'bummer has failed to create an environment where businesses want to invest so jobs are not being created. Instead of giving tax credits for companies that sell solar equipment or electric cars, he chooses two companies that fail. $593 million to Solyndra and $193 to Fisker to build Electric cars in the USA. How many jobs did he create for the $786 million taxpayer dollars? How does a net loss of over 1700 jobs sound? Now as a little bridge to Bain Capital, answer me one question - well two really.

1) How much did we give to General Motors that still has not been paid off?
2) How many new jobs did GM create to become more profitable - more accurately, how many jobs did GM have to cut in 2010 and 2011?

Bain Capital is not about creating jobs. Bain is about saving companies and maximizing returns for investors. That's called "CAPITALISM". It's not a dirty word and until we elected the current mope, it was actually respectable. When Bain saved companies, it saved jobs. That's not the same as creating them but just as important. When Bethlehem Steel lost the war with Japan and Korea, how many jobs were lost. Wouldn't it have been far better if a company like Bain came in and streamlined Bethlehem Steel and was able to save half of the jobs that were lost? Certainly, the unions weren't interested in trying. So tell me what Bain did that was so bad? Were they not entitled to make a profit. That's what they were in business for. If you owned stock in Bain, or if your 401K was invested there, I'm certain that you'd want them to make every nickel that they could. So to repeat what you said, Chris - "welcome to the real world!"

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 22:02:05 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 21:57:41 2012.

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I'm just returning his pokes in the eye ... with the same level of care as he is. I let him get ten licks in for every one I return. But given his own back-patting, it is amusing to see his proud work getting scrapped. From how he holds himself out as master of his domain, you'd think his work would outlive the 32's. :)

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 22:05:13 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:01:21 2012.

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Wait ... wut? Obama refused to extend the debt limit and dragged this country down from its AAA rating? Obama is responsible for reneging on that budget deal from the group of six?

All business wants is to know how much money they need to spend next year ... from that we can finally do our budgets and figure out how much is left over to expand and hire. But of course to your clowns, it's more important to destroy America because it voted wrong and so NOBODY can make any plans because we're about to go into taxmageddon because your guys couldn't even keep to their own deal.

I tell ya, Obama is the worst speaker of the house EVAR!

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:09:40 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 21:47:18 2012.

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Well, we had a really great team back then. The Superintendent of those days is now an Assistant Chief and two of the 3 deputies were promoted and given their own shops based on those accomplishments. By the way, one of the TWU Vice Presidents worked for me back then too (you know who I mean, I'm sure).

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 22:16:06 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:01:21 2012.

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If Bain Capital isn't about creating jobs (a point of agreement, BTW) why is Willard claiming his experience there makes him more qualified, on the basis of that experience, to create jobs for all Americans, including those he doesn't like? He has not come out saying he supports equal pay for equal work. That demonstrates he is NOT interested in working to provide jobs for ALL Americans (the President has), as by inference, he thinks women are second class citizens not entitled to equal pay. Otherwise he would be pressing for, through his campaign rhetoric, the initiatives currently in consideration in Congress.

Sorry to say, your dog doesn't hunt. Barely gnaws at yer toenails.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 22:18:50 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Rockparkman on Mon Jun 4 15:28:01 2012.

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Try getting in touch with your rational side every now and then. It's getting rusty from lack of use.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 22:19:57 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:01:21 2012.

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Don't worry I'll respond and I promise it will be a long through explanation of why everything you just said is wrong, and all I have to do is point to wall street to shoot down everything you've said. But I have to go to bed but I'll leave you with this simple point.

What the government did is what happens everyday on wall street, people invest in companies, sometimes the companies do well, sometimes they don't. Thats apart of capitalism... something you haven't quite understood yet. Note I never said anything about the Bain Corporation but I'm simply making the point that when companies layoff jobs, or ship jobs to other nations you can't then just turn around and say "high unemployment"

Then you got the Bush Tax Cuts extended on the premise that the wealthy would INVEST in companies and startups... I haven't seen it happen. Then you want tax credits when the country is in debt, if you really want to think about a tax break for a company is basically the government making a bet that by giving the company a tax break that they'll do well, hire people and they'll make the money back on the payroll. That doesn't always happen now does it?

But its okay for the tax break and the government making a bet but if the government directly gives money to try to create jobs directly its bad.

So tell me how CAPITALISM WORKS again, because it seems like you know SOOOOOO much more than I do.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 22:23:13 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 22:18:50 2012.

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Fact is, he's right. Staples pays 20% less than it competitors for all in-store personell.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:23:25 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 22:16:06 2012.

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Perhaps because his entire life hasn't been about Bain Capital. Certainly he's saved jobs at Bain and perhaps Bain itself hired people. Perhaps though as Governor of Massachusetts he created an environment in which businesses grew. BUT to turn your own question around on you, what can o'bummer point to as a success in creating jobs? After all, the unemployment rate has been far higher since he took office. Perhaps you can document a few successes other than Solyndra.

Sorry to say, your dog doesn't hunt. Just eats and sleeps and shits

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:24:47 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 22:23:13 2012.

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Proof?

I've been hearing that shit about Walmart from the left forever and the fact is that they pay more than their competitors.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:32:39 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 22:19:57 2012.

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I'm really not following what you are saying. Where does what you said contradict anything I said about Bain Capital, which was what we were discussing?

As for the BUSH tax cuts, 2 misconceptions.

1) If the tax cuts were a bad idea, then why did o'bummer embrace them and extend them? If he's a leader and he felt that they were ill-advised, he should have come out and said that he was not extending the BUSH TAX CUTS and this is why.

2) The payroll tax was targeted at the middle class. Since FICA is capped at $106,800 this hardly would have affected those 1%ers anyway but did put a fair chunk of change into the hands of the middle class. Was that a bad thing. Did you bank yours or spend it?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 22:32:41 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 13:27:46 2012.

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Let's examine some facts.

Before Staples opened its first office-supply store, the company's founder, Thomas G. Stemberg, went to Bain for help. Stemberg told Romney that companies were spending more on office supplies than they thought. Romney had his associates do a survey of office managers, then checked the figures against invoices, and found that Stemberg was right. Romney agreed to put $600,000 of Bain Capital money into the new venture, and within a few years, he had made back eight times his money while contributing to the launch of a successful national company.

Romney and Co. were "among a handful of venture-capital firms that helped found the Sports Authority" by forking over much-needed cash in exchange for a minority stake, says The Washington Post. At the time, Sports Authority had fewer than 10 stores, and was hungry for money to fuel its expansion. By the time Romney left Bain, Sports Authority had exploded, and employed nearly 14,000 people across the country.

Romney's critics have focused on Bain's investment in a now-defunct steel firm, GS Technologies, as the worst kind of private-equity investment. But Bain's "more successful involvement" in another steel company, Steel Dynamics, has gone largely overlooked. The steel industry was hardly a hot startup market in 1994, but Bain saw potential in the company's "mini-mill" as a way to lower costs. Bain invested $18 million, giving others confidence to invest and helping the company reach the $80 million in seed money it needed to get going. Bain sold its stake in 1999 for $104 million, and Steel Dynamics (SDI) has since grown to become the fifth-largest U.S. producer of carbon-steel products.

Romney should be eager to talk about Bain and not just because of the firm's 80 percent success rate in driving up revenue at the companies it acquires. Romney should be most proud of his own success in building Bain Capital from scratch into a successful organization with a great reputation that met a significant payroll and provided a service on which the economy absolutely depends. Over 28 years, the firm has boosted income at the companies it backed by $105 billion, creating thousands upon thousands of jobs. To attack Bain, you have to attack all of private equity.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 22:33:43 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:23:25 2012.

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How many jobs has Romney created?

Under his watch, Massachussetts did poorly in that arena.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:34:13 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 22:32:41 2012.

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Thank you. Very eloquently explained (bookmarked)

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by J trainloco on Mon Jun 4 22:34:18 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:01:21 2012.

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Bain Capital is not about creating jobs. Bain is about saving companies and maximizing returns for investors.

Yes, I don't agree and definitely yes. Bain capital is a company that is trying to make itself money. Whoever is in charge of Bain capital is responsible for that ONLY, not creating jobs, not saving companies, not any of that. They're in it to produce returns for their investors, period. Whether or not Bain created jobs is irrelevant. I might disagree with the methods, but the rules of the game let companies like Bain do this all the time.

Romney was successful in achieving his goal at Bain. Why would you not want that guy working for you? If you wanted to protect your company from guys like Romney, wouldn't it help to have a guy like Romney working for you?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:34:52 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 22:33:43 2012.

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I don't know but probably more than o'bummer has created as president.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 22:46:45 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:23:25 2012.

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Massachusetts was 47th in job growth during Willard's run as governor.

Who is o'bummer?

The President kept much of the existing jobs in the upper Midwest, those connected to the auto industry, existing, as Willard wouldn't have ....read his tome "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt"? so, we're talking a million just there.....

You're retired, WTF do you care about unemployment?

I don't own a dog. You do. "Woof".

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by J trainloco on Mon Jun 4 22:47:38 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 21:55:03 2012.

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It's the inherent problem with capitalism and the continued financialization of the economy.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 22:51:16 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:34:52 2012.

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Willard did somewhere in the mid 5 figures, IIRC.

For contrast, the last President that showed a net positive job creation record did 20 million. That wasn't bush.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:54:22 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 22:46:45 2012.

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"You're retired, WTF do you care about unemployment?"

Yes, I can see your point. But then again - you have a job, Why should you care about unemployment? You can be satisfied with o'bummer's abysmal performance. It doesn't affect you. But unlike you I have a daughter who will be working for several more years. I care about unemployment. And Unlike you, I have grand children who range in age from 20 to 7. Eventually, they will complete their education and also enter the job market. I care about unemployment. I also have friends who have children and grand children. We all care about unemployment. I care about my friend from Colonie who's son got married last year and had a baby born 5 months premature after he lost his Architect job. I care about unemployment. Now you were saying?


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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 22:54:24 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 22:32:41 2012.

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Not that I don't believe you but I'd like to see the source of those facts, Dave.

In searching Google for what you posted, I found a 2002 article co-written by Tom Sternberg that doesn't mention Bain Capital or Mitt Romney.. One would think the 2 accounts of Staples beginning would be the same no?

Things that make you go 'hmmmmm'.

your pal,
fred



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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 22:54:28 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:24:47 2012.

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Walmart just rescinded healthcare insurance for part timers and are going to do the same in a few months for hourly full timers as well. Target pays part timers better, almost a dollar more to start.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 22:55:30 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:24:47 2012.

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Walmart isn't Staples.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 22:55:45 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:34:52 2012.

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Probably?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:57:07 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 22:55:45 2012.

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okay definitely. I really have not researched it but I'd guess our president is still in negative territory.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 22:57:29 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 22:32:39 2012.

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Cause Congress was stalling the government, and by extending it, when it comes time to extend it before it dies on December 31st of this year theres not a damn thing that congress can do to stop it from expiring if Obama loses the election because with Obama being a lame duck he can fuck over the Republicans hard by letting all the tax breaks expire and then the automatic spending cuts kick in. So that by 2022 that debt will go from 75% to 62% in other words the national debt would decrease significantly. In other words if you vote Obama out of office, you let Obama detonate his nuke which leaves Republicans fucked with a fiscal policy they wanted that leaves them locked unless they want to spend and tax cut which INCREASES the debt.

Now you know why Obama let the tax cuts continue because in the end, it shows that the wealthy wont invest in the US and that if he loses the election he still wins.

How's that? Did you like that? Vote Obama out of office and you get the biggest tax increase and the deepest budget cuts in US history. Everything that you want... oh yeah and the US growth stops immediately :)

Enjoy the nuke.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 22:57:30 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 18:11:27 2012.

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I don't believe that religious leaders should be in government all.

John Danforth is and was a highly respected Senator and diplomat. He's also an ordained Episcopal priest. Did you have a problem with Danforth being in government?

The Rev. Robert Drinan represented Massachusetts in the House for 10 years. He became the first member of Congress to call for the impeachment of Richard Nixon. Decades later, he testified against the impeachment of President Bill Clinton. Did you have a problem with Drinan being in government?

William Gray was an influential member of the House in the 1980s, serving as the Majority Whip until his resignation to serve as President of the United Negro College Fund. As an African-American, he was the fourth highest ranking member of the House at the time of his resignation and a minister in Philadelphia. Did you have a problem with Gray being in government?

Ron Lewis was a Republican member of the House from 1994–2009, representing the 2nd Congressional District of Kentucky. He also was ordained as a Southern Baptist minister. Did you have a problem with Lewis being in government?

Emanuel Cleaver II is a United Methodist pastor and the U.S. Representative for Missouri's 5th congressional district, serving since 2005. He is a member of the Democratic Party, and in January 2010 became chair of the Congressional Black Caucus. Do you have a problem with Cleaver being in government?

Rev. Dr. Robert William Edgar served as a Democratic member of the House from 1975 to 1987, representing the 7th district of Pennsylvania. He was ordained a minister after graduating with a master of divinity degree. Did you have a problem with Edgar being in government?

You have a "problem" with Mitt Romney being in government because he represents everything you oppose, right or wrong. Why should it matter that he's a religious leader?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 23:00:07 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 22:54:28 2012.

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You knew that this was going to be a consequence of obummercare. Why are you so surprised? Obummercare was paying companies not to cancel their health coverage for their employees. And how many companies actually offer healthcare to part timers? That evil enemy of all liberals (walmart) did.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 23:00:48 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 22:54:28 2012.

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You knew that this was going to be a consequence of obummercare. Why are you so surprised? Obummercare was paying companies not to cancel their health coverage for their employees. And how many companies actually offer healthcare to part timers? That evil enemy of all liberals (walmart) did. But once again you are changing the subject. We were talking about salaries, were we not?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 23:05:14 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 22:32:41 2012.

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I don't believe a word of that as there's no attribution.



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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 23:05:45 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 22:57:29 2012.

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I disagree with your analysis but you never did answer my question. Did you spend your payroll tax cut or did you save it?

By the way, your "scorched earth scenario" if o'bummer loses the election is very telling of the character of the man. He'd fuck the entire country to get even for not electing him - including the millions who did vote for him. Is that the character of the man that you support for president? DO you really want such a hateful, vengeful person?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 23:07:35 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 23:05:14 2012.

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We are still waiting for your attribution for the claims that you made about BMW moving to Detroit because the people in South Carolina are untrainable. As I recall - I've made this request several times before.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 23:08:44 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 23:07:35 2012.

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QED

Two can play that game. Get it...you are NOT getting an answer.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 4 23:10:25 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by J trainloco on Mon Jun 4 22:34:18 2012.

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Little by little you will make your way back to OT for election season. I can't wait.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 23:11:00 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 23:00:48 2012.

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Walmart starts part timers at .05 above minimum wage. Target starts part timers at .50 to 1.00 over minimum depending on experience. Tell me who pays better mathboy.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 23:11:21 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 23:08:44 2012.

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The fact is that I knew you made that up and couldn't document it. It was evident from the moment that you posted it and I posted the proof that you were wrong. I'm still going to remind you whenever its appropriate.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 23:12:33 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 22:54:24 2012.

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From Wikipedia:

"Bain Capital is a Boston-headquartered alternative asset management and financial services company that specializes in private equity, venture capital, credit and public market investments. Bain invests across a broad range of industry sectors and geographic regions. As of the beginning of 2012, the firm manages approximately $66 billion of investor capital across its various investment platforms.

The firm was founded in 1984 by partners from the consulting firm Bain & Company. Since inception it has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including such notable companies as AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel."

Wan;t hard to find, Fred.


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Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 23:12:47 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 22:54:24 2012.

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From Wikipedia:

"Bain Capital is a Boston-headquartered alternative asset management and financial services company that specializes in private equity, venture capital, credit and public market investments. Bain invests across a broad range of industry sectors and geographic regions. As of the beginning of 2012, the firm manages approximately $66 billion of investor capital across its various investment platforms.

The firm was founded in 1984 by partners from the consulting firm Bain & Company. Since inception it has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including such notable companies as AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel."

Wasn't hard to find, Fred.


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