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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 3 23:51:32 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 3 23:42:02 2012.

Because they'd then have the responsibility of upholding 613 instead of just 7 commandments.

But my disdain for missionary work is as a freethinker and not as a Jew.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 3 23:51:41 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 3 23:47:43 2012.

they are not Jewish.

Sacha Baron Cohen is. He recruited one lady.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 06:30:12 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 3 23:47:43 2012.

Those aren't Jews anymore, they became "Christians". In quotes of course, but still not Jews either.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 06:31:37 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 3 23:42:02 2012.

The only time I have ever seen it is when someone is about to marry. I know a guy who converted to Judaism because he was marrying a Jewish girl. It was a long process.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 06:33:18 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 3 22:39:21 2012.

LOL!!!!!
And there's no stipulation anywhere that even a Priest or Catholic Bishop run for president. I doubt they would win, but there's no laws against it. Some of the religions may have rules against it, but that's not relevant to the Constitution.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 06:34:36 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 06:33:18 2012.

Who said there were laws against it? Oh right ... I'm not permitted to have ANY opinion other than Train Dick's ... I sit corrected then.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 06:40:04 2012, in response to Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 3 21:17:47 2012.

Well then ... let's see what Romney's selling, shall we?



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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 06:40:12 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 06:34:36 2012.

Oh yes, you are the most objective about people havi9ng opinions other than yours. Rolls eyes.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 06:42:12 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 06:40:12 2012.

I don't CARE what other people's opinions are, but I'm going to state mine. THIW :)

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 08:55:10 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 3 22:52:22 2012.

What about a religious leader in Congress?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:28:45 2012, in response to Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 3 21:17:47 2012.

You'd make a good b-tard.



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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:34:01 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jun 3 21:53:15 2012.

He DID pass the Michigan Bar.

He DID help get Staples off the ground.

He DID accept no salary as chairman of the Salt Lake City Games.

The rest I will have to verify independently.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 12:36:37 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 06:42:12 2012.

That's fine. But you are complaining about people complaining when you are voicing your opinion, yet you are one of the worst offenders of what you just accused.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 4 12:37:33 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:34:01 2012.

He DID buy out numerous healthy businesses while he was at Bain Capital, run them into the ground, cause lives and careers to be destroyed, all for his personal enrichment.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:39:49 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 4 12:37:33 2012.

Village Voice. The WND of the left.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:42:47 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 3 23:19:57 2012.

14% in 2010. So that's been debunked.

I am pretty sure the President knows all eyes will be on his tax return, and will be sure to give a politically beneficial amount to charity.



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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 12:43:24 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:34:01 2012.

There is no question that at least some of those facts are accurate, probably most of them. My only contention is the calculation of how many years he worked without pay as some of those events likely overlap and are not "full time."

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 12:44:45 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:42:47 2012.

Where did the other 4% go? To some organization that may actually help someone regardless of their religious affiliation and adherence to its dogma?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 12:47:16 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:42:47 2012.

The fact that a richer person gives a higher percentage of his income to charity just proves my continual point about the marginal utility of income.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:47:18 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 12:44:45 2012.



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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 4 12:48:42 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 06:33:18 2012.

There is something discomforting about a member of senior management of a church running for President.

When JFK ran for President, he could rightly say that American principles were supreme in his decisions, not Catholic ones, if there was a conflict.

But suppose Cardinal Dolan ran for President? He's an American, but he's also made a lifelong commitment to a foreign organization whose goals may conflict with the goals of the US. It's very different from being in senior management of a corporation. When you quit your job in the corporation, you have no more obligations to them. But Cardinal Dolan can never relinquish his obligations to the Catholic Church.

Dolan has the legal right to run for President. But it sure would raise questions if he did.


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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 12:52:40 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 4 12:37:33 2012.

Great article. Thanks. Keeper.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jun 4 12:58:48 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:39:49 2012.

The Key is was it TRUE?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 13:10:15 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 4 12:48:42 2012.

That's the first reason Willard should be disqualified in every voter's mind, as there is no law against clergy running for and holding office. Would he attempt or permit religious dogma to be legislated? He has already said he would.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 13:13:13 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 4 12:37:33 2012.

He did NOT run them into the ground. Those things happened after he left. Thanks for the usual incorrect leftist propaganda though.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 13:13:55 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 12:52:40 2012.

I know that hard left extremists as yourself are comforted about things you want to hear, whether accurate or not. Leftists find comfort in such things.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 4 13:16:55 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 13:13:13 2012.

Did you read the linked article?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 13:27:46 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 13:13:55 2012.

Facts are facts, they don't possess ideologies. Willard ran as many companies into the ground as he saved, lost as many jobs as he made and overall was a total wash aside from his profit. That he did well with. He has to this day not one iota of consideration for the consequences of his actions on anyone he harmed.Kind of strange behavior from someone who was also serving as LDS clergy at the time.

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Re: Some fats about Mitt Romney

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 4 15:21:38 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:28:45 2012.

He does it on Subchat as well though, which puts him into testudine territory . . .

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Jun 4 15:28:01 2012, in response to Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 3 21:17:47 2012.

Yeah, and Staples put a shitload of TRUE small businesses under and how many FAMILY WAGE jobs did Bain create? ZERO. If I had a MACHO NAZI kid like you, I'd plant some drugs on him and turn him in.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Rockparkman on Mon Jun 4 15:37:54 2012, in response to Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 3 21:17:47 2012.

Oh, and one more thing ASSHOLE, wait 'til you see what that MORMON SCUMBAG has in store for the Post Office. you should be kicked out of the NALC for the pro NAZI statements you make here.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 15:54:32 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Rockparkman on Mon Jun 4 15:28:01 2012.

Like most chains, Staples is better than the stores it replaced. It has massive selection and ample hours. Besides, it sells stuff that's impractical for small stores to sell. Do you think that small stores would stock all those different ink cartridges?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 16:08:10 2012, in response to Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 3 21:17:47 2012.

When your family is rich you can do things without pay and not worry about the pinch. Then the Obama donation is a complete lie. Then to call the Obama administration the big spender, well lets see, our federal tax dollars... 25% of it goes to the 600 billion dollar defense budget which Republicans don't want cut so Romney is screwed there. The next big one is Health Care at 24% which means he'd have to cut Medicaid and Childrens Health Insurance programs which would hurt the elderly and the youth (thats looking out for our future). Then its Job and Family security at 20% Now he could reduce that by eliminating the tax credits but that amounts to a tax increase, but he could eliminate Housing Assistance even though it only makes up 2% of that 19% or Temp Assistance for needy families which makes up .6% and that unemployment insurance only takes up 2.3%. Then comes the next big one... Debt Repayment at a whopping 8% which Romney certainly can't do a damn thing about except pay more of it off. So where does Romney cut, he won't do a tax increase so he has to make big cuts, but the biggest one he won't cut.

Romney is painting himself into a huge corner but if he wins I can't wait to see his supporters defend his spending and his tax cuts while our debt increases cause you know in math when you have less money but maintain the level of spending you have... you incur debt. He might actually raise the debt faster than Obama did. But then you guys will say "its Obamas fault" and I'll giggle inside.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 16:11:48 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 15:54:32 2012.

It has higher prices than OfficeMax.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 4 16:18:20 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 4 12:37:33 2012.

So go ahead, vote for the Kenyan phony.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 16:18:37 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 16:11:48 2012.

Maybe, but OfficeMax is a big box too and therefore another bogeyman for certain types.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 16:19:19 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Railman718 on Mon Jun 4 12:58:48 2012.

As depicted, no. Bain's primary role was to make struggling companies profitable. It didn't always happen. Romney was NOT Gordon Gekko.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 16:19:19 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 4 16:18:20 2012.

What Kenyan phony?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 16:21:14 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 12:47:16 2012.

And anyone with political aspirations has to have their charitable motivations questioned. Mitt's had political aspirations for decades.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 4 16:21:27 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 16:19:19 2012.

You know, that guy whose father fought against the Brits and then took his son to Indonesia to cozy up to the Communists there.


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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 16:22:43 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 4 16:21:27 2012.

While they dined lavishly on dog and durian.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 16:30:20 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 16:19:19 2012.

He was the closest thing to Gordon Gekko sen in real life. Bain liquidated as many companies as they sustained. The sole parameter was maximizing their profit. No regard was ever considered for the existing management and employees. Some got lucky and kept their jobs...typically at lower pay and fewer if any benefits. Many lost pensions they had worked for years in anticipation of collecting, and received no compensation for their loss.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 17:31:31 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 13:10:15 2012.

I CALL




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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 17:56:21 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 16:30:20 2012.

Apparently you have no concept of what capitalism is all about or at least you pretend well here. Capitalism has been the driving force of this country for most of its existence. It is not pretty but it has never failed - unlike the socialist model that you embrace for everyone else but for your own measly business. If Bain stepped in and saved companies like Staples by trimming fat and laying off people to make the company profitable, is that a bad thing? Would it be better if Staples went out of existence and everyone lost their job and every investor lost money? Look at what your clown did. I plowed money into Solyndra. He cut a deal so that his buddies would get paid before the American Taxpayers would and then when the company went belly up, he stood there like a moron palms facing upwards and shoulders shrugged. I guess that's a better outcome that some real management coming in and saving the company - better for you, anyway. Sorry but Capitalism built the railroads and the steel mills and fueled the industrial revolution. If you hate capitalism so much, take your facocta business and move to China.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:03:40 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Railman718 on Mon Jun 4 12:58:48 2012.

Absolutely not true but it makes for great propaganda. Companies go broke and their contracts with unions get abrogated every time. Hasn't this happened several times in the Airline industry? All Bain did was provide a parachute where these companies trim fat, and yes, in certain circumstances shed onerous contracts, and streamline the company to return it to profitability. Which would you prefer - American Airlines or Pan Am? Yeah - sometimes its not pretty but it beats the alternative where the company goes belly up and everyone including the stock holders lose. That's capitalism.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:05:00 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 16:11:48 2012.

So you should go to Officemax. No one has taken your freedom of choice away.

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 18:11:27 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 08:55:10 2012.

Same ... I don't believe that religious leaders should be in government all. This nation was founded on a basis of people escaping religious government elsewhere for one, and secondly "Render unto Caesar" from Christ's own lips. There's plenty of other nations people are welcome to move to if they want to be ruled by somebody's church ...

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 18:17:08 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 17:56:21 2012.

I have a better concept of capitalism than a civil service employee who sucked on the public teat, without even keeping up with technology changes in their sphere of work, their entire career.

Bain bought into many perfectly fine, profitable companies and gutted them. Here's one example

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:20:00 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Dave on Mon Jun 4 08:55:10 2012.

But the person you are responding to NEVER argued that Sharpton or Jesse Jackson should not be president when they each ran twice for office. Perhaps he has different rules for different parties or just different rules for some religions?

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Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 18:22:59 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:03:40 2012.

So it's not about job creation. Massachussetts also shed jobs during Romney's term. The man kills jobs, it seems.

Your pal,
Fred

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