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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Mar 22 15:28:14 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 22 15:06:43 2012.

"Whom are you talking to? "

SLRT.....is that you as well? I guess subchatters have multiple personalities.


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Re: Trayvon

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 22 15:32:56 2012, in response to Re: Trayvon, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 07:30:15 2012.

IAWTP

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Mar 22 15:39:35 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Mar 22 14:56:16 2012.

Yes, we agree with the Honorable Holder in the White House that only whites can be racist.

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City Criticizes Police Chief After Shooting

Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Mar 22 15:54:44 2012, in response to Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 08:49:59 2012.

From the NYTIMES.COM:

March 22, 2012

City Criticizes Police Chief After Shooting

By LIZETTE ALVAREZ
MIAMI — Facing mounting protests over the shooting death of an unarmed black teenager by a neighborhood watch volunteer, the Sanford City Commission voted on Wednesday that they had no confidence in the city’s police chief.

The vote of 3 to 2 came on a day when demonstrators, many wearing hoodies as Trayvon Martin, 17, was when he was shot to death on Feb. 26, marched in New York City and Miami. The marchers demanded that the police arrest George Zimmerman, the watch volunteer in Sanford, a small city north of Orlando.

Mr. Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic, told the police that he shot Trayvon in self-defense after an altercation. The teenager was walking home from a convenience store, where he bought iced tea and Skittles, when he was shot once in the chest.

The commissioners cannot fire the police chief, Bill Lee Jr., who reports to the city manager. Norton Bonaparte, the city manager, said he would take the no-confidence vote under advisement.

Velma Williams, one of three city commissioners who voted no confidence at the three-hour special meeting, said afterward that she could not understand why the police had not made an arrest in the case. “Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder can see through all of this,” she said.

But Commissioner Randy Jones, who chose not to vote against the police chief, was not so sure, saying Chief Lee was welcoming a review of the department’s handling of the shooting. “The wheels of justice turn at 55 miles per hour, to make sure it’s deliberate, that everything lines up,” Mr. Jones said.

Chief Lee has served only 10 months leading a police department that has had a troubled relationship with blacks in Sanford. His predecessor, Brian Tooley, was forced out of the job after a scandal that involved a police lieutenant’s son. The son attacked a homeless man in December 2010 but the police did not immediately arrest him after the episode, which was recorded on video. Even after being sent a video of the attack, Chief Tooley failed to act promptly.

This came five years after two white security guards killed a black teenager. One of the guards was the son of a former Sanford police officer and the other was a volunteer in the department. The security guards claimed self-defense, saying that the black teenager tried to run them over. The teenager died from a gunshot wound in his back.

A judge dismissed the case over lack of evidence. The case inflamed passions in the town about the treatment of blacks by the criminal justice system.

“There is one issue after another here between the Police Department and the black community,” said Turner Clayton, president of the Seminole County branch of the N.A.A.C.P.

The Department of Justice and the state attorney in Seminole County have opened inquiries into the shooting.

Joseph Freeman contributed reporting from Sanford, Fla.




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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)


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Re: Butt Weight (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 15:57:25 2012, in response to Re: Butt Weight (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by SMAZ on Thu Mar 22 12:18:35 2012.

On the census, yeah. On police reports and traffic tickets and many other records "Hispanic" is treated as a race. They put "H" where it asks for race.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 16:03:26 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by Rockparkman on Tue Mar 20 16:58:08 2012.

Mexican-Irish is very common in LA. More than anyone might think if they didn't know.

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Re: City Criticizes Police Chief After Shooting

Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 16:05:05 2012, in response to City Criticizes Police Chief After Shooting, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Mar 22 15:54:44 2012.

He already resigned but only temporarily which is a new one on me. Maybe it's. Leave of absence or a temporary demotion.

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Re: City Criticizes Police Chief After Shooting

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Mar 22 16:07:20 2012, in response to City Criticizes Police Chief After Shooting, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Mar 22 15:54:44 2012.

All those clowns had to do was the right thing...

Now that whole department is in a world load of chit..

Good....

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 22 16:17:13 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Mar 22 15:28:14 2012.

LOL! Read his post again.

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Re: City Criticizes Police Chief After Shooting

Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Mar 22 19:07:31 2012, in response to City Criticizes Police Chief After Shooting, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Mar 22 15:54:44 2012.

Not sure which is a stupider career move, being a cop in a black area, or being a border patrol agent.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 19:40:11 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 16:03:26 2012.

Mexican-Irish is very common in LA. More than anyone might think if they didn't know.

They must meet at some kind of church group.


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Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 20:08:07 2012, in response to Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 13:23:27 2012.

You pretend to "support gay rights", but don't think we deserve to marry. Yet, when I call you out on this, you play the victim and say I'm "attacking" you.

What you support is an arbitrary, inferior, inadequate "construction" that serves only to highlight our socially secondary status in many parts of this country. Of course, anything that puts us as gay people on an equal level with you, is unacceptable to you. That's why you feel perfectly justified in saying gay marriage "redefines" the institution, without supporting that assertion with real facts showing how such a "redefinition" actually occurs when gays are allowed to marry. THIW.

The Trayvon shooting is another sad reminder that walking while black is STILL a life-safety issue in the South, and many other regions of the country.

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Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror)

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 20:12:08 2012, in response to Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 20:08:07 2012.

Turn on 1600 AM.

I'll respond to your post later.

There's a lot going on and two things happened on Long Island Press.

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Mar 22 20:44:51 2012, in response to Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 08:49:59 2012.

I'm going to laugh if it eventually turns out that Trayvon indeed initiated a struggle against Zimmerman leading to him being shot. Now, would the media dare report that should it be the case? Hmm....

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 20:52:51 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Mar 22 20:44:51 2012.

I don't know how that could be proven given that one of the two people involved was killed, but if it were proven how could they not report it?

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Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror)

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 20:56:26 2012, in response to Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 20:08:07 2012.

You pretend to "support gay rights", but don't think we deserve to marry. Yet, when I call you out on this, you play the victim and say I'm "attacking" you.

I have said that gays deserve the same health care, death, and tax benefits as straight couples. There are people out there who are appalled at this and think gays deserve less. I don't, yet you count me as one of them.

The Trayvon shooting is another sad reminder that walking while black is STILL a life-safety issue in the South, and many other regions of the country.

I have pointed out that police in central Florida have under heavy attack by the black community since I moved to Fla. We know that every cop killed in the Tampa area has been killed by a black male. It's always a black male.

Even in NYC, recent attacks against police have been carried out exclusively by minorities. So of course cops and civilians are more likely going to fear blacks more than any other group.

What's interesting about you is that when someone like me posts a story or video of blacks as aggressors, it's racist. When you posted the Atlanta story it was not seen as racist. THIW.





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Re: The Knoxville Horror

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 20:56:54 2012, in response to Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 20:56:26 2012.

"Deserve" . . . ? Does anyone really "deserve" anything?

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 20:59:56 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Mar 22 20:44:51 2012.

I would be extremely, extremely surprised if Trayvon actually started a struggle, given that Zimmerman:

Stalked and followed trayvon, even in the face of instructions not to do so;

Approached and accosted Martin, even though he, Zimmerman, was not a law-enforcement officer of any kind, and had no legal right to question or touch Trayvon;

AND did all this while armed with a 9-mm pistol.

Here is a MUCH more likely scenario. Zimmerman, thinking he'll be a big hero for collaring a young black felon wearing a hoodie, follows and exits his car to accost Trayvon. (Is getting out of your car to confront somebody the act of a man "afraid for his life"? I don't think so.) Martin, on the phone with his girlfriend, tells her he is being followed by a strange man in a car. She hears Trayvon ask "what are you following me for?", to which Zinmmerman challenges him with "what are you doing here?" Because Zimmerman is not a cop, and outweighs Trayvon by 110 pounds, it is far more reasonable that Trayvon is the one in fear for his life at this point, not Zimmerman.

Trayvon probably tried to get away from this hulking, strange adult at this time, fearful that he was about to be assaulted, and Zimmerman interpreted this as "resisting his authority". A scuffle then ensued, and Zimmerman drew his weapon and fired it when he was unable to "subdue" this "threatening" 140-pound child. Knowing he fucked up royally, the first thing that popped into his head was to claim self-defense, which, so far, is working well for Zimmerman.

Think about it. "Walking while black" is still a life-safety issue for young men of color.

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:00:02 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 20:52:51 2012.

On Al Sharpton radio, they are calling Zimmerman "a white man".


but if it were proven how could they not report it?

You're kidding right? That's when CNN, MSNBC and other MSM go silent and Fox News runs one blocks an hour on the story.


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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:05:00 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 20:59:56 2012.

"Wearing a hoodie"

People keep bringing that up.

What were the temps in NY today? How were people dressed?

Tomorrow's high in NYC is going to be 70 and no one in their right mind will be wearing a hoodie.

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 22 21:05:11 2012, in response to Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 08:49:59 2012.

Parents: police chief stepping aside not enough

..SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — The parents of an unarmed black teenager who was shot to death by a neighborhood watch volunteer say they are not satisfied that the Sanford police chief is temporarily stepping down.

Tracy and Sybrina Martin told hundreds of supporters at a rally Thursday that they want George Zimmerman arrested in the shooting death of their son, Trayvon Martin.

The parents made their remarks just hours after Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee said he would step aside to let passions cool. Lee said he stands by his agency's decision not to arrest Zimmerman, who claims the Feb. 26 shooting was self-defense.

Civil rights groups have been holding rallies, saying the shooting was not justified.



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Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 21:06:03 2012, in response to Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 20:56:26 2012.

If you believe gays "deserve the same health care, death, and tax benefits as straight couples", then why don't you support us enjoying the right to marry, just like straight couples?

Also, you still haven't posted FACTS backing up your assertion that every cop in central Florida that has been shot, has been shot by a "minority".

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 21:07:55 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:05:00 2012.

It was RAINING in Sanford the night of Feb. 26 when trayvon was shot. It's reasonable to think he might be wearing appropriate clothing for the weather.

Hoodies, however, as you know full well, are considered "suspicious" when worn by young black men.

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:12:50 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 22 21:05:11 2012.

bunch of violence on Ling Island today with minority victims. no one cares unless your life is taken by someone if a different race or ethnicity. THIW.

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Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror)

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:17:53 2012, in response to Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 21:06:03 2012.

actually every cop in the Tampa area(which is what I have been saying all along) has been killed by a black male specifically.



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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:28:24 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 21:07:55 2012.

It will be 70 in NYC and everyone will be in short sleeves, some shorts even with rain in forecast.

Hoodies are marketed to young minorities into that look.

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 22 21:33:06 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:12:50 2012.

same shit to me only worse

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 21:35:53 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:28:24 2012.

The hooded sweatshirt has gained too infamous a stereotype over in the UK.

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 21:36:17 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:28:24 2012.

It's not just minorities. Look at the London riots. Lots of white dudes wearing hoodies.

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 21:37:06 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 21:36:17 2012.

You noticed that as well, eh.

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:37:46 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 21:36:17 2012.

LOL. It's a ghetto look now. That's who owns the look. A few white dudes with hoods does not change things.



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Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror)

Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 21:41:27 2012, in response to Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:17:53 2012.

There's no more cops in Tampa?!?!

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Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror)

Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 21:43:22 2012, in response to Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 21:06:03 2012.

why don't you support us enjoying the right to marry, just like straight couples?

No one asked, but FTR I support you being able to marry just like straight couples.

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Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror)

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 21:45:04 2012, in response to Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror), posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 21:43:22 2012.

How can they marry like straight couples? Are you suggesting that gay males can only marry lesbian females?

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Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror)

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 21:47:39 2012, in response to Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror), posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 21:41:27 2012.

LOL

every cop killed in Tampa area at hands of black male.

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Re: Butt Weight (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 22:52:34 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 22 02:19:59 2012.

The Washington Post also said that the surname "could have been Jewish". Typical sick liberalism . . .

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Re: Butt Weight (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 22 22:57:15 2012, in response to Re: Butt Weight (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 22:52:34 2012.

And Elmo McEnroy is obviously a Scots Catholic ...



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Re: Butt Weight (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 23:01:07 2012, in response to Re: Butt Weight (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 22 22:57:15 2012.

When I was a kid, we had a beat cop on our block named Francis O'Leary. Biggest, blackest man I ever knew in my life. I always felt sorry for the poor guy, having to go through life with such an incongruously Irish name...LOL!

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Re: Butt Weight (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 22 23:11:36 2012, in response to Re: Butt Weight (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 23:01:07 2012.

I suppose Olog would insist that any journalist file to see the birth certificate before turning in a story. :)

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Mar 22 23:18:42 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 22 20:59:56 2012.

Yes, it will be very interesting to see how this plays out. Did they release the audio from that final cell phone conversation already? I could've sworn I'd heard a piece of it on the news, or I may have been imagining things.

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Re: The Knoxville Horror

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Mar 27 13:51:26 2012, in response to Re: The Knoxville Horror, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 23:41:00 2012.

Why did you quit the TA? Same type of question that you refuse to answer.

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Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror)

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Mar 27 13:58:26 2012, in response to Re: Irrelevant canard (Re: The Knoxville Horror), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 21:45:04 2012.

No, troll, he means that gay couples can marry each other just like "straight" couples. In all but a few states gay couples can marry and get all the benefits (and churches that don't want to marry gay couples are not required to do so.

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