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Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 08:49:59 2012

Following widespread public outrage over the killing of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in a Florida gated community by a self-styled "neighborhood watch captain", the Justice Department has opened an investigation into the shooting.

There are so many things wrong with the way this case is being handled by local authorities, federal intervention, IMO, was almost inevitable.

Here are just a few observations:

1. Florida's notorious "stand your ground" law, which many are interpreting as meaning Martin's alleged killer, George Zimmerman, is "immune" from prosecution, does not confer this "immunity" on a person who merely CLAIMS self-defense, as Zimmerman did. The person claiming self-defense must also PROVE this to be true.

2. How on God's green Earth can Zimmerman, who continued to follow Martin after being specifically told NOT to do so by a 911 dispatcher, claim "self-defense" at all? Zimmerman pursued this boy, alighted from his vehicle armed with a handgun, confronted Martin--who was exactly where he had every right to be--and shot Martin to death. If I saw a strange man jump out of a car and begin questioning me, I'd consider my own life to be in imminent peril.

3. Zimmerman and the Sanford police chief would have us believe the 250-pound Zimmerman "got the sh*t beat out of him" by the 140-pound Martin, who, by all accounts, was "not a fighter". Yeah, right, and I'm gonna marry Mehcad Brooks tomorrow...

4. No criminal background check, drug or alcohol testing was dine on Zimmerman at the scene of the crime, even though this is SOP for a shooting death. Police took Zimmerman at his word, even "correcting" eyewitnesses whose 911 calls contradict Zimmerman's version of events. Yet Martin's background was immediately investigated to try to find some justifiable reason for this modern-day lynching. Before discovering that Martin was, in fact, legitimately entitled to be in the gated community, they were ready to conclude he was up to no good--for walking while black, wearing a hoodie--IN THE RAIN.

Yup, I'm saying without reservation, that if the roles had been reversed, that is, if Zimmerman had been black and shot a white "suspect", he'd be in a windowless cell at the bottom of the jail, duly receiving his twice-daily beating. THIW. The feds need to get to the bottom of this mess quickly, and prosecute Zimmerman for murder.

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 08:57:03 2012, in response to Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 08:49:59 2012.

Theres over 400 thousand folks who signed a online petition to get this looked at. Heck the color of the people In this sad incident out of the window for a second how can a Big guy like that even use a excuse like that "Self Defense?"

Thats what happens when p***ies get guns i guess...

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 08:59:35 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 08:57:03 2012.

at one point, signatures for a Change,org petition on Martin were coming in at the rate of 10,000 an hour. I'm shocked and appalled that Zimmerman ois still walking the streets as a free man.

(Waits for the inevitable spin from the right-hand side of the board on this...)

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But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 20 09:31:45 2012, in response to Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 08:49:59 2012.

Zimmerman's family says he is not white, but Hispanic, so the contention is it's not racial.

This isn't the first time something like this has come up in Florida. Some years back, in a short time frame, a white officer shot a Hispanic man, and a Hispanic officer shot a black man. But in the first care the Hispanic man was described as "Hispanic," but in the second case the Hispanic officer was described as "white."

Would it be possible to decide this case on the law and the facts, rather than race? I doubt it.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 09:54:57 2012, in response to But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 20 09:31:45 2012.

I think Zimmerman is part white, part Hispanic. In any case, the Sanford PD's handling of this case is so shot through with inconsistencies and negligence, that a federal inquiry is necessary.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 20 10:07:15 2012, in response to But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 20 09:31:45 2012.

It's only racial in that the darker your skin is, the more likely you are to be accidentally shot. The situation would warrant more investigation even if the shooter has been black.

If you are told by a police representative not to pursue a suspicious character, and you do so anyway, and shoot him in "self defense", a thorough investigation is merited no matter what your skin color is or that of the person being shot.


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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 20 10:33:10 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 09:54:57 2012.

I think Zimmerman is part white, part Hispanic.

Well that's different, then. We'll have to determine whether Martin was killed by Zimmerman's white part or his Hispanic part.

We'll also have to learn whether his name is a Jewish Zimmerman or German Zimmerman.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 20 10:53:42 2012, in response to But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 20 09:31:45 2012.

We'll have to make him white so that we ca calm down the community.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 11:08:59 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by AlM on Tue Mar 20 10:07:15 2012.

If you are told by a police representative not to pursue a suspicious character, and you do so anyway, and shoot him in "self defense", a thorough investigation is merited no matter what your skin color is or that of the person being shot.

T*R*U*T*H



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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 11:10:28 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 08:59:35 2012.

(Waits for the inevitable spin from the right-hand side of the board on this...)

Some things are best NOT commenting on..

This should be one of them if this isnt a "Captian Obvious" situation here...



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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 11:39:37 2012, in response to But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 20 09:31:45 2012.

Zimmerman's family says he is not white, but Hispanic, so the contention is it's not racial.

According to the callers on Al Sharpton's radio show, he's Jewish, and that is why the media isn't talking about it(last week this story was huge on Sharpton while no one else knew about it).


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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 11:46:04 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 20 10:53:42 2012.

Correct. Everyone wants him to be white even if he isn't. The callers on Sharpton's radio show think he's Jewish because of his last name. That radio is awesome.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 11:48:00 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 11:39:37 2012.

According to the callers on Al Sharpton's radio show, he's Jewish, and that is why the media isn't talking about it(last week this story was huge on Sharpton while no one else knew about it).

The sad thing is if hes dealt with (legal wise) this prob dont even make the news. All those fools in the Sheriffs Dept had to do the right thing but hes prob buddies with them now watch they take the fall too...



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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 11:48:28 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 11:46:04 2012.

Everyone wants him to be white even if he isn't.

I do?

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Mar 20 11:48:50 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 11:46:04 2012.

The callers on Sharpton's radio show think he's Jewish because of his last name

LOL...do they live under a rock?

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Mar 20 11:49:51 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Mar 20 11:48:50 2012.

OMG please disregard my last post...completely misread this.

Perhaps Zimmerman is part Jewish...*shrug*

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Mar 20 11:50:45 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by AlM on Tue Mar 20 10:07:15 2012.

Precisely!

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 11:53:46 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 11:48:00 2012.

There are racial tensions in Florida.

Just west of Orlando, in the Tampa area, every single cop killed in the line of duty has been killed by a black male. 100% of the time. People are afraid of minorities, young blacks in particular for a reason. Most recent was days before Christmas when Orlando youth shot cop in the face in Lakeland.

Minority gangs in general are transforming the Sunshine State from a retirement community into the hood/barrio. Sorry, but it's true.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 11:58:33 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 11:53:46 2012.

But Trayvon Martin was neither a gang member or a thig. In fact, Zimmerman was the aggressor here. What do you have to say about THAT?

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 11:59:37 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 11:53:46 2012.

Where you been Bro?

Its been like that for a while!!

Since the 90's..

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 12:00:29 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 11:58:33 2012.

He was "scared" of him JayZee..

Remeber my comment about p***ies with Guns?

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 12:10:16 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 12:00:29 2012.

But if Zimmetman was "afraid for his life", why did he get off the phone with 911 and get out pf his car, instead of staying back and letting the police handle it?

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 12:20:24 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 12:10:16 2012.

You really should know when im being sarcastic...

;o)

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 12:25:48 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by Railman718 on Tue Mar 20 12:20:24 2012.

I do...but I just wanted to point out the absurdity of Zimmerman's claims.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Mar 20 12:57:34 2012, in response to But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 20 09:31:45 2012.

People should get it through their heads that hispanic is not a race. It is a culture.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 20 13:26:23 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 11:46:04 2012.

I guess I'll be forced to listen to the Democratic Leaders radio show for my dose of hate speech. The violent racists haven't been calling into general AM radio yet with their O'bama complex and I'm getting disappointed waiting.

At least this beats commenting on Jayzees preposterous opt-ed about "Floridas Notorious" whatever.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 20 13:37:23 2012, in response to But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 20 09:31:45 2012.

Zimmerman's family says he is not white, but Hispanic, so the contention is it's not racial.

What difference does it make? So if he's white it's murder, and if he's Hispanic it's self defense?

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 20 13:38:06 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Mar 20 12:57:34 2012.

People should get it through their heads that hispanic is not a race. It is a culture.

It's an ethnicity that includes multiple cultures.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 20 13:46:43 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Mar 20 13:37:23 2012.

Don't make no never mind to me, but it counts to some.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 13:59:45 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by orange blossom special on Tue Mar 20 13:26:23 2012.

What is so sad about this country is that national advertisers are forced to buy time on Al Sharpton, while they boycott shows with thirty times the listenership.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 20 14:05:06 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 13:59:45 2012.

Nobody is forced to buy time anywhere. i'm sure there are hundreds or even thousands of national chains that do NOT advertise on Sharpton's show. If there weren't, his shows would be 100% ads.

If Sharpton's show has 1/30th the listenership of another show, the cost of advertising is probably about 1/30th as much per minute. The people who are buying the ads no doubt believe they are getting value for their money.





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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:07:29 2012, in response to Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 08:49:59 2012.

There's a lot going on sir.

you have been absent.

I suspect cortelyounext of being back in the air.

i listen to Al Sharpton on 1600 AM.

I listened to one episode of the gay show that follows.

streetcarman1 ran out of computer time early this month.

I support gay rights yet you always attack me.



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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:13:36 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by AlM on Tue Mar 20 14:05:06 2012.

Al Sharpton has

Home Depot
McDonald's
Walgreens

I can't remember the others but I'll listen tonight and make note.

If an advertiser buys time on Al Sharpton they are endorsing his political views and history of racism.

When Rush called that girl a "slut" there were several statements and articles about the topic of national advertisers avoiding talk radio because they don't want to be seen as endorsing a political viewpoint. These companies should show some consistency.

In the case Sharpton, his show is not even live in NYC. It's taped and aired at 8p which isn't even coveted drive-time. These companies are making a political statement buying time on his show.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 20 14:20:10 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:13:36 2012.

If an advertiser buys time on Al Sharpton they are endorsing his political views and history of racism.

False. No more true than that advertisers on Rush Limbaugh are endorsing his view of the world.





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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:28:25 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by AlM on Tue Mar 20 14:20:10 2012.

False. No more true than that advertisers on Rush Limbaugh are endorsing his view of the world.

Then why boycott an advertiser for buying on Beck or Rush? If your argument worked, the diversity police who have been successful in getting advertisers to pull would not succeed.

This is why advertisers like McDonald's, Home Depot, CVS all avoid shows like Beck and Hannity but don't fear being on Sharpton. In fact, they would seek out a Sharpton to make it appear that they are endorsing diversity and civil rights by being on his show. THIW.




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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 20 14:28:57 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 13:59:45 2012.

Why would they be forces to buy time? If you are any example, he has a diverse audience. :)

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:33:52 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 20 14:28:57 2012.

I should have said "feel compelled" instead of "forced".

Either way, they are making a political statement buying time on that show. That's all it is. Political correctness. Pay tribute to the godfather of activism.

I listen to ridicule the content and callers, just like the Fred G, Selkirk, bingbong, RIPTA42, AlM, JayZeeBMT, Jayman, MJF, element are always on the lookout for Palin material.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 20 14:37:31 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:28:25 2012.

Copmanies who deliberately avoid a show might be making a political statement. They might also just be trying to avoid offending anyone.

Maybe McDonald's feels they will get flack if they advertise on Rush but won't get flack if they advertise on Sharpton. They certainly don't have a reputation of being a left wing company, that's for sure.

Anothr possibility is that McDonald's feels that its customer base is better represented among Sharpton listeners than Limbaugh listeners.

Very few companies make public political statements. It's just not good for the bottom line. You lose the people who disagree but don't gain much more revenue from those who agree.



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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 20 14:37:46 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:33:52 2012.

I realize you reason for listening, hence the :) at the end of my statement. And as you suggest, that is standard practice on the left. However, three of those that you named are severely damaged individuals. Normal motives should not be ascribed to them.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 20 14:38:07 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 09:54:57 2012.

I think Zimmerman is part white, part Hispanic.

I hope you realize that that is silly, since the overwhelming majority of Hispanics are "part White".

Hispanic is not a race or an ethnic group, but a silly Census classification.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 20 14:39:07 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:33:52 2012.

I have NEVER been on the lookout for Palin material. I have commented on some Palin threads, but I don't remember ever starting one.

The NY Times isn't a good source of Palin material, you know. :)



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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:46:41 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by AlM on Tue Mar 20 14:37:31 2012.

Maybe McDonald's feels they will get flack if they advertise on Rush but won't get flack if they advertise on Sharpton. They certainly don't have a reputation of being a left wing company, that's for sur

That's the point. There is no fear of being on Sharpton but they know that Sharpton or other militants will harass them if they're on a show like Rush, Hannity, or Hewitt. That's why we need activism for white people. Activist not affiliated with the white power movement.


Anothr possibility is that McDonald's feels that its customer base is better represented among Sharpton listeners than Limbaugh listeners.

I won't deny that Sharpton's audience is the McDonald's audience. But the segment of whites who listen to Rush are certainly the Rush element. You don't know how many times I've been at a local McDonald's in Florida and seen anti-Obama stickers on a truck or noticed Fox News on the television.

In Tampa when McCafe was introduced, McDonald's did buy time locally on WFLA during Beck, Rush, and Schnitt. A watchdog group heard the ads and got them pulled and Schnitt, being a local talker told the story on air.


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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 20 14:47:19 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 09:54:57 2012.

I think looking at the nationality, religion or race of the shooter to score some imagined political gain is idiotic. The young man is dead. He's no more or less dead because the shooter is Hispanic or white than he would be if the shooter were Asian or black or even Asian black. This is more left wing bullshit to keep people at odds with each other - democratic divide and conquer strategy at its best.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 20 14:51:58 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 20 14:38:07 2012.

Indeed.

Had my parents moved to Argentina instead of the US and had I then later emigrated to the US myself, I'd be an Hispanic instead of an ethnic Italian as if my bloodline had somehow been magically altered by my Argentinian nationality and upbringing.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:53:56 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 20 14:51:58 2012.

People from Argentina are white.



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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 20 14:55:44 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by JayMan on Tue Mar 20 14:38:07 2012.

I think the majority of Hispanics (not from Latin America) are as "white" as Italians or Spaniards or, for that matter, Jews.

Hispanic as distinguished from "white" or "black" is a term used politically to identify people as a minority community.

It is an irony that ethnic Germans and Poles and Jews are all blandly called white in this country, when they sure weren't (and probably aren't) in the Mother Country*

*Term of sarcasm, if anyone has any doubt.


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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 20 15:00:54 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:53:56 2012.

Maradona is white?

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Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Mar 20 15:05:25 2012, in response to Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 14:07:29 2012.

I support gay rights yet you always attack me.

You don't support gay marriage (but civil unions) right? In the eyes of too many, that's considered not believing in gay rights.

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Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Mar 20 15:06:02 2012, in response to Re: But Wait! (Re: Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder), posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 20 14:55:44 2012.

I think the majority of Hispanics (not from Latin America)

How can Hispanics not be of Latin American national ancestry?

That's the very definition of "Hispanic" regardless of race or real ethnicty.

It's why Dominicans and Puerto Ricans are Hispanic while Virgin Islanders and Haitians are not.

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The Knoxville Horror

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 20 15:08:51 2012, in response to Feds Now Investigating Trayvon Martin Murder, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 20 08:49:59 2012.

The Knoxville Horror.

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