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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Mar 4 15:20:18 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 15:07:56 2012. If you give me 2 one dollar bills for a $1.25 purchase, I +WILL+ give you 3 Quarter Dollar coins in change. What will you do with those??? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 15:21:20 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Mar 4 14:54:27 2012. Absoulutely true. While obviously there are mostly pennies. ALL denominations of coins spend time in jars unused. Most people dont want to use change...and even a huge percentage of dollar coins do and will do the same thing till cashed in for paper.....much more dollar coins would sit idle in jars than dollar bills sit uncirculated. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 15:23:13 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Charles G on Sun Mar 4 15:01:10 2012. They will just have to print more twos or fives to make up. The savings is highly exagerrated. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 15:32:03 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Charles G on Sun Mar 4 14:59:52 2012. Again...who cares? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 4 15:33:16 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 14:38:11 2012. You are saying that people will carry MORE money in bills if dollar bills were eliminated. Why would you think that? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 4 15:40:13 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 15:14:23 2012. When does anyone get "18 ratty bills" for change when paying $20 for a $2 item?Go-go bar. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 15:42:56 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by RockParkMan on Sun Mar 4 15:20:18 2012. Throw them in the center console of my car as I do all the other nusiance change...or in jars at home...until which time i bring them tothe bank to convert back into usable paper money |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 15:48:54 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by AlM on Sun Mar 4 15:33:16 2012. I am saying you wont have a perfect 1 $2 bill for every 2 $1 bills.....as a lot more $1 coins will sit idle in jars than paper $1 bills sit idle. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Mar 4 15:57:11 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 15:42:56 2012. Ok, a form of savings*. I bet you get over $1000 a year this way.*Unfortunately, there's no interest. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 16:49:19 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by RockParkMan on Sun Mar 4 15:57:11 2012. Heh. Actually, my aversion to change does make for some "extra" money. While it's not techncally "extra", when it gets saved up like that, you do all of a sudden have 'extra" money when you cash it in. I have liked going to the bank with a large coffee can or two of change, and walking out with a couple hundred dollars in paper money. You are right, it is somewhere between $600-$1000 a year, as I usually get about $180-$200 each time I go, and it's once every 4 or so months.And yes, it's "no interest", but in the bank you get less than 1%, sometmes .02%!, so it's not like much is lost on a few hundred dollars. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 16:51:16 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by RockParkMan on Sat Mar 3 21:27:27 2012. I wouldn't make life so easy for you, so I'm staying. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 16:52:37 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Allan on Sat Mar 3 23:30:16 2012. I don't think it matters if it's consecutive. For example, I don't think Bill Clinton could run again. Or George Bush Jr. But of course George Bush Sr could. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 4 17:06:19 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 15:48:54 2012. ???Say right now I typically carry 8 $1 bills, plus various 5s, 10s, and 20s. If they are abolished, I might get $1 coins as change and put them in a drawer, that's true. But why would I need to carry more than 4 $2 bills? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 4 17:06:27 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 14:38:11 2012. I know you oppose this idea, but if dollar bills were outright eliminated, based on what people do in other countries Americans would also begin to use dollar coins out of necessity. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Mar 4 17:10:44 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Mar 3 11:12:19 2012. It doesn't work here. How many dollar coins have been introduced and failed to catch on. Same with the $2 bill. What isn't stored away in federal vaults are in peoples' top dresser drawers. People prefer their one dollar paper bills over dollar coins. The two dollar bill only saw limited circulation, at best. How many more times do we have to go through this crap??? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Mar 4 17:12:47 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 16:51:16 2012. At lease you like classic diesels. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 4 17:15:30 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 14:50:26 2012. Good post. How can he not see this? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 17:22:46 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by AlM on Sun Mar 4 17:06:19 2012. Since many more dollar coins will sit idle in containers than dollar bills do now, something will have to make up for that, and that would be more two dollar bills because of the fact that that currency won't be horded instead of in circulation. If 4 people have 5 dollar bills each, but in the future will need 3 $2 bills to cover that, as the dollar coin will be stowed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 17:24:40 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Elkeeper on Sun Mar 4 17:10:44 2012. We have to go through this, because there's certain people that want to always enforce their preferences on others |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 4 17:29:24 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Elkeeper on Sun Mar 4 17:10:44 2012. It doesn't work here only because people are stubborn and have an aversion to change (as in change of their way of life, not coin style change). In Canada, the dollar bill was eliminated in 1987 and life went on... there was no rioting in the streets, no whining and crying like a bunch of spoiled babies, no nothing. The people eventually got used to it, just like anything else. If try the same thing in the U.S., after the riots and whining and crying dies down, everybody will get used to it... |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 4 17:36:23 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 4 17:06:27 2012. Exactly.BTW, when I use cash at various vending machines (Metro Card, LIRR, soda or candy), to me it's way easier to just deposit dollar coins than to fuss with wrinkled and other imperfect paper bills... |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 17:36:55 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Allan on Sat Mar 3 23:30:16 2012. It's two terms whether consecutive or not. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 17:43:53 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Charles G on Sun Mar 4 15:01:10 2012. IAWTP |
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Posted by Charles G on Sun Mar 4 17:46:39 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 17:36:55 2012. I don't recall exactly -- and am too lazy to look it up before I go to bed -- but isn't it something along the lines of a President can only be elected twice.So if a President were to die in office with 18 months left in his term, then the Vice President could serve the last 18 months and then serve an additional 8 years. Or am I remembering things completely wrong? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 17:50:42 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 17:24:40 2012. Your fetish for the $1 bill is unhealthy. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 17:52:15 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Elkeeper on Sun Mar 4 17:10:44 2012. The $2 bill is now worth what a buck was 25 years ago.Your example of past behavior does not take that into consideration. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 17:56:20 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Charles G on Sun Mar 4 17:46:39 2012. You are correct.However if a VP succeeds a President who still had more than 24 months left in office (like Ford did), he/she can only run once. Had Ford won in 1976 he would have been term-limited after that even though it would have been his sole election. However LBJ was not limited in 1968 since JFK had only about 14 months left in his term when Johnson succeeded him. It's why LBJ was able to run (briefly) in 1968. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 4 17:57:16 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Charles G on Sun Mar 4 17:46:39 2012. You are correct but not 100% complete. If you have already served 2+ years as a result of succeeding to the presidency, you can only serve 1 more term. If you have served less than 2 years, you can serve 2 more terms. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 4 17:58:58 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 17:52:15 2012. I keep saying $1 is worth than a quarter was worth 50 years ago. So if people didn't need paper quarters then, why do they need paper dollars now? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 18:11:08 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by AlM on Sun Mar 4 17:58:58 2012. Exactly. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 18:15:56 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 4 17:36:23 2012. I never had a problem putting bills in the machine. In order to put coins in the machine, you would need to DRAG clunky coins there to use. The only problem I have had with ticket machines is having the change returned being NUISANCE dollar coins. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 18:16:47 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 17:50:42 2012. Your fetish for forcing your preferences on others is unhealthy. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 4 18:43:05 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 18:15:56 2012. I'm sure there were times when you were given a very wrinkly bill in change somewhere, or a bill with a slight rip in it. Either of those imperfections cause vending machines to reject those bills. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 4 18:48:37 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 18:16:47 2012. Are there any countries on the planet that don't use coins in their monetary systems? If so, perhaps you should look into moving there. If not, your far fetched hatred of coins is very strange in a world dominated by coins! :-) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 4 18:51:09 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 4 18:48:37 2012. The countries with the large-denomination coins are not as free as the USA by far. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 4 19:01:20 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 4 18:51:09 2012. I was being a bit sarcastic, but my point was that as far as I know, there are no "coin-free" places in the world, and if anything it is going more the other way as time goes on. And the way I look at it, SMAZ was not "forcing his preferences" on Chris, he was just going along with the way the world is headed nowadays. But overall, nobody is "wrong" here...Chris prefers no coins while SMAZ prefers coins...but out of the two, SMAZ is the realistic one since coins are not going away anytime soon... |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Mar 4 19:05:10 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 15:21:20 2012. Good point. I empty my pockets of change each night. Who ever heard of putting dollar bills in a jar. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 19:08:25 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 4 19:01:20 2012. I don't prefer "no coins" at all. They have their place, and are a necessary evil. My gripe is only with those who want to take away dollar bills and replace them completely with coins. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 4 19:17:43 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 19:08:25 2012. Yes, but in just about all of your posts you referred to all coins as "nuisance coins". I don't know of anybody else that speaks of coins that way....but in any case it seems that countries are considering replacing bills with coins because the coins last much longer than bills, which would make it more cost effective in the long run. So if that's their reasoning, it's tough to argue with that... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 19:49:12 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 4 19:17:43 2012. It's not tough to argue with at all. First off, bills are far more convenient to use. That's why they REPLACED coins to begin with long ago. Universal credit/debit card use would completely take away the need for the government to even spend money making money, but that doesn't mean they should do that either. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 19:49:43 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 4 18:43:05 2012. So don't use that bill in the machine. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Mar 4 19:50:42 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by Charles G on Sun Mar 4 14:59:52 2012. Some currencies of major nations with currently issued banknotes worth less than USD 5.50 Russian Rubles (about $1.70) 20 Mexican Pesos (about $1.60) 2 Argentine Pesos about 46 cents) 5 Indian Rupees (about 10 cents) 1 Chinese Yuan (about 16 cents) Now I'll wait for the closet ethnocentrists here to say "well, these aren't modern western economies." |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 19:52:33 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by SLRT on Sun Mar 4 19:50:42 2012. Heh. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 19:54:10 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 19:49:12 2012. First off, bills are far more convenient to use.I can't wait for the Mint to replace dimes and quarters with 10 and 25 cent bills. They would be so much more convenient to use. Signed GP38/R42 Chris |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 19:56:13 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 19:54:10 2012. Where have I ever advocated such lunacy? Love how you have to come up with the absurd, put words in peoples mouth, to try and get your ill fated point across. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 19:57:16 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by SLRT on Sun Mar 4 19:05:10 2012. Who ever heard of putting dollar bills in a jar.The same people who would put quarters into jars 35 years ago when their value equaled today's dollar bill. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Mar 4 19:59:13 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 4 15:14:23 2012. I sometimes get 3 fives and 3 ones (for some reason, the stores around here don't have many tens). Occasionally, a ten (or 2 fives) and eight ones, if they're really having a bad day. Doesn't bother me, as I can use the singles in the vending machines at work. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 20:00:10 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 19:57:16 2012. Nope, because there's no reason to put bills in jars. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 20:01:26 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Mar 4 19:59:13 2012. Yes. But still not the same as the absurd "18 crimply bills", as the absurdity Charles posted claimed. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 4 20:12:49 2012, in response to Re: So, if the dollar bill were eliminated..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 4 19:56:13 2012. Please explain why a quarter or dime bill is lunacy but the dollar bill is not. |
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