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The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:03:56 2011

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I lost 35 pounds just by switching to diet soda. It makes regular soda (which I still drink from time to time) taste better. To be fair, I'm the kind of guy who drinks 2 liters a day.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 03:10:56 2011, in response to The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:03:56 2011.

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That's a lot of weight. Especially when I think you're someone who went from about 210 to 175(I'm guessing) as opposed to being 240 and dropping to 205.

But was it just the elimination of regular soda? I thought you were going to the gym regularly.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:13:26 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 03:10:56 2011.

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Actually it was 250 to 215. I'm trying to hit 200.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 03:13:35 2011, in response to The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:03:56 2011.

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I'm in the process of doing the same thing. Although I still probably drink too much regular soda.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 03:13:55 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:13:26 2011.

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I'm at 200, my goal is 165.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:16:34 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 03:13:55 2011.

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I figure if I get to that I'll die.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 03:24:23 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:13:26 2011.

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Still, that's a lot of weight to lose by simply eliminating regular soda.

You must be taking caution during meals as well.

My friends lost a ton of fat on the "Hunter-Gatherer Diet". They mostly eat meat, fish, and veggies. Maybe oatmeal for breakfast but no carbs other than what's in their green veggies.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 03:26:19 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 03:24:23 2011.

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I eat way too many carbs: tortilla chips, tortillas, buns, toast, pasta, sandwich bread.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:33:13 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 03:24:23 2011.

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You must be taking caution during meals as well

True. I do try to cut down on deserts and second courses and sides and such.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 03:34:09 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 03:26:19 2011.

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I love pasta primavera so I won't give up pasta.

People bash carbs, but you have to be careful once protein becomes a greater % of your intake as it too can turn to fat like unused carbs.

I have been doing retrowalking. Just walk backwards. It pumps up the front of the legs, which is the biggest muscle group and gets the heart going too.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Fred G on Sun May 8 03:53:27 2011, in response to The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:03:56 2011.

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Maybe those anti-soda-sold-in-school people are onto something.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 04:10:15 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 03:13:35 2011.

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There are tons of articles out there about diet soda being as bad as regular soda. That's why I'm surprised to hear about Spider's results.

Honestly, if it's not pure water, it's a soft drink and that's not good for the waistline.

Caffeine is another enemy. I'm down to one cup of coffee but drink a cup of tea later in the day. Let's see what happens.

Honestly, you can't go strictly by weight. You have to look at height and hip to waist to chest to shoulder ratio.

Scale means nothing. Jeans size is everything!

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 8 04:17:03 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 04:10:15 2011.

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I am off coffee completely. I do drink about two or three teas a day though. I don't drink soda anymore, except when I go out to eat, and don't have an alcoholic beverage.


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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 04:21:25 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 8 04:17:03 2011.

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Off completely?

High blood pressure?

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 04:37:16 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 04:10:15 2011.

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How is diet soda as bad as regular soda?

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 04:48:22 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 04:37:16 2011.

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I forget what ingredient in diet soda was blamed. I guess the no cal sweetener and a focus group or something like that.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 05:07:35 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 04:37:16 2011.

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btw- I've been trying a "no reps" weight routine. It's called "Optimum length training". It seems to work so far. I don't feel any pain in my knees or shoulders or lower back.

Any kind of resistance training is said to jack up the metabolism by 200 or 300 calories a day.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Fred G on Sun May 8 05:14:27 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 04:48:22 2011.

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Some sweeteners are more glycemic than others. Higher glycemic foods are less desirable not only from a sugar level, but they make you crave eating. Sorbitol and Xylitol are 2 of the better ones and Malitol is a bad one.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 05:35:22 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Fred G on Sun May 8 05:14:27 2011.

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Didn't know that.

btw- We talked about coffee before. IIRC you said that you gave up caffeine.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 8 06:06:24 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 04:21:25 2011.

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Nah, I just decided to stop drinking it.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by BMTLines on Sun May 8 06:32:09 2011, in response to The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:03:56 2011.

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I tried diet soda - I despise the taste so much that it actually makes me want to vomit. I guess THAT would make me lose weight

I quit soda and switched to coffee but that is not helping :(

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 8 07:27:07 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by BMTLines on Sun May 8 06:32:09 2011.

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I never had a weight problem, but about 10 years ago I switched to only diet soda too (when I still drank soda regularly), and for about 2 years that's all I drank if I had soda. You get used to the taste. But then one day all of a sudden I said, this tastes like crap, and went back to normal soda.....before stopping soda all together.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun May 8 08:10:11 2011, in response to The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:03:56 2011.

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Did you ever go to a buffet restaurant. The fattest people go up to the buffet 6 times but still always order a diet coke.
Actually, I can see you losing that if you drink a lot of soda. With all the diets around the only real one that works is eating less calories, even if it means counting calories. I try to substitute lower calory foods whenever I can.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Fred G on Sun May 8 08:16:37 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 05:35:22 2011.

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No I still drink coffee, black. I probably drink 4 cups a day, spread out.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Railman718 on Sun May 8 08:20:13 2011, in response to The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:03:56 2011.

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Flavored Seltzer Water>>>Diet Soda...

Thats my take..

I drink all flavors of it...

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by AlM on Sun May 8 08:28:25 2011, in response to The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:03:56 2011.

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I drank 2-3 cans of Coke a day till a year ago. Then I had a routine checkup and my blood sugar was a few points below the pre-diabetic level.

Oops. Time for a change. I'm sticking to one can a day and cutting back on other sweet stuff too. I tried diet soda but found the taste was awful. The closest I can get to a nice cold Coke is a nice really cold glass of bottled water.



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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 08:39:12 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 03:26:19 2011.

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I wonder what this guy eats. I found the video when I was searching for workout vids. He seems to have a little bit of gyno so he could be on steroids but who knows?



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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 8 09:03:08 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 8 07:27:07 2011.

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Not even seltzer?

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 8 10:37:20 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:13:26 2011.

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So you got much heavier since I last saw you?

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by JayMan on Sun May 8 12:03:01 2011, in response to The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:03:56 2011.

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I once lost 80 lbs in the space of one year by cutting out sugar (including swapping diet soda for regular soda)...

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 12:20:32 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 8 06:06:24 2011.

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I never got on to coffee. The caffeinated beverage I drink the most of is iced tea. I can drink it all day nonstop if not controlled.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 12:21:41 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 05:07:35 2011.

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How does this "Optimum length training" work?

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 12:22:35 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Fred G on Sun May 8 03:53:27 2011.

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Honestly, as an adult now, kids in school shouldn't be drinking soda. However, apparently some school/district in California has banned chocolate milk, to me, a ban of chocolate milk goes too far.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 12:23:48 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 8 07:27:07 2011.

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I'm on an 80% diet soda / 20% regular soda routine now when I drink soda. It took a while to get used to the crap taste of diet soda. However, when drinking regular sodas now I feel like I'm simply drinking a pixi stix.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 13:26:21 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 12:20:32 2011.

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Me too. I never got on coffee because I don't enjoy hot beverages.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 13:28:26 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 12:23:48 2011.

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Same thing happened to me. I can pretty much only drink diet cola though (either Coke or Pepsi) or Diet Dr. Pepper. I've never gotten used to any other diet soda.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 13:41:15 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 8 10:37:20 2011.

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Yes.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 13:41:30 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 13:41:15 2011.

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I must have weighed around 220 back then.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 15:58:47 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 12:22:35 2011.

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Why?

There could be as much sugar in a cup of chocolate milk as there is in soda. Especially if they use a syrup containing high fructose corn syrup.

If soda is banned, then all sugary drinks should be banned. It's only fair.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 16:09:56 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by JayMan on Sun May 8 12:03:01 2011.

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80 pounds? That's a lot of weight. What's up with you high IQ guys bulking up so much?

I want to lose about 12-15 pounds although my real goal is to make sure my shirt size is always a minimum of 10 inches bigger than my waist size. Body mass index is what it's all about.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 16:14:51 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 12:21:41 2011.

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You just hold the weight instead of reps. The goal is to generate force.

For example, you do a squat by squatting down to a 45 degree angle and hold it for a minute. Lay down on a bench and hold a dumbbell in each hand palm facing upward and hold it for about 30 seconds. I've tried it and it does hit the muscle group and no pain in the shoulders or knees.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 16:24:44 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 15:58:47 2011.

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Because plain milk is disgusting. If they ban all sugary drinks, they should allow plain water and seltzer as an alternative.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 16:27:12 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 16:09:56 2011.

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That's interesting. I'm sure JayMan has a theory.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun May 8 17:07:09 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 16:24:44 2011.

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Milk is just plain disgusting, flavored or not, I never touch the stuff. I'm not a baby cow. Marketed like a soft drink, reeks havoc on the digestive system (it's a food that turns into a large lump of cheese while being digested). Boiled...ummm...pasteurized to the point that they have to put vitamins back in after they boil off. It's just plain terrible for you. I only use soy milk, overpriced, but much better for you.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Easy on Sun May 8 17:21:22 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun May 8 17:07:09 2011.

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I don't mind milk although it gives me gas. I also like milkshakes and they make me nauseous.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by Charles G on Sun May 8 17:28:13 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 13:28:26 2011.

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I find Diet 7UP to be good. Unfortunately I can't find it where I am.

I gained about 20 pounds when I switched from taking the train to work to driving to work. Lost most of it after switching from regular soda to diet soda (I also drink about 2 liters per day).

Generally I am able to get to the weight I want through simply eating less and exercising more -- though I have about 10 extra pounds right now that I haven't been able to get rid of. More a case of my needing to stop being lazy about exercising than anything else I think.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by JayMan on Sun May 8 18:02:17 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 16:09:56 2011.

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That was only about a 23% loss of my body weight at the time.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun May 8 20:56:21 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by TonyG on Sun May 8 12:20:32 2011.

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I used to have coffee a lot. I switched over to tea, and just like it better now. You don't get the aftertaste like you get with coffee. I like my tea plain too, no sugar, no milk. Actually, if coffee is good, I can drink it black too. I did have coffee about two weeks ago when I went out to dinner, and the restaurant has excellent coffee, so had a cup, but that was the first time in weeks.
I also like iced tea too.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 8 21:16:47 2011, in response to Re: The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by JayMan on Sun May 8 18:02:17 2011.

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Wow. You were very heavy.

23% weight loss is significant even at that weight.

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Re: The Spider-Pig Diet

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon May 9 01:47:48 2011, in response to The Spider-Pig Diet, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 8 03:03:56 2011.

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Frozen Is Good For You

Defrost some broccoli, dip them in red pepper flakes and they're not bad.

Defrost blueberries the night before and they're ready in the morning.



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