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Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Dec 25 20:26:09 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Dec 25 20:00:31 2009. Someones a 9/10er.And it sounds like those people are in Nigeria. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Fri Dec 25 20:31:21 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 25 20:21:39 2009. Even though you insist you are not beholden to the Democrats I mean Liberals, I never for a moment doubted the inevitability of your reinstatement to the 2009 LOL. The possibility of it NOT happening never crossed my mind, not ever. It was simply a matter of time is all. I'll raise this bottle of Guinness in honor of you and bingbong for a job well done - it is a remarkable feat that can be duplicated but never surpassed. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 25 20:35:34 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by cortelyounext on Fri Dec 25 20:31:21 2009. Heh. A remarkable feat indeed since the last librul around here got eaten by a bear in the 60's. :) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Dec 25 20:36:00 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Dec 25 20:26:09 2009. And OBS should be a 12/9er. LOL |
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Posted by Charles G on Fri Dec 25 20:44:52 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Dec 25 20:25:31 2009. Why does it need to change? It makes flying more convenient. You're asking that passengers be screened twice just because they are changing planes. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Dec 25 20:54:29 2009, in response to Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 25 16:16:32 2009. Tried to blow up a jet plane with fireworks ?Not the brightest bulb in the marquee. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 25 21:04:28 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Dec 25 20:54:29 2009. that's not the point. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Dec 25 21:06:24 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 25 21:04:28 2009. The only point around here is the one at the top of your head.... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Dec 25 21:07:53 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Charles G on Fri Dec 25 20:44:52 2009. That is exactly what I am saying...screen them twice. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 25 21:10:34 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Dec 25 20:54:29 2009. Burned his mouth on the tailpipe. :) |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Dec 25 21:16:23 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Dec 25 21:07:53 2009. That is exactly what I am saying...screen them twice.The trouble is, as Charles says, that you make travel that much more onerous. And, mind you, it's a bit like eliminating the last car on the train. Seems to me that one wants proper screening at the initial boarding. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Dec 25 21:40:18 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Charles G on Fri Dec 25 18:22:13 2009. Actually, the flight originated in Nigeria, then flew to Amsterdam, and then on to Detroit.Luch, I see on Subchat that someone attacked a conductor on MN. By your line of "reasoning," no one should even use MN again because this is the second time a conductor was attacked. Let's face facts - you suffer from an irrational phobia. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 25 21:46:51 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Dave on Fri Dec 25 21:40:18 2009. That conductor was not attacked at 35,000 feet. Poor comparison Dave.Fear of flying is not irrational. I guess you didn't hear about the American Airlines plane that crashed and split in half the other day. That's four planes lost in the last year. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 25 22:15:26 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by cortelyounext on Fri Dec 25 20:31:21 2009. You better hold on to that Guinness...the centuries old Guinness Brewery burned down the other day. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 25 23:12:06 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 25 22:15:26 2009. Fortunately, it wasn't the main brewery. It was a little-used storage building where they were replacing the roof felt and a torch set it on fire. Very smoky, and a good deal of damage to the roof of that building, but the brewery itself was safe. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Dec 25 23:19:34 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 25 21:46:51 2009. >>>>Fear of flying is not irrational.<<<<Yes it is. It's also retarded, like you. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Dec 25 23:24:04 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 25 23:12:06 2009. aye! |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Dec 26 00:05:15 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by trainsarefun on Fri Dec 25 21:16:23 2009. Then what do you do about someplace like Lagos, where I bet they don't screen (or do a cursory look at them for bulging bags or pockets)? Perhaps a list of places where screening either isn't being done or being done poorly is needed so airlines know when re screening is needed. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 00:23:09 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Dec 25 23:24:04 2009. I'm one of those sick puppies who prefers Harp or Guiness piss warm. It's REALLY good that way. Like a medicinal Porter. If anything stopped my dark beer from flowing, I'd have to slit my wrists. :) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Dec 26 00:28:55 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 00:23:09 2009. I hear that's the way it's served in the EU. Me? I don't drink....beer or stout or ale. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 00:34:51 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Dec 26 00:05:15 2009. This guy took a KLM flight from Lagos to Hashishville, Nederlands. Perhaps the solution here would have been invading the EU to satisfy Olog, and everyone flies nekkid to the USA ... I'm sure Hamsterdam would have no problem with it, and they'd be giggling at the opportunity. But it was not a "thru" flight when this pax moved from a KLM flight to a Delta/NWA flight ... it's not like he stayed on the same plane.In seriousness, perhaps carriers heading TO the US might be required to do a shoe sniff and a nice body cavity search ... after all, Hamsterdamn is a place you go for SeXXX anyway, might as well go whole hog. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 00:37:59 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Dec 26 00:28:55 2009. Those are the types I tend to brew up here. Lager is a bitch to make because it requires a cold bottom ferment and I tend to make beers in the summertime. So the house brand, "Bear Whiz" tends to be Weisse, IPA, stouts and ales. But my stuff is yummy ... though I prefer lagers and pilsens as my regular drinking swill.I've come a LONG way since the Bronix where "breakfast" was either Colt45 or Old Mildewy ... heh. |
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Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Sat Dec 26 02:24:33 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Dec 26 00:05:15 2009. Nigerian civil aviation officials have a lot of explaining to do after this one. Lagos - Murtala Mohammed Airport already has a bad rep in international travel circles. That now its graduated into being the point of origin for an attempted international terrorist only makes matters worse. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Dec 26 02:34:06 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 26 00:37:59 2009. Heh, I will have to make it my point to try one. When I visit. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Dec 26 07:43:14 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 25 21:46:51 2009. What does the altitude have to do with anything? Being attacked is being attacked. A bomb on a train (e.g., England or Spain); a chemical weapon attack in the subway (Japan); or a shoe bomber on a plane...you're dead either way if the attack is successful. I can't say that hurtling along in a metal tube at 50 - 90 mph with no way out is any better than in a metal tube at 35,000 feet.Fear of flying is also called Aviophobia. It is an anxiety disorder. The fear of flying may be created by various other phobias and fears: * a fear of closed in spaces (claustrophobia), such as that of an aircraft cabin * a fear of heights (acrophobia) * a feeling of not being in control * fear of vomiting, motion sickness can make the person vomit, thus making flying hard. * fear of having panic attacks in certain places, where escape would be difficult and/or embarrassing (agoraphobia) * fear of hijacking or terrorism * fear of turbulence * fear of flying over water or night flying * fear of crashing resulting in injury or death * the result of hormone release during pregnancy * the result of difficulty with the regulation of emotion when not in control due to developmental issues. If fear of flying is not irrational, then why are there behavioral therapy treatments for it? And did you know that recent neurological research suggests that fear of flying is not the result of a single sensitizing event, but - like other affective disorders - is the result of chronic exposure to emotional dysregulation in childhood which hindered development of the right prefrontal orbito cortex, rendering it unable to carry out its executive role in the regulation of affect? Did you catch the word ** disorders ** in there, Luch? You're in good company, though - Kim Jong Il suffers from fear of flying. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 08:12:31 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Charles G on Fri Dec 25 18:22:13 2009. No idea whether passengers have to reclear security if they are transiting through Amsterdam, but security at the airport in Lagos isn't exactly known for being the best...The Dutch now say he did not go through passport control in Amsterdam. So probably he either stayed on the plane, or else stayed in a transit lounge without having to go through a search in Amsterdam. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 26 08:15:45 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 08:12:31 2009. If you are in a stoppover somewhere, while you may have to get off the plane, you are usually allowed to stay within the security zone at the airport, without having to go through it again. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 08:22:49 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Charles G on Fri Dec 25 20:44:52 2009. Well, if transiting passengers are never screened again, then the entire world's security system is only as good as its weakest link.Would you feel OK about taking a flight from Zurich to NY if you knew there were people on the plane who had flown from Teheran to Zurich and then not been subject to an additional search in Zurich? Maybe the answer is that arriving passengers from countries with dubious security get discharged outside the security barrier. After all, that already frequently happens (for Customs and Immigration reasons, not security) if you fly from overseas to the US and change to a domestic flight. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 08:25:15 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 26 08:15:45 2009. Agreed. Which makes the airport system only as safe as its weakest link. I bet that $100 goes a long way toward convincing someone in Lagos airport security that you have some special presents in your carry-on that you don't want to have subject to search. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 26 08:37:40 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Dave on Sat Dec 26 07:43:14 2009. You look foolish. Two major incidents this week in the skies, and you're defending air travel. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 08:46:50 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 26 08:37:40 2009. Two major incidents this week in the skies, and you're defending air travel.Hundreds of horrible fatal incidents on the roads this week, and you defend car travel? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 26 09:07:20 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 08:46:50 2009. It may be thousands, not hundreds.... |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Dec 26 09:39:20 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Dec 25 20:00:31 2009. The media can't even get the muzzie's name right. Anyone else get to the point that when breaking news occurs, they wait a day or two to find out or read about it? I'm tired of all the changes minute by minute.Or inaccuracies in reporting. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 09:43:15 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 26 09:07:20 2009. Between 30K and 40K fatalities per year in the US.That's about 700 per week. Even though this is a holiday week, it's probably not above average in car travel because summer is SO heavy. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Dec 26 09:49:18 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 25 21:04:28 2009. Don't see where fireworks were involved.And newkirk also made a racist comment too. He was using liquids. There's a reason you cannot have liquids in flight anymore. I know this big international news will be a shock to you nytimes americans. Probably the first you've heard of it. Yes, it's a "small firework". Watch the court video demo too. It's massive. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Dec 26 09:57:30 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Dec 26 09:39:20 2009. You're wrong; the name was known LAST night. I wonder what sources you are reading to be so ill-informed. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Dec 26 10:09:01 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 26 08:37:40 2009. Trains canceled due to weather and other passengers stuck for hours without moving. Chunnel passengers stranded under the English Channel for hours, leading several to have heart attacks. And you're defending train travel?See how foolish your argument is? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Dec 26 10:10:09 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Dec 25 18:22:52 2009. Re-correction; my original post saying Nigerian "authorities" was actually correct. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Dec 26 10:12:16 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Charles G on Fri Dec 25 20:44:52 2009. Actually, they should be re-screened even if on the same plane, if the landing occurs in a country that is different from the origin. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Dec 26 11:13:17 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Dec 26 09:57:30 2009. Last night they split his last name into 2 or three pieces(commie news network). Today it's reassembled with a first and middle name added.I'd have more, but I follow my sleep on it rule now and wait for all the pieces to get together instead of watching the ratings game of let's see who can scoop what's false first. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Dec 26 11:15:29 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Dec 26 11:13:17 2009. OTOH, I do miss those tv interviews where someone says something the station doesn't like and they never replay the clip ever again.So it's not a steadfast rule yet. Still waiting for the other 3 men at the fort hood thing to be caught you know. That's where the 9/11 conspiracies come from. BBC had advanced knowledge of the building 7? Puhleese, they were hurrying for a scoop and mucked up. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 26 11:18:06 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 09:43:15 2009. The National Safety Council estimates 317 traffic fatalities for this weekend.These estimates and a running total of such fatalities used to be a regular part of holiday weekend news broadcasts on radio. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 12:14:47 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 26 11:18:06 2009. 317 for a 3-day weekend vs. 700 for a week. How reassuring that detailed statistical estimates from the National Safety Council can be reproduced on the back of an envelope. :) |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 26 12:41:29 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 12:14:47 2009. How reassuring that detailed statistical estimates from the National Safety Council can be reproduced on the back of an envelope.Broadcasting the holiday road carnage provided shock value. It was pointed out at that time that holiday road kill was not that much different from non-holidays. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 26 13:21:35 2009, in response to Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 25 16:16:32 2009. Foreigners are the root of all evil. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 14:56:51 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Dec 26 13:21:35 2009. Ha! That's exactly what the current leaders of Iran say. No we know your political views. |
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Posted by Charles G on Sat Dec 26 15:37:42 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by Dave on Fri Dec 25 21:40:18 2009. No, the passenger originated in Nigeria. Delta doesn't fly to Lagos-Amsterdam. He flew KLM from Lagos to Amsterdam then took a Delta/Northwest flight from Amsterdam to Detroit. |
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Posted by Charles G on Sat Dec 26 15:38:51 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 08:12:31 2009. It was a different plane from Lagos-AMS than AMS-DTW. |
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Posted by Charles G on Sat Dec 26 15:41:38 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 08:22:49 2009. Would you feel OK about taking a flight from Zurich to NY if you knew there were people on the plane who had flown from Teheran to Zurich and then not been subject to an additional search in Zurich?I do that everytime I fly, and will do it again Monday morning. (Actually, I'm not sure you can fly Tehran-Zurich -- but your point is well taken). TSA signed off on Lagos security just last month. Since the advent of Schengen, this is the reality in just about every continental European airport. |
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Posted by Charles G on Sat Dec 26 15:43:01 2009, in response to Re: Terrorist Tries To Blow Up NWA Flight(Re: Oh noes! Bad news for Luch), posted by AlM on Sat Dec 26 08:22:49 2009. Maybe the answer is that arriving passengers from countries with dubious security get discharged outside the security barrier. After all, that already frequently happens (for Customs and Immigration reasons, not security) if you fly from overseas to the US and change to a domestic flight.That happens for all passengers arriving in the US. The US is one of the very few countries where this is the case. |
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