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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Nov 21 10:16:12 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Fri Nov 20 23:36:01 2009. Thank you for the info. BTW, Eric Cantor, is the only rightrous Jew in Congress. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 10:17:14 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Nov 21 10:16:12 2009. Don't you meant right wing Jew? :Dyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Nov 21 10:19:30 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 10:17:14 2009. That too. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Nov 21 10:22:58 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 10:17:14 2009. Pardon my ignorance. What does :D mean? Your pal, Chicagomotorman |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 10:34:28 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 10:14:45 2009. Of course, but it's "wikipedia". Many and most articles say something to that effect. Don't you know that going in? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 10:35:05 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Nov 21 10:22:58 2009. It's a smile with the mouth open. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Nov 21 10:36:15 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 10:35:05 2009. You learn something every day. Thank you. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 10:39:56 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 10:34:28 2009. I would say some say that but not most.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 10:40:11 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 10:34:28 2009. I would say some say that but not most.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 10:43:06 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 10:39:56 2009. Many of the political ones do. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 10:48:28 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 20 23:57:23 2009. Mostly black people show up for Jesse Jackson or Sharpton. How is it relevant?How would that not be relevant? But it's wrong. Jesse Jackson speaks to much more diverse crowds than Palin ever will. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 21 11:24:01 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 10:43:06 2009. When they do, somebody here points that out.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 11:29:18 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 08:13:36 2009. Bush did well with Hispanics b/c he was from Texas, and the voted for the hometown favorite.Bush was from Texas in 2000 too and didn't do quite as well with Hispanics as in 2004 so your argument fails. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Nov 21 11:35:14 2009, in response to Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 23:38:06 2009. Why do democrats hate women so much?First it was hillary, then palin, and every other one, then it was the death panel recommending they don't get treatment in healthcare. Sheesh, take a hike out to sea guys. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 11:56:48 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 09:57:15 2009. No, it shows that more minorities then whites can't afford the ticket prices. His example is ludicrous. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 12:30:38 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:53:45 2009. BFD. It's not like these people are trying to run them over. Also, the car I use from time to time locks the doors automatically at 20 km/h (yes, km/h all cars are designed in metric nowadays). When I had a car without auto-locking I would sometimes remember to lock the door and it wasn't necessarily when I would see "dangerous minorities" although sometimes it was near dangerous minorities (usually when I stopped at the first traffic light of my trip, regardless of the pedestrians there). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 12:35:52 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 09:53:43 2009. That's exactly the point. It hides the meaning from the people to whom its real meaning would be offensive. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Nov 21 14:02:14 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:15:58 2009. Is that Sara or Tina? I suspect Tina. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 14:07:05 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Nov 21 14:02:14 2009. Is that Sara or Tina? I suspect Tina.That's why you're DAN LAWRENCE!! |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Nov 21 14:13:54 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 21 14:07:05 2009. Contagions!! You just won an all expense trip to Brian's house. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 14:20:15 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Nov 21 14:02:14 2009. Definitely Sara's head, Tina doesn't have that eye thing going ... can't vouch for anything else. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 14:23:19 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 12:30:38 2009. Not where I was going with it ... I guess one has to be on a street corner on Moysten St and Broadway in Schenectady to truly appreciate what I meant. Some folks here know ... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 17:28:15 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 10:48:28 2009. "Well they look like a white crowd to me, it's pretty monochromatic""No surprise of the ethnic nature of the people showing up to this" "It's almost a tribal aspect, [Black] vs "other people"**    **--Chris Matthews -- MSNBC |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 17:29:22 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 11:29:18 2009. More hispanics and blacks are Democrats as opposed to Republicans. No surprise that less of either show up at Republican politician gatherings. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 17:30:47 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 12:30:38 2009. It was a pretty crappy argument according to me too. I live in a neighborhood that is probably about half African American, and drive through a neighborhood north of me evry day that is about 80-85% African American. BFD. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 17:32:53 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:15:58 2009. Nice Photoshop. christ, the liberal cartoons and photos are getting old. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 17:33:18 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Nov 21 14:02:14 2009. Do you even have to ask?Neither, it's Sarah's face on someone's body. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 17:33:49 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 17:32:53 2009. Heh. Aw c'mon ... we see you beating it. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 17:34:23 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 21 11:56:48 2009. Oh please. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 17:35:33 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Nov 21 11:35:14 2009. Democrats only like women when they are liberal or left leaning women. They can't handle conservative women. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 17:48:42 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Nov 21 14:02:14 2009. LOL! Are you that blind? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 17:49:00 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 17:33:18 2009. Right. Every single one of us except Dan got that. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:00:40 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 17:30:47 2009. OK, but that has nothing to do with what Selkirk posted. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:13:29 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:00:40 2009. He is insinuating that people driving past black people scream "roll 'em up" and click the electric locks.I don't know what that has to do with Chris Matthews saying, or what the relevance of Chris even mentioning that would be. "Well they look like a white crowd to me, it's pretty monochromatic" |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:22:54 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:13:29 2009. Insinuating? Heh. I came right and out and SAID it. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:27:35 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:13:29 2009. Yeah, but he wasn't accusing you of being a person that locks his doors, just suggesting that you haven't had doors locked on you. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:27:53 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:22:54 2009. I know. I understand what you said. but once again, true or not, I don't see the relevance to Matthews, or how that changes the "appropriateness" of Chris Matthews:"Well they look like a white crowd to me, it's pretty monochromatic" |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:29:43 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:27:35 2009. I know, I can read you know! :)But again, the relevance to the appropriateness of Chris Matthew's quotes is what I don't understand, or how that should make Matthews warranted in saying such drivel. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:32:47 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:27:53 2009. True ... but like every other thread in this place, it was a bottom yellow and a diverge ... I felt the point needed to be made. Matthews is a dick, he's ALWAYS been a dick, and lacks the ability to ad-lib when there's no words on his lens. But all the hoohah over it serves to make it all go away. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:34:46 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:27:35 2009. Precisely. As someone who was not used to it, came as a surprise how frequent it was. My buddy and his wife just giggled. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:36:26 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:29:43 2009. Perhaps we can put that question in republican terms ... :)
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:38:29 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:32:47 2009. Fair enough. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:46:54 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:34:46 2009. Oh, trust me....I know exactly. I guess living here makes me immune to noticing "other people", as I am so used to it. I have no problem walking through "mixed" neighborhoods, going to stores where "I" am the minority, etc. But I know full well there are many that aren't like that, and "freak". Most people from a "lily white" neighborhood would freak at the deli I get my bacon/egg/cheese sandwich at sometimes.And yes, it can bring a "giggle" when I think of certain people I know if they would "walk in" how they would react. It's funny, I remember the first time I stayed in New Orleans, I had a hotel (Radisson) way way way down Canal St over by I10, and that is sort of on the "out skirts" of where the tourist area ends, and you have to remember that New Orleans, since the slave days is about 80% black. Well, to get to "Bourbon St", or the French Quarter, or the Riverfront, or any of the tourist parts people come to NO for, you had to walk down Canal St for some blocks (or take the hotel shuttle bus). We often chose to walk, which was fine, but I can just imagine some "tourist" from let's say "Sayville, NY" (a fairly lily white area) and dropped them down on that stretch of Canal St..... I can smirk just thinking about it.... I SAW some older tourists walking out the front door of the hotel, freaking out, and running into the shittle bus to the French QUarter as fast as they could. They obviously didn't know what "New Orleans" was like, lol.... Hey, it is funny....it's all what people are used to. Personally, I think the race relations in NO was way better than many other places I have been. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:47:10 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:29:43 2009. Then why did you respond this way if you didn't think that he was accusing you?Yes, I click my car doors locked every day as I drive through my neighborhood. What SHIT. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:49:57 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:46:54 2009. That was the thing for me ... I grew up in the Bronx. I was used to people locking up and sealing with tape long before they hit the borough line. Heh. But my buddy was busting my chops BECAUSE I was from da Bronx and had to explain to him that even there, it didn't happen. :) |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:55:09 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:46:54 2009. New Orleans did/does have a really high violent crime rate. You guys should have been more smart. I have a (white) cousin that was walking around a non-touristy area of DC at night when they were robbed at gunpoint. After getting the money one of the robbers shot my cousins buddy in the face and killed him. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 18:58:17 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:47:10 2009. Because I just used myself as an example. I didn't understand the relevance to the Mattews clip, or why that would have any indication that would make it "alright" for Chris to say such dickwad remarks.But I think we have talked it through in another post, no sense continuing, as the conversation about the "roll em up" is sort of done. Read Selkirk's and my exchange, no sense rehashing it all again. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 19:02:10 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:55:09 2009. We were walking on Canal St. It's a busy street. It was a Radisson Hotel (now out of business after the hurricane, but that's another story) a "few blocks" from the tourist area. It's not like we were walking through "the hood". It was Canal St. If you don't know Canal St (or the upper end of Canal St a few blocks from the heart of the French Quarter, I can't explain it, but it looked (before the hurricane) sort of like Jamaica Ave did in the 1980's. Not necessarily "bad", but seedy, mostly black. A white person is a minority in New Orleans. Everywhere. Especially just outside the touristy areas. It's not like we were walking through the 9th Ward in the middle of "the hood". |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 19:02:12 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:27:35 2009. I was arguing that having had the doors locked on you is not significant. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 19:05:34 2009, in response to Re: Chris Matthews MSNBC: Palin Supporters Are White Racists, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 19:02:10 2009. I don't have time to do it now, as I am on my way out the door, but pull up "1500 Canal St" in google maps and look at the street view. It will put you right in front of the "abandoned" old Radison Hotel, that is now boarded up, it closed after the flood. Then pan towards the river.It's hard to compare to the "pre hurricane" scene there, as these images are afterwards, and not many people around anymore :( but even now, it's not "THAT" bad. Canal St was seedy before the flood, but was on the "rebound" when I first stayed there. Unfortunately, that "rebound" was hindered terribly by the flood, and the subsequent loss of people. |
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