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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:28:19 2009, in response to Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:25:05 2009. I haven't used a VCR in almost a decade. The old VCR has been in storage for nearly that long. |
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Posted by docstox on Thu Nov 19 13:44:08 2009, in response to Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:25:05 2009. I still am using VHS tape on a 21 year old cheap ass VCR.I know I am light years behind the modern systems, but I can get 3 or 4 classic films on a VHS tape I pay 1.50 for.I have at least 1000 old classics taped.I just like the way tape works.My earliest tapes from 1982 are still looking and playing great.I guess someday the logical solution would be to convert via a burner to DVD all the material I have. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 19 14:12:16 2009, in response to Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:25:05 2009. Guess you'll have to enlarge your carbon footprint and leave the box on when you want to record a show. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 14:18:36 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 19 14:12:16 2009. Thanks for the positive spin. I've been looking for ways to increase my carbon footprint. Every day another douche adopts carbon neutral lifestyle choices and I feel I am not doing enough to totally cancel it out. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 14:28:29 2009, in response to Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:25:05 2009. Wow....I remember that from when i used to have Time Warner.... I forgot all about that until you mentioned it! I haven't lived in the city for about 14 years or so....so that's the last time I used it.I don't use the VCR anymore, but I can still record programs on TV's that don't have a box at all.....but of course, only those channels that don't need a box to come in, which are less and less. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 14:40:13 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 14:18:36 2009. A DVR increases your carbon footprint! It runs 24/7 and has a drive that has to spin all of that time. |
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Posted by busdude2 on Thu Nov 19 14:44:01 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by docstox on Thu Nov 19 13:44:08 2009. Yes but those tapes will degrade with time or even break on rewinding with time. |
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Posted by Dan on Thu Nov 19 15:29:21 2009, in response to Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:25:05 2009. I have TWC (Staten Island) too. I just tried using the "reminders" feature of my cable box as a work-around. But it doesn't work like the old vcr timer feature.The "reminder" will change to box to a desired channel at a desired time, but only if the box is ON. So you might as well just leave the box on to your desired taping channel and set up your VCR timer accordingly. I still use my VCR mostly for simple time-shifting recording or to recored the occasional movie off, usually off of TCM. We are still getting some analog channels unscrambled: unscram_channel, service, real_channel_num 2 WCBS 2 3 WCBS 2 6 CSPAN1 70 7 WNYE 25 8 WNYW 5 9 WWOR 9 10 WABC 7 11 WPIX 11 12 WNBC 4 13 WNET 13 17 WTBS 17 18 TVGUIDE 21 WLIW 21 31 WPXN(ION) 31 41 WXTV 41 47 WNJU 47 50 FOOD 50 55 WLNY 55 60 SHOPPING 63 WMBC 63 68 SPANISH 68 71 OTB 71 72 TRAFFIC CAMS 93 73 NYCITY 73 74 NYCITY 73 75 CUNY 75 78 COLOR BARS 99 NY-1 1 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 19 16:53:54 2009, in response to Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:25:05 2009. Analog cable output begins disappearing next year anyway. All cable systems must be rid of it by 2013. While I haven't turned on my antique JVC VCR in well over two years now, it did have a submenu and a little LED thingy on a wire that could be stuck on the front of the cable box to allow the VCR to operate the box in similar fashion to this "feature" that's about to go away. It'd even punch in the channel to record from for you.But seriously ... VCR? Do you still have a victrola? 87 year old mom-in-law has DVDR technology. :) |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Nov 19 17:59:28 2009, in response to Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:25:05 2009. They have to be Indian, the US government likes it that way. Most of my coworkers are Indian...in India. Every Pelosi/Obama bill that goes through makes my job in the US less attractive for my employer.Actually, the only thing saving my job is the weak dollar. Anyway, I gots a VCR. It's in the pile of electronics for my future musuem. DVR boxes are really nice. Only thing I don't like about them is it's not permanent like a tape, and the space fills up. Otherwise it's perfect for the lazy, or simple recording. I suppose there's always leaving the box on overnight, but w/o changing the channels. That's how It used to be done. |
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Posted by docstox on Thu Nov 19 18:55:43 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by busdude2 on Thu Nov 19 14:44:01 2009. Absolutely right, so burning on to DVD is definitely in the future.It should keep me busy for weeks with all the tapes I've accumulated taping classic movies since 1982. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 18:57:33 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Nov 19 17:59:28 2009. Only thing I don't like about them is it's not permanent like a tape, and the space fills up.Then dump the crappy cable company DVR and get a TiVo. Then burn your recordings to DVD, or leave them on a computer hard drive. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Nov 19 19:14:40 2009, in response to Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:25:05 2009. I have two VCR's and neither is attached to a TV. I haven't used a VCR in at least 5 years and maybe 10. But I never did record much TV. There's really not much on TV that stands out for me that I would want to record other than sports. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Nov 19 20:21:21 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 18:57:33 2009. Unless something changed, you can record from DVR to DVD with the proper set up.Still an extra step though other than going directly to VCR. it's 2009, i'm american. I don't do things that require more than ONE button! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 20:24:26 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Nov 19 20:21:21 2009. Unlikely. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Nov 19 21:39:23 2009, in response to Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:25:05 2009. thats why i dont have cable |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Nov 20 05:49:19 2009, in response to Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:25:05 2009. VCR? I remember those. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Nov 20 05:52:14 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Nov 19 21:39:23 2009. you don't have cable cause you can't afford it |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 20 23:24:08 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Nov 20 05:52:14 2009. No, that was not implied in his statement. All he said was he doesn't have cable. There are other ways to acquire a TV signal.I don't have cable, but I could have satellite. Assuming cable costs about as much as satellite, how could I not afford cable if I do have satellite? |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 20 23:28:59 2009, in response to Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:25:05 2009. I'm a VCR user. However, I don't see any advantage to using a DVR, except for replacing dozens of VHS tapes with a seemingly capacious, but rapidly filling hard drive. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Nov 20 23:31:09 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 20 23:24:08 2009. He has stated as much in the past. He's strictly OTA |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 00:01:36 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 20 23:24:08 2009. Satellite is a MUCH better deal ... quality is far superior as well. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 00:04:10 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 20 23:28:59 2009. One of these days I'm going to have to transfer all my tapes and burn them onto dvds.I'm 'backwards' in the sense that I still would 'tape' things if I can't watch it. Plus one scratch on a DVD, and you're pretty much screwed. Sure, I know, a tape will wear out over time and can also be scratched up, but I kinda trust the tape more than the disk. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 00:14:47 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 20 23:24:08 2009. "cable" nowadays usually implies satellite as well except where by the context it clearly doesn't (eg I hate the cable company!). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 00:16:55 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 20 23:28:59 2009. You obviously don't know how a DVR works then. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Nov 21 15:46:57 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 00:04:10 2009. I have hundreds of video cassettes in storage that need to be transferred. I had started on the project late last year, using an old VCR that my mom no longer needed and gave to me, which I hooked up to the input ports of my DVD recorder, but after going through about 20 or so, the VCR crapped out (I think the heads went, as the tape would play, but there was noise every few seconds. The record heads had already gone bad a few years earlier, which is why my mom had stopped using it). So that was the end of that. Then, earlier this year, the DVD recorder itself died (after only 1 1/2 years of service) :( I may eventually get one of those VCR/DVD combos where you can record internally, but many of those now only take input from cable boxes w/ RCA inputs (rather than a coax line driect from the cable), so if I got one of those, I could transfer from VHS to DVD, but wouldn't be able to record from the cable. (I refuse to get BOMBcast's digital service, I'm holding out until I absolutely have no choice). But then again, I can't record now anyway, and most of the shows I watch can be seen online anyway, so... I just worry about how long they'll continue to sell the VHS/DVD combos. I have another problem in that I need to transfer my audio cassettes to mp3. I have one of those ION turntables to transfer vinyl to mp3 (though I haven't gotten around to hooking it up to the computer yet), and it has a line input for a cassette deck, the problem now is finding one. Unlike the VHS/DVDs which I've seen at Target and other places, no one seems to have cassette decks anymore, I may have to end up finding one online. It's sad when technology passes you by :( |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 15:58:25 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 18:57:33 2009. Tivo costs money. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 15:59:05 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Dan on Thu Nov 19 15:29:21 2009. I am doing the same thing. It's very annoying. I'm not used to leaving a box ON before turning my TV off. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 16:00:16 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 20 23:28:59 2009. DVR's are good for the stuff you want to record when you cannot watch it live once or twice. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Nov 21 16:49:10 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 20:24:26 2009. i guess my dvd's are imaginary |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Nov 21 16:51:30 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Nov 21 16:49:10 2009. though I can't remember last time or if i even have them anyway.I've wondered if it's cheaper to just get your favorite show on dvd than bother with cable sometimes. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:02:29 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Nov 21 16:51:30 2009. though I can't remember last time or if i even have them anyway.I think that your TV is imaginary. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 18:04:00 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 15:58:25 2009. Yes, but it's totally worth it! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 18:05:37 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 16:00:16 2009. No. They're good for the stuff you want to record when you can't watch it live all the time. Having had a DVR for almost 10 years, I no longer know when the shows (non-sports) that I want to watch are actually on and I can always have TV time when I want it instead of having to have it at 8/7 Central. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:24:07 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 18:02:29 2009. He watches on a zoetrope. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:30:54 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 18:04:00 2009. Even MORE worth it is a dedicated video server with 4 terrabytes of hard disk and 1790 movies on it with room to spare. More expense, a lot more work but worth every bit of it ... nothing worth keeping has ever been deleted ... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 18:58:46 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:30:54 2009. It might be to a former TV engineer who has the skills but it's not for the common person. Where do you get your program guide data?Although thanks to TiVo ToGo I could download the videos to a "video server" running any OS I wanted with as much storage as I wanted and could provide within that OS. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 19:07:07 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Nov 21 15:46:57 2009. Yup very sad. Shame the DVD Recorder crapped out like that. As dated as a VCR is, at least you can get a good 5-6 years out of it [3-4 if you use it like almost everyday like i do*]. I just wonder how much space a 6hour tape uses? And when transfering stuff from a tape to a dvd/hard drive, can you select what stuff you want on that 'file' or does the entire thing go in 'as is'?*record something, watch it and either keep the show or tape over it again. funny enough I've taped/watched practically every documentary type shows now that I find myself with no need to record anything anymore [unless it's a new show]. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 19:10:54 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 18:30:54 2009. Wow, that's impressive. Question: how much size, in MB terms, is 6hours worth of programming? And does it depend on the program or are they all the same? ie: sports [where there's constant motion] vs some documentary [where there isn't as much motion] |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 19:12:17 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 21 15:59:05 2009. I leave the box on all the time, and very rarely do i turn it off. But yeah, one of these days I'm going to shut them down for periods of time so they don't overheat. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 19:14:44 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Nov 21 16:51:30 2009. If you mean like HBO stuff, and you don't really care about all the movies they air, then I would guess you are better off getting the DVDs.As for other shows, I guess it depends how much a season box set costs. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 19:20:06 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 18:58:46 2009. Heh. Actually had to go and look it up in the config file since I wrote the script for it over three years ago. My source for listings is imdb/tvgrid ... and no, it's actually not difficult at all. Doing what I did with 8 UHF channel modulators and all the gear for the house distribution system may be a wee challenge for many, but setting up the video server itself is actually a walk in the park.There's a nice Windows proggie that I ported to BSD for my purposes (writing the driver for the tuner card was the sole nightmare) called "MediaPortal" ... it's FREE! If you won't want to feed the signal into a modulator, then you just take the DV video output and audio connectors from the computer and plug them into a digital TV or monitor. MediaPortal comes with a shitload of plugins and customizations. If you've got an old Winders box sitting around that does at least 2 Ghz and about 1 gig or more of silicon, ANYBODY can do it ... only thing not normally resident in an old Winders box is the tuner card and a big enough hard disk ... but check into MediaPortal - I'm still using the older version along with a bunch of streaming tricks and networking added so that ANY computer in the house can watch anything you want as long as the TV channel on 18 here ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 19:34:17 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 19:10:54 2009. Unlike tape which spools off at a regular rate regardless of what's recording, digital size is strictly a function of the quality of recording and how much motion is in it overall. You get a space savings if the original is letterboxed, has lots of fixed scenery or limited action sequences. Screen elements that don't change don't need to be refreshed until they DO change to give you an idea of how compression works.I do all of my recordings in MPEG2 (same data format as a DVD) and will take things I've recorded and don't intend to watch much and "archive" those to MP4 (Apple-like) format. A 2 hour movie typically comes in at around 3 gigabyes in MPEG2, some can end up around 6 GB, about 1 gigabyte in MP4 format. 1080p HD tends to eat between 16 and 24 GB for 2 hours worth. Sports is particularly hungry, but I don't do that. My server can play ANY format presented. That's why I have 4000 gigabytes of hard disk on it. Megabytes is out of the question unless you wanna fill the drive with one commercial. :) |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 20:15:53 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 19:34:17 2009. Interesting, thanks for the idea of how it works. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 20:22:03 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 19:07:07 2009. The VCR I have was purchased in 1989. It still works. It was used regularly until the mid 2000s. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 20:42:29 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 20:22:03 2009. Cool. The two that i used up till recently started breaking down and i think it's the 'motors'. Now i'm using a vcr-dvd combo to tape programs. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 21:01:00 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 20:15:53 2009. Digital is neat ... but if many channels are running sports, you can watch the picture freeze on other channels with cable when the bandwidth runs out. :) |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 21:07:32 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 21:01:00 2009. Ugh, yup the 'pixelating'. I hate it when a show just freezes at moments at a time. That really pisses me off. It's even worse if the show is only airing once. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 21 21:09:47 2009, in response to Re: Time Warner Cable tells VCR owners to go to hell, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 21:07:32 2009. Another reason why I chucked cable a long time ago ... |
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