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Posted by fordhamroad22 on Tue Nov 17 20:19:15 2009 Can anyone who knows of one recommend the most highly detailed/accurate map of the five boroughs and the neighborhoods that divide them? Yahoo maps does a pretty decent job, but I am wondering if I could find better.-fordhamroad |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Nov 17 20:49:37 2009, in response to New York Neighborhoods, posted by fordhamroad22 on Tue Nov 17 20:19:15 2009. I like to use the handy Hagstrom maps. They give neighborhood names and zip codes. For online maps.....Mapquest is not bad. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 17 21:20:55 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Nov 17 20:49:37 2009. That won't work for Brooklyn, Bronx, or Manhattan, as the zip code lines don't divide those neighborhoods. There are no "official" neighborhood lines for those boroughs in Hagstroms. Unlike Queens which is divided by zip code, officially. The same is not true of the other boroughs. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 17 21:30:55 2009, in response to New York Neighborhoods, posted by fordhamroad22 on Tue Nov 17 20:19:15 2009. I don't know how detailed or accurate you want but all kinds of maps came up on a generic google search. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 08:25:52 2009, in response to New York Neighborhoods, posted by fordhamroad22 on Tue Nov 17 20:19:15 2009. I don't think you would find one on a single website. Better look for one by doing a search of each borough separately. I think I was saw one for Brooklyn but I forget which website it was, but I think it was one of the Brooklyn ones. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 18 08:33:34 2009, in response to New York Neighborhoods, posted by fordhamroad22 on Tue Nov 17 20:19:15 2009. Wikipedia, "Brooklyn Neighborhoods," "Bronx Neighborhoods," etc. Then look at the individual pages for text descriptions of the boundaries. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 08:35:52 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 08:25:52 2009. I don't think you would find one on a single website.False. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 08:39:30 2009, in response to New York Neighborhoods, posted by fordhamroad22 on Tue Nov 17 20:19:15 2009. Can anyone who knows of one recommend the most highly detailed/accurate map of the five boroughs and the neighborhoods that divide them?Sure thing, champ. I use this particular website quite often: City of Neighborhoods While it is divided into community boards and not boundaries, the neighborhood names are listed in the general areas of each neighborhood. I hope this is a help to you. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 18 09:52:39 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 08:39:30 2009. Yeah I agree. That's probabaly the best map of neighborhoods around. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 09:54:08 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 18 09:52:39 2009. I only post the best here :) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 10:27:27 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 08:35:52 2009. Saw the web site you posted. Don't agree. It doesn't show neighborhood boundaries which I believe is what he was asking for. It shows Community Board boundaries and the neighborhoods within them but no boundaries. The map I was thinking of if I could find it showed actual boundaries for neighborhoods of Brooklyn. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 10:35:49 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 10:27:27 2009. Still looking, but check out this one in the mean time. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 18 10:41:51 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 10:27:27 2009. Saw the web site you posted. Don't agree. It doesn't show neighborhood boundaries which I believe is what he was asking for. It shows Community Board boundaries and the neighborhoods within them but no boundaries. The map I was thinking of if I could find it showed actual boundaries for neighborhoods of Brooklyn.Boundaries of neighborhoods have always been subject to dispute and controversy and have moved over the decades unless there is an actual geographical barrier (river, creek, etc). No such map will ever exist. That link is about as good as it gets. It was only a few weeks ago that we had a thread here over the boundary between LIC and Astoria. Neigborhoods tend to bleed into each other with common buffer areas that are subject to any individual resident's or business's preference. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 10:54:54 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 18 10:41:51 2009. Thanks. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 11:08:02 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 18 10:41:51 2009. FALSE! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:32:44 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 11:08:02 2009. Not the one I was thinking of but pretty good. The one I saw was in color and had many of the smaller neighborhoods too. Wish I could find it now. And yes, there will always be some dispute as to where some neighborhoods end and others begin. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Nov 18 12:17:23 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:32:44 2009. This looks pretty good...nd it's clickable once you open it: Get to it here: nyc neighborhood map |
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Posted by fordhamroad22 on Wed Nov 18 14:41:21 2009, in response to New York Neighborhoods, posted by fordhamroad22 on Tue Nov 17 20:19:15 2009. Thanks for the help so far. Though I know that there is no obvious formal neighborhood boundary system, a feature, once again like yahoo maps, that was very exact is to what it believed were the boundaries would be convenient. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Nov 18 15:34:19 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 17 21:20:55 2009. That's interesting. I always wondered, well not always, but I always wondered why mailing addresses for businesses in Queens often use the quote unquote neighborhood rather than the borough like the other counties. Maybe the other boroughs use that protocal but I have not seen it. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 16:00:55 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by ntrainride on Wed Nov 18 12:17:23 2009. I believe this link was already posted. I believe the site I posted today at 10:27:27 mentions more neighborhoods but unfortunately doesn't come with a map. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 16:04:27 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Nov 18 15:34:19 2009. I heard Staten Island used to as well. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 16:13:43 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 11:32:44 2009. Found the map I was thinking of. Will post the link when I get home. Can't do it now. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 16:24:28 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 18 10:41:51 2009. It was only a few weeks ago that we had a thread here over the boundary between LIC and Astoria.Queens is easy, as it's neighborhoods are divided by zip code (with a few exceptions). That is not the case for Manhattan, Brooklyn, or the Bronx, where the boundaries are traditional rather than formal. Queens' boundaries are pretty formal. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 16:25:32 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by ntrainride on Wed Nov 18 12:17:23 2009. That is not neighborhoods, that is community boards and districts. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 18 16:27:53 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 16:24:28 2009. I still don't understand why you keep saying that considering that the neighborhoods were there long before zip codes. Just because the USPS says those are the neighborhood boundaries doesn't necessarily make it so. I would never trust the USPS for that kind of accuracy. They often don't even get city borders correct, much less neighborhoods. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 17:38:42 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 16:13:43 2009. This is it. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 17:42:55 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by fordhamroad22 on Wed Nov 18 14:41:21 2009. Look at my post today at Wed Nov 18 17:38:42 2009. It has the link for the Brooklyn neighborhood maps. You can easily find the other boroughs. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 17:48:08 2009, in response to New York Neighborhoods, posted by fordhamroad22 on Tue Nov 17 20:19:15 2009. From City Planning Dept:Link |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 18 18:01:28 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 16:24:28 2009. Queens is easy, as it's neighborhoods are divided by zip code (with a few exceptions). That is not the case for Manhattan, Brooklyn, or the Bronx, where the boundaries are traditional rather than formal. Queens' boundaries are pretty formal.I disagree. A zip code map is OK in the absence of anything else but it consolidates small neigborhoods and breaks up larger ones and omits others altogether. An example below:  |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 18:21:57 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods - City Map, posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 17:48:08 2009. Link doesn't show neighborhood boundaries. The one I posted does. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:25:02 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods - City Map, posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 17:48:08 2009. Huh????Re: New York Neighborhoods (525678) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:26:43 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by ntrainride on Wed Nov 18 12:17:23 2009. Um, Re: New York Neighborhoods (525678) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 18 18:32:02 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Nov 18 15:34:19 2009. I always wondered, well not always, but I always wondered why mailing addresses for businesses in Queens often use the quote unquote neighborhood rather than the borough like the other counties.The present day Borough of Queens was a collection of towns and villages up until 1898 and these villages remained seperated by large swaths of undeveloped farm land up until the subways and cars took care of that. The proud ancient village names live on as neighboorhoods and people rightfully don't want that to change. It's the same in Staten Island. Brooklyn was already it's own city with a rich tradition in 1898 and Manhattan and The Bronx were contiguous with the then-NYC. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 18:41:21 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Nov 18 15:34:19 2009. I never understood that either, why in Queens you say:Mr John Smith 666 Steinway St Astoria, NY 113XX as opposed to Mr John Smith 666 Steinway St Queens, NY 113XX But you do the opposite in Manhattan, Brookly, and the Bronx You will never see Mr John Smith 666 Myrtle Ave Bushwick, NY 112XX But instead: Mr John Smith 666 Myrtle Ave Brooklyn, NY or never Mr John Smith 666 East 4th St Greenwich Village, NY 100XX but instead Mr John Smith 666 East 4th St New York, NY 100XX |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 18:41:35 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods - City Map, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:25:02 2009. He means that within each Community Board, there are several neighborhoods whose boundaries are not indicated. This is true in both your and my posted maps. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 18:44:20 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 18 18:32:02 2009. I don't know if that's the reason though. Neighborhood names are clear cut in Queens. They are divided up by zip code. If you are in 11379, you are in Middle Village, and so forth.However, the same is not true in Manhattan, Bronx, and Brooklyn. Zip codes do NOT divide up neighborhoods by their lines in those boroughs. One zip code could contain 2 or 3 "neighborhoods", and one neighborhood name can sometime be in 2 or even 3 zip codes. I don't know enough about Staten Island to comment. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 18:47:11 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 18:41:21 2009. Very simple. Queens's neighborhoods were, until joined to NY, parts of 4 separate cities, and before that separate villages, to which the Post Office assigned individual names (and later, Zip codes). Each neighborhood in Queens has a strong individual historic identity. Until 1898, Queens included Nassau -- each town in Nassau has its own P.O. designation.Brooklyn's neighborhoods were all part of the unitary City of Brooklyn. The Bronx was originally part of the Manhattan P.O., and in Manhattan, again, all neighborhoods were part of the main City P.O. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:47:52 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods - City Map, posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 18:41:35 2009. Huh?????? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 18:49:11 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 18:44:20 2009. The reason, as SMAZ and I pointed out, was the neighborhoods in Queens started out as separate political entities. Those in Manhattan, Bronx and Brooklyn did not. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 18:49:35 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 18 16:27:53 2009. Just because the USPS says those are the neighborhood boundaries doesn't necessarily make it so.Uhhh, they do in Queens. if you are in Middle Village, you are in 11379. Clear cut, for all lof Queens. (with a few rare exceptions, such as Ridgewood/Glendale, which share 11385, but that is because of the quirky fact that Ridgewood used to be served out of the Brooklyn Post office, even though in Queens, but that is a whole other topic, and an anormality there). So yes, Queens is divided up by zip code, which is also the divisions of neighborhood. CLEAR CUT. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 18:53:08 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 09:54:08 2009. Click on CB8 on your map. There are 6 neighborhoods shown without boundaries between them. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 18:53:09 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 18 18:01:28 2009. That's not a real Queens map. Use a real one. A lot of the names on there are defunct names. For example, "Fresh Pond Junction", "Steinway", etc. Doesn't exit. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 18:53:29 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods - City Map, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:47:52 2009. Click on CB8 on your map. There are 6 neighborhoods shown without boundaries between them. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 18 18:54:36 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 18:49:35 2009. If it's clear cut why have some Queens residents on subchat disagreed over neighborhood boundaries? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 18:56:24 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 18 18:54:36 2009. It's not clear cut. Many residents of what is officially East Elmhurst say they live in Jackson Heights, for example. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 18:56:27 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods - City Map, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 18:47:52 2009. Italian is right. That map you posted doesn't work. It's a community board map, not a neighborhood map.For example, Community Board 5 contains Many neighborhoods, such as Ridgeweood, Glendale, Maspeth, Middle Village, etc. Bushwick is in two separate community boards depending on where you are, and so forth. Can't go by "community board" lines, as it doesn't give you the neighborhood boundaries. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 18:57:25 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 17:38:42 2009. That one is very accurate for Brooklyn. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 19:00:21 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 18:49:11 2009. This is true, but while the towns and villages were seperate entities, the "neighborhoods" were not. For example, you would be in the town of "Newtown" if you lived in Glendale, but you didn't have your own government in Glendale. It would be similar to how let's say Nassau and Suffolk are cut up. You can live in "Hicksville", which is a neighborhood, but you are in the Town of Oyster Bay, in the county of Nassau. (Of course, that used to be Queens, but that's another topic). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 19:04:42 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 18 16:13:43 2009. Good, but IMO the Midwood/Sheepshead Bay boundary is too far north. I wouldn't consider it Sheepshead Bay north of Avenue U. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 18 19:04:48 2009, in response to Re: New York Neighborhoods, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 18 19:00:21 2009. Fine, but Hicksville has its own Zip Code. The Queens neighborhoods were more clear cut as separate villages than those in Brooklyn, where as SMAZ pointed out, there was less open space between them. |
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