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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 17 17:37:31 2009 Link HereFlorida, home of the South Beach Diet, didn't do so well. The northern liberal states of course, do very well. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 17:46:53 2009, in response to The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 17 17:37:31 2009. Socialized medicine and benefit cards work! :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 17 18:02:46 2009, in response to The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 17 17:37:31 2009. It's cuz we're closer to Canada :Dyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 17 18:15:39 2009, in response to The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 17 17:37:31 2009. Rhode Island smokes the most yet is the smallest state? Hmm, it probably smells like a huge ashtray over there. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 18:25:00 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 17 18:15:39 2009. They also USED TO have (semi-)legalized prostitution until last month. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Nov 17 20:02:05 2009, in response to The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 17 17:37:31 2009. Vermont scores as #1 ?Must be the maple syrup ! Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 20:10:46 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Nov 17 20:02:05 2009. That, along with fear of Dr. Governator ... You WILL drink your milk! |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Nov 17 20:27:22 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 20:10:46 2009. Howard Dean's maple syrup must have alcohol in it!Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 17 20:29:35 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 17 18:25:00 2009. They still celebrate V-J day. Oh, and calf roping in a rodeo setting is illegal.your pal, Buddy |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 17 20:39:17 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 17:46:53 2009. I think the problem with Florida is the hot sun, ridiculous amounts of fast food available, and southern style foods. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 20:47:40 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Nov 17 20:27:22 2009. Heh. From the look of that picture, I'd say methamphetamine ... :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 21:04:40 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 17 20:39:17 2009. Or perhaps it's all the "Hey Bubba, hold my beer, watch THIS!" episodes. :) |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 18 08:47:35 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 17 20:29:35 2009. They still celebrate V-J day. Oh, and calf roping in a rodeo setting is illegal.And it was legal to shoot anyone from Massachusetts on sight until 1987. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 18 09:18:32 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 17 18:15:39 2009. Rhode Island smokes the most yet is the smallest state? Hmm, it probably smells like a huge ashtray over there.And I thought that was just the fire and brimstone pouring out of the governor's mouth at an anti-gay marriage rally. Actually, I think the list is top and bottom ten most improved since 1990 (and is based on per capita prevalence of smoking). Rhode Island ranked 48th (with 1 being the best) in 1990, when 34% of the population over age 18 smoked; in 2009, Rhode Island ranks 16th with 17.3% of the population smoking. The most smokers per capita are in West Virginia. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 18 13:46:42 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 17:46:53 2009. No, wealth does. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 18 15:47:09 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 18 08:47:35 2009. Hahahaha!!! It's MASSHOLE season!As for the calf roping, I found that out at a rodeo I went to in 94 in Charlestown :P your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 16:05:46 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 18 15:47:09 2009. But no more legal prostitutes for the massholes. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 18 17:00:17 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 18 13:46:42 2009. Dewd ... taking that seriously? Tsk-tsk ... besides ... if it's wealth you want, you'll have to go to China. They have it now. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 18 18:02:32 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 16:05:46 2009. The place has gone downhill.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 18 19:51:38 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 18 15:47:09 2009. Hahahaha!!! It's MASSHOLE season!Mass had a reciprocal law, too, Made it challenging to cross the line into Seekonk to save on salex tax. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 16:30:01 2009, in response to The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 17 17:37:31 2009. Well, after three weeks of not being Florida, taking daily 45 min walks, and eating toasted oats for breakfast regularly, my blood pressure is about 125/84. It was 135/90 before. Some readings are 121-122/85.So the systolic came right down. The diastolic is harder to manipulate. I'm going to stick to this plan for 12 weeks, to see what happens. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 16:32:23 2009, in response to The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 17 17:37:31 2009. Affluent, not liberal. Healthy eating is a luxury most poor and lower middle class families cannot afford. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 16:32:48 2009, in response to The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 17 17:37:31 2009. The northern liberal states of course, do very well.Affluent, not liberal. Healthy eating is a luxury most poor and lower middle class families cannot afford. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 16:37:59 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 16:32:48 2009. Healthy food isn't any more expensive than unhealthy food is it? People don't have to shop at Whole Foods or buy organic to eat healthy. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 16:41:07 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 16:32:48 2009. Healthy eating is not a luxury. I eat Trader Joe's O's, with Trader Joe's 2% milk, almonds, and raisins. For lunch, it's skim mozzarella on whole grain bread to make a grilled cheese sandwich, with a side salad.Dinner is 2 servings of pasta with grilled peppers. Or something like that. Anyone can afford this. You should go to Trader Joe's on Woodhaven and Metropolitan. The prices are great, and it's no more than 2 miles from your home. Walking costs nothing. The Florida lifestyle fucking sucks for me. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 16:42:36 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 16:41:07 2009. You can walk in Florida if you want as well. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 16:48:04 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 16:37:59 2009. I actually gained weight eating at Whole Foods.The organic apples and potatoes are good for you. So is the quinoa. But Trader Joe's is a very blue collar healthy eating option. Believe it or not, eating the same thing daily, will help you lose weight. That's why bodybuilders do it. Once you find the right calorie count, the weight comes off. How about my peanut butter and lettuce sandwiches? I love them. And walking daily is free. In one walk, I went from Metropolitan and Park Lane to Jamaica Ave and 88th Street(site of St Thomas of the Apostle, which hosted several WWF shows in the 80's). Another walk started at Grand Central and 64th to World Gym on Woodhaven Blvd, and back. That's about 4 miles. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 16:51:52 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 16:42:36 2009. No. It's too fucking hot down there. We had 90 temps until Halloween. We were setting records for weeks. It's cold in the north, and I'm loving it.And then you have the fucking white trash scum. They don't keep their dogs on a leash. I would have to drive to Tampa proper to walk along Bayshore, if I want to workout among Tampa's version of the kind of people you see working out in Battery Park City, or Brooklyn's Promenade. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 16:55:24 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 16:37:59 2009. Healthy food isn't any more expensive than unhealthy food is it?As the person who shops for a family of four every week, I can say with experience that yes, it is more expensive. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 16:56:41 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 16:41:07 2009. Healthy eating is not a luxury.It's more expensive. Pherhaps not noticeably more for a single individual, but feeding a family of four on a single paycheck, the difference is significant. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 17:00:49 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 16:51:52 2009. I can understand that. It even gets hot enough to not want to walk here. I'd much rather walk in weather that is between 50-60. Really 60 might even be to warm. 50 is perfect for walking for me. And speaking of walking, I'm heading out to ride some trains and buses and I may walk if it's not raining. Probably from the 720 to the 704. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 17:03:15 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 16:55:24 2009. That's not my experience. Fruit is expensive, but vegetables are pretty cheap depending on what you want. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 17:03:25 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 16:56:41 2009. I pay $1.99 for a large 15.oz box of oat cereal. That's the family size. The organic milk is about $2.50.Also keep in mind that frozen fruits and veggies are cheaper and more nutritious. But you're right in the end. Feeding a family of four may make someone bypass healthy foods that are kind of pricey, like almonds, and pre-washed baby greens. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 17:04:08 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 17:00:49 2009. Have fun. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 17:05:05 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 17:03:15 2009. Frozen is even cheaper and healthier. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 17:06:38 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 17:03:25 2009. I think that much of the unhealthiness of food is from the preparation. Too much fat is used. People fry too much. Change that and it's a big improvement. This message hasn't gotten though to many poor people, but I can understand. If you don't have much, you at least want to eat something that tastes good! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 17:11:10 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 17:06:38 2009. The real problem is processed foods. Especially with kids, who love the stuff. Most parents will give kids whatever they want to eat to shut them up. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 17:12:18 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 17:03:15 2009. Massed produced veggies at the local produce store is a lot cheaper than the organic stuff sold at farmers' markets. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 17:15:02 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 17:06:38 2009. That's true. Fat, and sugar are the big issues. So is lack of exercise. These daily walks are making a difference. But people mock me for doing them, saying that I should grow up, and that exercise is for vain people who just want to look good.I think my peanut butter and lettuce sandwiches taste good. Or pasta with grilled mushrooms. Skim mozzarella on whole grain bread. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 17:17:11 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 17:12:18 2009. That's true. But it's starting to change. The prices are coming down. Blue collar working-class people may still resist organic, thinking it's for snobby people. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 17:21:48 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 17:17:11 2009. That would include me. I despise the term "organic". Any carrot is an organic carrot, whether it was fertilized with chemicals or mulch. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 17:27:21 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 17:21:48 2009. But certain foods, like potatoes, absorb much more chemicals than others. And apple growers use more pesticide than most other fruit growers. Honestly, the only thing I hate about the work organic is the price. I just noticed that the bag of spinach I'm eating from costs just $2 b/c it's not organic. At Whole Foods Tampa, it's $4.50 organic. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 17:33:27 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 17:21:48 2009. anyway, i'd try the Trader Joe's on Met and Woodhaven. Most of the fruits and veggies aren't organic, and are much cheaper and fresher than your local supermarket b/c the people who go there go for that kind of stuff. It's not the kind of people looking for a sale on Wise chips or Cola, but not the snobby Whole Foods crowd either. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 11 19:11:10 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 11 16:55:24 2009. Yeah, eating really healthy does cost more, but eating quite healthy doesn't have to, or at least not break the bank.Fresh produce is healthier than say, canned produce but other than what's been sprayed on, an "organically" grown carrot will yield same nutrition as one that's mass grown. Fresh produce is costlier though, so many opt for canned. Frozen is a good middle ground, not as pricey as fresh and more nutritious than canned, with the bonus of longer household shelf life. A lot of it comes down to healthier choices. Preparing meals from scratch is healthier than buying pre-fab, processed food. A jar of peanut butter is healthier than a jar of oh, I dunno, Cheez Whiz, let's say. Then again, some people are happy with the pickle and lettuce on their Big Mac as their vegetable servings for the day :D your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 19:52:47 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 11 19:11:10 2009. I think frozen is better than fresh. Frozen peaches have more vitamin C than fresh. It has to do with when they're picked. I won't go near most canned foods, other than beans or lentil soup. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 19:58:53 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 19:52:47 2009. what I meant was fresh fruits and veggies picked before ripe, like you see in the supermarket. they are not as healthy as most frozens. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 11 20:30:49 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 19:52:47 2009. I buy canned tomatoes, which are better than store-bought fresh because they were picked when ripe for canning. Of course, homegrown tomatoes are still best because they ripen on the vine. Plus, tomato's nutrition reportedly improves with cooking. I can't get enough of them. I'm drinking Clamato as we speak.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 11 22:40:53 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 11 20:30:49 2009. That's true. Most people eat canned tomatoes.Just went to Trader Joe's. Organic Spring Salad 2.69 Organic Pasta 1.29 Whole grain bread 2.49 Sliced almonds 2.49 Those aren't bad prices for organic healthy foods. |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Fri Dec 11 23:13:54 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Easy on Fri Dec 11 16:37:59 2009. A double cheeseburger is much cheaper than a 6 inch sub. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Dec 11 23:27:55 2009, in response to Re: The Healthiest And Unhealthiest States, posted by Forest Glen on Fri Dec 11 23:13:54 2009. For $5, you can get a foot long sub. That's good to cover 'brunch'. |
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