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Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 08:26:30 2021

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-passes-bill-to-establish-juneteenth-as-a-national-holiday-221324684.html

LOL. This is what our politicians agree on.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jun 16 08:31:17 2021, in response to Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 08:26:30 2021.

I can't wait for Amazon to profit off of it somehow. maybe they'll make a 3rd coming to America to commenmorate it like they did Black History Month.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 12:22:07 2021, in response to Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 08:26:30 2021.

Another white guilt holiday.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 12:22:40 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 12:22:07 2021.

It’s not a white holiday at all.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 12:30:08 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 12:22:40 2021.

Do you know how to read?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 12:43:20 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 12:30:08 2021.

How is it a white guilt holiday if it’s not a white holiday?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 12:54:56 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 12:43:20 2021.

How is mlk a white holiday?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 16 12:58:06 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 12:22:07 2021.

That's how the Dems want to portray it.

Think of it as a defeat for the pro-slavery Democrats and it gets a bit better . . .

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 13:01:52 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 12:54:56 2021.

I don’t think it is. I’ve never had it off except as a student.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 13:20:02 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 16 12:58:06 2021.

IAWTLP

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 13:35:12 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 12:22:07 2021.

FACEBOOK PUT ME BACK IN JAIL AGAIN

I WANTED TO COMMENT ON FOX NEWS BUT IT WAS BLOCKED

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 13:35:37 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 12:54:56 2021.

KING WAS FOR EVERYBODY

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 13:36:39 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 12:22:07 2021.

YOU DONT WANT THE NIGGERS TO HAVE ANYTHING

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 14:00:29 2021, in response to Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 08:26:30 2021.

What the hell kind of date is that?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 14:20:59 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 13:35:37 2021.

I agree with you. He even had kind words for Jews and Israel, unlike yourself.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 15:35:42 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 13:35:12 2021.

You're kidding? I thought facebook hated Fox News.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 15:36:10 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 14:20:59 2021.

idwatlp

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 15:36:23 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 13:35:37 2021.

Nope.

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Re: Salaam just said the N word.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 15:37:28 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 13:36:39 2021.

You're a bad boy.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 15:45:20 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 15:36:10 2021.

Why?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 16 16:09:40 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 13:35:12 2021.

How long is your "sentence" ??

Too bad Facebook dosen't have a no cash bail/no jail system!:)

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 16:53:40 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 16 16:09:40 2021.

What a joke. Another excuse to stay home from work and get paid. For the unfortunate few trying to run a business another poke in the eye. The fact that the House and Senate voted unanimously for this shows how both sides of the aisle knows where their bread is buttered. Follow the herd.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 16:57:07 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 16:53:40 2021.

Cry me a river. Get back to me when they actually mandate that private employers give federal holidays off.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 17:08:18 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 16:57:07 2021.

My point is how many spineless politicians held their noses while publicly endorsing this. Would you risk all the perks that go with their job and vote with your heart? Wall to wall health benefits, pensions just to list a few. So much easier to hold your nose with one hand and vote Aye with the other. Disgraceful representation regardless of where you stand on a particular issue.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 16 17:23:00 2021, in response to Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 08:26:30 2021.

Well that should solve all of our fucking domestic problems.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 17:26:50 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 16:57:07 2021.

And by the way. I have a moving picture of private employers insisting that their employees show up for work on Juneteenth. Or not paying them double time for showing up. You really think that’s gonna fly? Federal workers already lining up at the trough. I’m sure they’ll spend the day in quiet reflection.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 17:30:02 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 17:26:50 2021.

What's the significance of naming a holiday after an improper name?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 17:32:48 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 17:30:02 2021.

Do you call him Michael King because you insist on using birth names?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 17:51:55 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 17:32:48 2021.

I'm not talking about him.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 17:52:50 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 17:51:55 2021.

Oh. I see you’re talking about the name “Juneteenth.”

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 17:57:39 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 17:52:50 2021.

Yes. Glorifying improper English.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by pragmatist on Wed Jun 16 18:07:53 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 16:53:40 2021.

The US is below the average of the G20 nations in number of public holidays. Feel free to trade places with the vast majority any time....US workers do not have strong protections, and holidays and vacations are below average and we don't have mandatory health coverage. Feel free to trade places with the majority any time....

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 18:35:39 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Wed Jun 16 18:07:53 2021.

Yes, Bill I agree with your observation of the continued bastardization of the English language. June nineteenth just had to be “shorted’ to Juneteenth just to rub it in. Is it necessary to play ‘catch up’ with our former European allies by declaring every “who really gives a shit day” and proclaiming it a National Holiday?. Groundhog Day can’t be too far behind.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by pragmatist on Wed Jun 16 18:41:20 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 18:35:39 2021.

No, we needn't play catch up, by the way, the UK is well behind us on holidays, some of the highest numbers are actually S. American. But at the same time we aren't overflowing with holidays or time off, so it shouldn't be seen as a catastrophe either.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 18:57:57 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Wed Jun 16 18:41:20 2021.

Ok. I agree. I wish someone could come up with a dollar figure. Because, let’s face it, it all comes down to money. Whether it’s a slip and fall in a Walmart or reparations to former slaves, people who were related to former slaves, people who thought they may have been related to slaves, etc. I’m fucking sorry. If I had been alive at that time(but I wasn’t) I would have never owned slaves. But please, just tell me how much money do you need from me so I never have to have to listen to this undeserved pity party again.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by pragmatist on Wed Jun 16 19:27:52 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 18:57:57 2021.

I think the reparations thing has expanded beyond anything that could possibly e considered reasonable. A huge number of the people in the US today have no ties to the 1800s on either side of the story.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jun 16 19:35:05 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 15:36:23 2021.

Figures

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 19:48:19 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 18:57:57 2021.

So now you’re equating a public holiday with reparations? Yeah, OK.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 20:10:48 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 19:48:19 2021.

Yeah. Paying a whole lot of people to sit home and collect holiday pay for doing nothing is a veiled form of reparations. Evanston Illinois is the first American city who at least has the balls to call reparations what they really are, a feel good handout. 400k handout to qualified households with a commitment to 10 million over 10 years. When Evanston tied the giveaway to mortgage reduction and home improvements slave descendants had a shit fit. They want the money unfettered by such restrictions. Just give us the money.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by pragmatist on Wed Jun 16 20:21:12 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 20:10:48 2021.

Holidays are commemorations for everyone, trying to equate it to reparations is ridiculous. Millions of people don't get paid for holidays. When they don't work they don't get paid. If you don't want to pay people to work on holidays, here's a novel idea. Go back to when most businesses were closed on holidays (and often on Sundays) But too many businesses are afraid they might leave a nickel on the table...I live near an Orthodox Jewish (modern, not Hasidic) the businesses are all closed Friday night and Saturday. And believe me they have a lot of holidays.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jun 16 21:36:56 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 20:10:48 2021.

So forced and unpaid labor recovery is a handout? LMAO!!! People who say silly stuff like this do not understand finances at all. Reparations is literally just money owned to the descendants of African-American slaves by the government in unpaid wages that are owed to our families for our ancestors' labor, it is a payment on a bill that is about, say, a few hundred years past due.

If you truly believe that it is a handout, then be about mentality and lead by example. Tell your employer that you're now a volunteer and that they can spend your salary on whatever they please. "Handout", LOL, call it what you want, it's still owed.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 21:40:28 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jun 16 19:35:05 2021.

What?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 21:45:56 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by pragmatist on Wed Jun 16 19:27:52 2021.

There are no survivors, therefore no one is entitled to anything. Besides, how would they determine who pays and who gets anything?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jun 16 21:47:51 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 14:00:29 2021.

What the hell kind of date is that?

It is the pronunciation of June 19th in a bastardized version of English known as Ebonics.

John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 21:48:06 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jun 16 21:36:56 2021.

Owed by whom? The Government, or the descendants of slave owners? It's 2021.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 22:00:36 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jun 16 21:36:56 2021.

What ever happened to 40 acres and a mule? They gave white people free land as part of the Homestead Act. If it hadn’t been for the redeemers, state governments could have expropriated large plantations.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by pragmatist on Wed Jun 16 22:02:34 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 21:48:06 2021.

I'm sure there are some traceable descendants, but any effort to figure out realistic numbers is futile. So many people have come into the country since then, and marriages across succeeding generations likely results in today's population having miniscule percentages of slave lineage. The greatest majority of the population have no traceable roots to that era, either as slave owners, or even as residents of the country. Do you think people who may have had ancestors that died fighting against slavery should bear any financial responsibility. Dream on. Do we owe money to any of the other groups who suffered under racial and ethnic discrimination they endured?

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 22:02:56 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jun 16 21:47:51 2021.

Racist post.

English is a bastardized version of Anglo-Saxon (aka Old English), which is a bastardized version of West Germanic, and so forth.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jun 16 22:34:42 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 16 12:58:06 2021.

That's how the Dems want to portray it.

Think of it as a defeat for the pro-slavery Democrats and it gets a bit better . . .


It should be recognized as the 2 1/2 year suppression by Democrats of the issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation by Republican President Abraham Lincoln.

John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 16 23:16:41 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 16 15:35:42 2021.

NO

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