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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 19 23:09:23 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 19 22:58:04 2021. Get back on your meds. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 19 23:12:45 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 22:59:44 2021. It's symbolism is what's meaningful. Like Thanksgiving. |
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Re: Evanston IL: Juneteenth Parade, Pride Picnic OK; 4th must be virtual because COVID |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 19 23:14:14 2021, in response to Re: Evanston IL: Juneteenth Parade, Pride Picnic OK; 4th must be virtual because COVID, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 16:39:11 2021. Let 'em have Grey Poupon and no luncheon meat for it. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 20 00:04:16 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 19 21:30:04 2021. PROOF SHE IS GONE |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 20 00:05:07 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 19 23:09:23 2021. IDWYP |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 20 00:23:31 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by ntrainride on Fri Jun 18 00:42:42 2021. Let's not make too sweeping generalities. I have a friend in the Albany area. (She is of color). We've been close for 24 years. She worked for the same state agency for 30 years, that selkirk worked for. She owns a home and is very middle class. She felt a sense of pride when Barack Obama was elected and was upset that I didn't share her joy.. She feels that pride over the recognition of "her" history but she is not the lazy black person that you allude to. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 20 00:26:04 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 19 20:37:11 2021. Bingbong had to be a source of great embarrassment to him as he came to suffer from his illness. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 01:12:48 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:23:50 2021. I'll show you a pic of my wife, if you wanna see an old bag! 🤣😅🤣😅 |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jun 20 01:32:44 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 19 22:58:04 2021. It said nothing about the slave fighting. But it did only free slaves held in Confederate states. There were a couple of slave states in the Union, and slaves there were not freed by the Emancipation Proclamation.And of course, as a practical matter, people held as slaves in the Confederacy weren't actually freed until the Union took control of the area where they were, which is what famously happened on that June 19th. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 02:46:20 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 17:55:01 2021. I'm Chief Bigwheel! UG! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 02:47:12 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 20 00:04:16 2021. She's banana blazing |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 02:50:56 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 19 20:52:05 2021. They were too drunk. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 04:44:27 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 19 22:58:04 2021. The emancipation proclamation stated that every slave in the confederacy would be free when they were on Union territory, whether it be by them escaping or by the union army occupying that territory. It redefined the Civil War from solely protecting the union to being a fight to end slavery. This was important because it kept Britain and France, who opposed slavery, from actively assisting the confederacy.I didn’t see anything about a stipulation that a Slave had to fight alongside the union troops in order to be free. I did see that the emancipation proclamation allowed black Americans to fight in the union army. Since Texas was the last place to cave to the union armies and the last place to ratify the 13th amendment, it’s fitting that Juneteenth celebrate the events there as the final straw in ending slavery. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 04:49:46 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Are dee em on Wed Jun 16 20:10:48 2021. Reparations are backpay for work performed. If your employer told you that you couldn’t spend your wages on anything but your mortgage you’d have a shit fit as well wouldn’t you? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 05:02:28 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 19 16:10:55 2021. Before there were police departments there were paid private watchmen. Early fire brigades were private and paid by insurance companies. Once they realized that a fire could spread from an uninsured building to an insured building, that model gave way to municipal fire departments |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 05:52:45 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 16 17:57:39 2021. Well you must have a real problem with Halloween |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 20 07:03:28 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 19 23:09:23 2021. You should talk |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 20 07:09:15 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 20 00:04:16 2021. Who said she is gone? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 07:18:26 2021, in response to Evanston IL: Juneteenth Parade, Pride Picnic OK; 4th must be virtual because COVID, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 19 13:14:43 2021. You realize that the organizers of the Fourth of July event aren’t the same people as the other two events and voluntarily made the change themselves right?Sorry to piss on the “see they’re canceling the Fourth of July“ narrative. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 07:34:35 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 05:02:28 2021. That's my point. They started from different origins. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 07:37:37 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 05:52:45 2021. Not really. If it was to be named that nowadays, in 2021, I would. Plus, the name makes people seem ignorant, with the whole Stepinfetchit vibe. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 07:41:23 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 07:34:35 2021. They were private until they were replaced by socialistic entities. And they had to. You can’t picture a modern city without a municipal police or fire department. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 07:42:08 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 07:37:37 2021. Yeah it’s not the Queens English but I guess it’s more like Slave talk |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 08:03:20 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 07:42:08 2021. Yowsa! |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Jun 20 09:06:00 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 20 07:03:28 2021. +5 |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 20 10:06:37 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 20 00:04:16 2021. Where is she? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 20 10:28:13 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 07:41:23 2021. Still, your assertion that certain municipal services being funded by the government makes them socialism, is sophomoric at best. Those alleged "socialist" services only exist to support a capitalist society and capitalist engine. Political leaders promote social policy only to support capitalist ends. The claim that municipal police & fire prove that this nation is socialist are just the result of ranting memes embracing progressive thought. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 20 11:10:40 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 20 00:04:16 2021. No "proof" exists. But she has often said that someday she just might stop posting. She hasn't posted for awhile so she might have made good on her promise. Same like JZ, just vanished. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 20 11:14:33 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 07:37:37 2021. Ah, slurring together of words is wrong now but was OK in past centuries. That makes sense. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 20 11:17:19 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by AlM on Sun Jun 20 11:14:33 2021. Holy Day = Holiday. Prime example. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 11:17:55 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 20 10:28:13 2021. No those memes would be wrong; we are not a socialist country but those entities are socialistic. Given the last couple of decades it almost seems that socialism is the backbone of capitalism since we need to dip into the public till every time capitalism falls on its face |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 20 11:19:12 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 20 11:17:19 2021. Christ mass => Christmas => Xmas too. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 11:27:20 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by AlM on Sun Jun 20 11:19:12 2021. I gave Halloween as an example earlier |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 11:27:28 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 07:37:37 2021. The word "Juneteenth" very much follows the English language tradition of combining words. If you found out that "Juneteenth" was actually a word that was coined by the British 200 years ago you would have a completely different opinion. You've said as much about similar words. You have a "black problem", not a "word problem". |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 20 11:27:59 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 11:27:20 2021. And the Christmas one was originally posted by Easy. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 11:28:02 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jun 20 11:10:40 2021. That’s the best way to exit. There’s no need for a long goodbye |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 20 11:38:42 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 11:27:28 2021. Well said. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 20 11:47:10 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 11:17:55 2021. On the contrary, those municipal entities are driven by capitalism. If you doubt that then explain why the 2nd avenue subway, begun in 1949, has yet to reach 125th st. While the East Side Access, the electrification of the Ronkonkoma branch and the 3rd main line track have gotten done in less than 10 years. Because bringing people to midtown serves corporate interests while subway to 125th st serves the proles. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 11:53:53 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 20 11:47:10 2021. Whatever inspires them to do what they do does not change the fact that they are socialist entities. You could say that the police department is set up to protect wealthy people but it is still a publicly funded entity |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 11:59:51 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 11:53:53 2021. We would agree that those projects are pretty much capitalist since the money is raised through bond issues which is basically like selling stock and the work is being done by private subcontractors |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 12:30:22 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 11:28:02 2021. The "Irish goodbye" |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 20 12:45:16 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 07:42:08 2021. I don’t think Queens English, Brooklyn English, or English from any of the other boroughs is considered the standard for the English language. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 12:45:56 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by AlM on Sun Jun 20 11:14:33 2021. Ah, that's not what I said |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 12:47:55 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by AlM on Sun Jun 20 11:27:59 2021. This is like the Electric Company skit! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 20 12:51:22 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 12:47:55 2021. I only know what that is because of Family Guy. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jun 20 12:52:24 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sun Jun 20 11:53:53 2021. Municipally funded does not equal socialism. There are volumes written on that very subject. You might want to check one or two of them out when you have time. It seems that the ONLY purpose here to push forward that leftwing meme is because those of your ilk try to defend and justify the failed policies of the left. The fact that welfare has been a dismal failure because it only encourages more dependencey does not make my former employment, socialist. That is just a convenient rationalization. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 13:00:25 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 11:27:28 2021. It's insulting to black people IMO. It gives the impression that they can only speak slave dialect. It's like saying "yowsa!", "teef", etc... Call it June Nineteenth. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 13:05:42 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jun 20 13:00:25 2021. I've already pointed out that it gives that impression to you because of your biases. If you thought that white, English people coined the word you wouldn't have an issue. To me it sounds like lots of similar words that exist in English. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 20 13:06:47 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 20 07:09:15 2021. YOU ALL DROVE HER AWAY |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Jun 20 13:08:46 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 19 21:30:04 2021. No, but I hope she's OK. |
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