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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Jun 19 14:45:56 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 19 04:56:48 2021.

The tribes most inclined to war, who would have killed or enslaved the Pilgrims, didn't live in New England.

There were such tribes, but nothing supports your idea that the tribes in New England weren't among them because they were "unfit" for war. That wasn't their way of life. Perhaps because there were sufficient resources for them to live peacefully.


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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 15:09:48 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 13:17:54 2021.

Do you have to pay for bags in California?


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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 19 15:30:03 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 08:31:15 2021.

Actually the Indians had better weapons until the revolver was invented.

Indians were more savage.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 19 15:30:55 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 13:14:21 2021.

Until tomorrow comes we don't know that.

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 19 15:32:12 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Jun 19 14:45:56 2021.

The resources were not as abundant.

Bison was the prize. You had to be big and strong to hunt big game.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 19 15:32:53 2021, in response to Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 08:26:30 2021.

If today is a federal holiday why is there mail today? If I was still a letter carrier I'd really be pissed that I had to work today.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 19 15:52:55 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 06:00:14 2021.

I don't believe in that feel-good saying. I'm with Larry David on this. Anyways, the big difference is, I worked, pay taxes, and contributed to it. As fornthe bennies, that is a negotiated part of the job. A selling point if you will, like politicians have.

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:03:51 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 15:09:48 2021.

BAGS ?

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:05:30 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 19 15:30:03 2021.

WRONG

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 16:06:24 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:03:51 2021.




Yes. This is a bag.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 19 16:06:48 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 07:51:20 2021.

They all pay into their own pensions

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 16:08:20 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:03:51 2021.




And this also is a bag.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by AlM on Sat Jun 19 16:10:21 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 19 16:06:48 2021.

Yes. A fairly small fraction of the cost. Especially for those who can retire ultra-early, like before 55 or unreduced at 55.





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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 19 16:10:55 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 19 08:13:46 2021.

Privately owned? By who? Remember, not all police and fire agencies have the same beginnings

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by AlM on Sat Jun 19 16:11:10 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 19 15:32:53 2021.

why is there mail today>

USPS put out a notice. Too little warning to shut down deliveries.



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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 16:13:07 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:03:51 2021.



And here are 2 old bags.

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 16:15:35 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:05:30 2021.

RIGHT

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 19 16:16:47 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 08:31:15 2021.

Whoowoowoowoowoowoowoowoowoo!!!

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:23:28 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 16:15:35 2021.

WRONG

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:23:50 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 16:13:07 2021.

??

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 19 16:24:33 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 11:09:41 2021.

You scram-um, paleface!

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jun 19 16:25:04 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jun 18 01:15:59 2021.

The late Selkirk often posted that this place should never be taken too seriously. I agree!

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 19 16:25:24 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 11:10:35 2021.

At 166 years old?!

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:26:43 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 19 16:25:24 2021.

???

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 16:28:39 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:23:50 2021.

Lol

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 16:38:34 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 16:28:39 2021.

WTF

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Re: Evanston IL: Juneteenth Parade, Pride Picnic OK; 4th must be virtual because COVID

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 16:39:11 2021, in response to Evanston IL: Juneteenth Parade, Pride Picnic OK; 4th must be virtual because COVID, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 19 13:14:43 2021.

But of couurse.

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 17:01:38 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 16:13:07 2021.



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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 17:02:57 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 19 15:30:03 2021.

How were they more savage? I think it varies, some were more than others like you said before.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 17:03:47 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by AlM on Sat Jun 19 16:11:10 2021.

I just thought that the new statute only takes effect in 2022 as having a statute take effect this quickly is disruptive.

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 17:06:25 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 17:01:38 2021.

LOL

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by AlM on Sat Jun 19 17:13:34 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jun 19 17:03:47 2021.

Well, you were wrong and you were right.



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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 17:55:01 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 19 16:24:33 2021.

QUIET ADULTS TALKING

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 18:14:20 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jun 19 16:24:33 2021.

Lol

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 18:18:56 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 18:14:20 2021.

QUIET ADULTS TALKING

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 18:32:46 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 18:18:56 2021.

OK, then shut up.

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 20:02:40 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 18:32:46 2021.

LADIES FIRST

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 20:16:40 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 20:02:40 2021.

YOU

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 20:22:05 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 20:16:40 2021.

YOU

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 20:36:42 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 20:22:05 2021.

YOU

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 19 20:37:11 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jun 19 16:25:04 2021.

Yet his widow always takes it seriously

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Re: Juneteenth Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 20:44:58 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth Official, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jun 19 20:36:42 2021.

YOU

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 20:45:28 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 19 20:37:11 2021.

NOPE

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by DAND124 on Sat Jun 19 20:52:05 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 16 22:00:36 2021.

I don't believe that the homestead act was limited to whites. I seem to recall that the homesteaders that were successful were European immigrants from similar climates, mostly Germans and Scandinavians, Irish attempts at homesteading largely failed.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Jun 19 21:30:04 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jun 19 20:45:28 2021.

You don't think Bing Bong takes this forum too seriously????

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 22:47:40 2021, in response to Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 16 08:26:30 2021.

Copied from a post I made in another thread

Juneteenth should not be a national holiday. It commemorates the day in 1865 when people in Galvaston, Texas learned of the "Emancipation Proclamation" which became law some 2 1/2 years earlier. Therefore it seemingly should be celebrated as a state holiday in Texas, only. It certainly is not a day of national independence.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 19 22:51:36 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 22:47:40 2021.

The Emancipation Proclamation didn't end slavery or free most slaves anyway. Lincoln was a fraud.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 22:54:30 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 19 22:51:36 2021.

I imagine that the prosecution of the civil war had much to do with that, as well. The confederacy did not view lincoln as the president in 1863,

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 19 22:58:04 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 22:54:30 2021.

What I meant was that he didn't say that slavery was over. What Lincoln said was that any slave from the Confederacy that fought against the Confederacy was free. Any slave that didn't fight (women, children, old people, men that didn't fight, slaves in border states, etc) were still slaves in Lincoln's opinion.

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Re: Juneteenth All But Official

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 19 22:59:44 2021, in response to Re: Juneteenth All But Official, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 19 22:58:04 2021.

I see - a good point. So then Juneteenth is even less meaningful.

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