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Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:00:33 2020, in response to Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 10:45:35 2020.

LOL! Your brain should be studied.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:05:05 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 10:57:52 2020.

I was implying the rule change itself was the cheating, not voter fraud. Though if CA-25 is any indication the rule change might benefit Republicans, especially if Dem politicans have things locked down come election day.

Normies don't give a crap about politics. They watch their sportsball, go to bars, take trips to the beach and parks, and get haircuts. The messaging from the media is that Republicans want you to do those things (and that's bad!) while Democrats are keeping you safe from virus infected sand. So when the ballot appears in the mail in front of someone who doesn't care, the association is (R) = Freedom, (D) = house arrest.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:09:25 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:05:05 2020.

That’s actually bullshit. Even when things open up, the vast majority of people don’t want to go out because they know that the virus still exists despite right wing faith.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:11:11 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:00:22 2020.

"Chance in hell" for Bernie was not the reason Democrats voted.

2017 and 2019 were also very bad for Republicans in state and local elections. Governor Walker also lost in 2019.

Ukraine has not been "debunked". McConnell was simply too cowardly to have a real trial.

Obstructing Justice 11 times for the Mueller report has not been "debunked".

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:15:13 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:05:05 2020.

Loss of support for Trump in the rust belt swing states is because of desertion of seniors, who are also the ones in rural areas who don't want the health risk of in-person voting.

They also don't go to bars and the beach very much, so don't care if they can't patronize them. Look at the news footage and age of the idiots crowding up bars and beaches in Florida, Wisconsin, and Arkansas.

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Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020?

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:16:35 2020, in response to Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:00:33 2020.

Don't worry. These Deep South ER's will be overwhelmed in about a month.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:17:13 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 11:09:25 2020.

Conversely, despite left wing faith, more and more people are realizing the virus isn't an apocalyptic killer. There are no massive hot spots developing in the early-opening Republican states. Countries that didn't bother with contact tracing or locking down (Japan, Sweden) are seeing comparable numbers to ours. The fearmongering of the press is wearing off - the lockdowns will be largely ignored by mid-June, and if the Dems attempt a new lockdown by November, they will be screwed.

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Re: Nancy & Schmucky will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 11:18:47 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:17:13 2020.

"Contact tracing" = establishment of police state.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:27:25 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:17:13 2020.

Montomgery, AL was down one ICU bed last week, largely due to people from rural areas. They had to ship them to Birmingham.

North Carolina and Texas have recently had sharp spikes.

Expect a 2nd wave in July. Disease does not care about party affiliation nor the calendar.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 11:28:24 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:17:13 2020.

more and more people are realizing the virus isn't an apocalyptic killer.

Um.

1. It was never thought to kill more than 1% of those who get infected. It is still thought to kill about 1% of those who are infected. It will still take 2 million deaths to bring the US to herd immunity without some kind of medical advance or a change in the character of the virus.

2. It isn't infecting as many people any more because even Republicans are mostly practicing social distancing. Do you see any area of the country where restaurants are generally packing people in at full capacity? Or where stadiums are filled with people?

Of course, Trump is proposing an interesting scientific experiment, namely to hold the Republican Convention with the full cast of people. If they pull that off without a major outbreak among leading Republicans in September, it would prove that something has fundamentally changed.









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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:29:55 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:17:13 2020.

Healthline

"Sweden’s per capita death rate was 36 per 100,000, which is higher than the United States at 27 and neighboring Denmark at 9."

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:31:22 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Mon May 25 11:28:24 2020.

"Ignorance is Bliss" with the right-wingers.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:31:59 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:15:13 2020.

I agree on your first sentence.

The second sentence is actually NYC: People flock to NYC-area bars, beaches as ‘quarantine fatigue’ intensifies

The politically active Republicans / Trump supporters are protesting the lockdowns. The politically active Dems are protesting the protesters via news articles and Twitter. The people who don't care aren't protesting, they are doing whatever they want, and this attitude is bipartisan.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:32:58 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:17:13 2020.

Half of Swedes live alone
Ain't true in the US.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 11:34:05 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:29:55 2020.

And note that the US without NYC is about 20, whereas NYC is about 300.


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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:35:18 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Mon May 25 11:28:24 2020.

Your argument (2) is exactly why the lockdowns are overkill. Small steps like wearing a mask (which Trump is stupidly fueling a partisan divide on, even OANN is saying wear a mask) and social distancing (50% capacity, no large gatherings, no licking strangers you meet on the street) are sufficient to avoid overwhelming the hospital system.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 11:36:24 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:31:59 2020.

People flock to NYC-area bars, beaches as ‘quarantine fatigue’ intensifies

Anecdotal evidence.

Here are my anecdotes from yesterday in a bar-intensive neighborhood.

- McSorley's had about 14 people congregating outside.

- Almost every other bar was closed, even for take-out.



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Re: Nancy & Schmucky will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 11:39:31 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:35:18 2020.

Small steps like wearing a mask (which Trump is stupidly fueling a partisan divide on)

Trump is doing it?

How about those Democratic state governors who eschew masks after telling people to wear them, e.g. NJ's Murphy, VA's Northam and others?

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:40:10 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:31:59 2020.

The Governors both D'ds and R's, with the strongest lock-downs have approval ratings in the 70's and 80's.

The most Trump-like governors, as in FL, GA, and TX, which are Red states, have theirs in the 40's and 50's.

The Michigan protesters was about 30 - 40 people. Their governor has a 71% approval rating.

Trump's overall approval rating is stuck in the low 40's. On the Covid-19 issue, about 39%.

Don't be too confident that Trumpicans will all run out without masks and party. They aren't doing either.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:49:21 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:35:18 2020.

Things like Dental and Barber shops where social distancing is impossible, even with a mask, is still very risky. I would not go into a restaurant, even if open, even if I were the only customer.

They went overboard with some closings, like bike shops.

"Herd immunity" is irrelevant until infection rate hits 70%.

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Re: Nancy & Schmucky will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:50:23 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmucky will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 25 11:39:31 2020.

Murphy puts on a mask every time he arrives and leaves his press conference. They are all about 8' apart.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 12:15:23 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:29:55 2020.

PWN3D!

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Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon May 25 12:20:59 2020, in response to Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 24 22:39:08 2020.

TITLE CORRECTED

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Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020

Posted by Edwards! on Mon May 25 12:49:38 2020, in response to Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 24 22:31:04 2020.

Not going to mix words.
I piss on crooked political spin, including living spin like Moscow Mitch, The Mutant Turtle...Linslay Graham, the Primado headbitch of the Southern tier...
And the Head Gringo in Charge, the Chief DEVIL Overlord..Mr Pandemic.. Your President!
How is he and Your bitchass criminals compatibles going about changing the narrative,to make THEMSELVES APPEAR TO BE THE VICTIMS OF THIS DOMESTIC AND GLOBAL ATTACK?
EASY..BLAME EVERYTHING ON EVERYONE ELSE.
DISMISSED EVERYTHING EXCEPT REPUBLICAN PROPAGANDA.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 12:55:53 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 10:50:19 2020.

changing the rules in the middle of a competition to help one side win is the textbook definition of cheating...

What rule change?

Virtually every state allows filing an absentee ballot for reasons of health. Since there hasn't been a massive pandemic since 1918, there are no clearly established rules as to whether not wishing to wait in a crowded polling place during a pandemic is a valid reason of health.

So what you call a rule change is simply a clarification that yes, not wishing to risk your life and health in order to vote is a valid health reason.



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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 13:03:51 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Mon May 25 12:55:53 2020.

The right wingers are not bitching about West Virginia, Nebraska, Iowa and Georgia expanding mail in voting or "changing the rules".

Voter suppression in Blue states are what they want.

Push_Ahead

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 13:52:44 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 07:45:34 2020.

Lol!!!
This again?

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 13:54:04 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 08:51:19 2020.

Can however point to the fact that he's the one that could take us out of this economic wise. People do know what it was like before the virus

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 14:07:32 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 13:54:04 2020.

Momentum from the post 2008 recovery.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon May 25 15:38:27 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 11:49:21 2020.

Bike shops are open. At least Brands in Wantagh is.

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Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020

Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon May 25 15:53:59 2020, in response to Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 24 22:31:04 2020.

If people think that "shutting down the opposing party" is a good thing to vote for, then we are already lost as a functioning democracy.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 25 16:38:25 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon May 25 11:00:22 2020.

Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how many Republican delegates and GOP bigwigs survive COVID-19, after attending their Convention in NC!!!

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 16:41:19 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 25 16:38:25 2020.

I predict at least 99% will survive!



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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 17:27:41 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Mon May 25 16:41:19 2020.

How many show up to these things ?

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by AlM on Mon May 25 17:50:26 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 17:27:41 2020.

A few thousand.


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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 25 20:31:43 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Mon May 25 17:50:26 2020.

Sorta like the last Inauguration, I guess!

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Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:03:39 2020, in response to Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020, posted by Joe V on Sat May 23 06:56:03 2020.

So now, only 1 party should rule for ever and ever?

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Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:04:11 2020, in response to Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri May 22 16:48:06 2020.

How so?

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:07:06 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 07:45:34 2020.

(Sigh)...

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:08:18 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Mon May 25 08:48:13 2020.

What's the "racist vote"?

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Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 22:09:19 2020, in response to Re: Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:03:39 2020.

Fallacious post.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:11:07 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 08:51:19 2020.

Wouldn't it save time just to write blacks, browns, and reds?

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:13:50 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Jimmymc25 on Mon May 25 09:01:35 2020.

Not gonna happen. Trump will EASILY win.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by 3-9 on Mon May 25 23:47:02 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 14:07:32 2020.

Not all of it. Trump did do things to encourage more growth, like the tax cuts, but that's a relatively short term boost. Any idiot can spend on an seemingly unlimited credit card.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon May 25 23:56:59 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 25 14:07:32 2020.

Lol. Yeah okay

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 26 02:15:13 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 25 22:08:18 2020.

The Democratic vote, I thought.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 26 02:16:02 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Mon May 25 08:48:13 2020.

lo@lm!



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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 26 03:14:16 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by AlM on Mon May 25 11:36:24 2020.

A couple of other anecdotes:

I noticed some bars in my neighborhood with people congregating outside, and quite a few did not have masks on. Another bar which did allow patrons inside had a couple of people who were not social distancing. I don't remember if they were wearing masks.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 26 03:23:02 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by 3-9 on Tue May 26 03:14:16 2020.

So you see them fining bars to generate revenue?

It's so hard to distance oneself in such a social environment.

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Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020

Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 26 03:26:15 2020, in response to Re: Nancy & Schmuck will continue to resist everything when Trump wins in 2020, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 26 03:23:02 2020.

Don't know, can go either way, I think. Depends on how severe the problem gets.

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