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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 23:41:10 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 25 21:00:56 2019.

IAWTFP!

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 25 23:44:35 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 23:34:39 2019.

You need an intervention. That's all bad stuff.

Tea is very Southern too.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 25 23:46:21 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 23:39:26 2019.

The south always did good farm work.

But its hot and that's bad for health.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 23:54:19 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 25 23:46:21 2019.

Yes, they had people to do that for them.

GOD BLESS GENERAL SHERMAN!

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 26 00:05:33 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 25 23:46:21 2019.

What do you know about farm work, #37?

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 26 00:11:48 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 26 00:05:33 2019.

Thanks for trolling me. I feel like part of kegcityclub without touching alcohol.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 26 00:13:33 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 23:54:19 2019.

The south has farm land and better weather for farming.

Pig farming is very important in US history.



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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 00:47:43 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 23:34:39 2019.

With that diet, you should be known as Colonel Spider-Pig

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 26 04:55:58 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Aug 25 07:10:05 2019.

Democrats appear to have no problem sending arms to support Israel or continuing our current defense relationship. What constantly rubs mainstream Democrats the wrong way is how little progress Netanyahu has made with any kind of peace negotiations with the Palestinians, and the constant building of new settlements in Area C. Those Democrats are also for border security and immigration reform, just not a wall, and not the tactics that Trump has been using. You need to stop thinking the squad represents mainstream Democrats, and look more towards Pelosi and Schumer. 3-4 representatives do not trump nearly 200 congresspeople.

Reading #11 again, I probably misread that one.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 26 05:01:20 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Aug 25 10:19:53 2019.

I agree that I misread #11, but I don't think it is that bad if big oil or the remaining Koch or whichever rich right-wing nut were to buy Facebook or Twitter. That would cause such a backlash that some other social media platform would sprout up, and Facebook and Twitter will end up going the way of Myspace. Now, if Microsoft, Google, or Amazon suddenly went extreme right wing, that would cause a problem.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 26 05:04:42 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 25 18:49:51 2019.

At least that far back.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 26 05:13:45 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Aug 24 20:44:54 2019.

I think there's 1 big question that's missing from here: do you believe that government a) environmental regulation and b) financial regulation are:
1) too much,
2) too little,
3) about right,
4) not sure



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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 26 05:18:29 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 16:22:45 2019.

Those communties may have unique needs and mindset, but since when do do the needs and mindset of 10,000 trump that of 100,000? It's not mob rule, it's majority rule, because the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Aug 26 06:56:38 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 26 04:55:58 2019.

And the leadership of the “Palestinians” has never been interested in peace. They only want to wipe Israel off the map and make the land Jew free. The Democrats idea of immigration reform is amnesty for all (see DACA as first step), providing more rights to illegals than to citizens (see New York), doing away with ICE, and completely open borders.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Aug 26 06:58:49 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Aug 25 17:20:30 2019.

the EC indeed garauntees that all regions in the fifty states will get a somewhat equal voice. it's indicative of a not-too-if-at-all well thought out pov to state "ahhh, but the cities have more a larger population and hence, should have more say in the electoral process".

mob rule is NOT the american way. we live in a democratic republic. the presence of the EC in the voting process is the way to make ALL americans feel their voices count. it's an excellent check against mob rule.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Aug 26 07:13:49 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by ntrainride on Mon Aug 26 06:58:49 2019.

Your last sentence is a great argument for a national popular vote. Do Republicans in New York or Democrats in Idaho feel like their voices count when it is a foregone conclusion that their preferred candidate will lose the state’s electoral votes? The EC does not give the 50 states a somewhat equal voice because every state has a minimum of 3 electors regardless of population.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 07:55:27 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by ntrainride on Sun Aug 25 23:41:08 2019.

Aren't you a vile, disgusting pedophile?

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 26 08:19:56 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 07:55:27 2019.

How do you feel about Don Lemon and the lawsuit over his weird sexual behavior? Vile & disgusting, perhaps?

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 08:27:36 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 26 08:19:56 2019.

Aren't people in America innocent until proven guilty, you vile and disgusting troll?

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 26 08:37:26 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 08:27:36 2019.

LOL!! Except of course when they fit your agenda. YOU of ALL people should not be touching the "innocent until proven guilty" thing, as you do it all the time in reverse.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 26 08:39:29 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Aug 26 07:13:49 2019.

They all have 3, but larger populous states have way more.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 08:45:46 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Aug 26 07:13:49 2019.

Look at how many people voted for DeBlassio, and how many people hate them.

What you gave is the talking point that is the problem, not the electorial college. New York could have a different mayor. It could even vote for President had it wanted to.

But everyone keeps repeating that same nonsense garbage, and no one goes out to vote, and you get politicans elected by what, 8% of the population?

New York City's mayor, and it's other local politicans prove that it's not the electorial college that's an issue.


If you can't even vote for your own local positions, what makes spider-pig think it'll change for the better for President?

It won't.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 26 09:32:14 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 08:27:36 2019.

Hey Kewpie doll, I made no allegations about his guilt or innocence. Why do you infer where I did not imply?

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 26 09:33:52 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 26 08:37:26 2019.

Nah that cop with the DWI stuff is "guilty" until proven Innocent.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:29:08 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 26 04:55:58 2019.

What constantly rubs mainstream Democrats the wrong way is how little progress Netanyahu has made with any kind of peace negotiations with the Palestinians, and the constant building of new settlements in Area C.

They should stop blaming Netanyahu for Palestinian recalcitrance.

As for the settlements, I agree, but most people don't know what "area C" is. Area C is the part that Israel controls under the Oslo accords. But I feel that more settlement building serves no real purpose and is a waste of Israeli resources and good will.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:35:33 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Aug 26 07:13:49 2019.

Not to mention that it completely makes the votes worthless in the lopsided vote states, both red and blue. Texas is equally worthless on the red side as California is on the blue.

Basically, the EC priorities the votes of people in some states over others, the validity of the votes in these states being arbitrary at best. Why are the votes of people in the large cities of Columbus, Miami and Philadelphia more important than the votes of the many rural areas in places like Texas or California?

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:36:14 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 26 08:39:29 2019.

Which are proportionally less. Go ahead and divide the population of Wyoming by 3 and the population of California by 55.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:38:46 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by 3-9 on Mon Aug 26 05:18:29 2019.

Excellent post.

The argument that Chris and Bill are making is that the majority of the country may have one mindset, but that doesn't matter and we should listen to the minority instead.

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Re: AOC plays the race card

Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 10:38:50 2019, in response to Re: AOC plays the race card, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:29:08 2019.

They should stop blaming Netanyahu for Palestinian recalcitrance.

Agreed.


As for the settlements, I agree, but most people don't know what "area C" is. Area C is the part that Israel controls under the Oslo accords. But I feel that more settlement building serves no real purpose and is a waste of Israeli resources and good will.


Worse, the settlements generate tremendous hostility to Israel. I understand that some hostility to Israel is just anti-Semitism, and nothing Israel can do will end that. But some of it is genuine outrage (even if skewed by the fact that many of the outraged people don't express the same outrage toward Russia and China). The settlements are costing Israel hugely.





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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:39:58 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 08:45:46 2019.

Those are entirely independent issues.

If you want to extend your argument to presidential elections, most people hate Trump, and yet he's the president. I guarantee you that if the 2016 election went to the popular vote winner and that was Hillary, most people would have hated her too.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:41:32 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 08:27:36 2019.

People should stop misusing that axiom.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 26 15:23:36 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:38:46 2019.

But it's not the majority of the country, it's pockets of populous areas. THAT is not based on community.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:27:51 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 26 15:23:36 2019.

It just so happens that the majority of the country's population lives in a relatively constrained area. And in any event, the country's major population centers do not all vote in lockstep, so your concerns are misplaced.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 15:27:58 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 26 15:23:36 2019.

It's pockets of populous areas (many of them suburbs, by the way, and not cities) that add up to a majority of the country.



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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 26 15:35:41 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:27:51 2019.

Again he is afraid of Republicans being rendered a permanent minority. The fact is people like Chris are scared.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:36:15 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 26 15:23:36 2019.

60% of the population of Midland lives in "Region 1," 40% lives in "Region 2." 60% of the population of Region 1 votes for Candidate A and 40% votes for Candidate B. In Region 2, 70% of the population votes for Candidate B and 30% for Candidate A.

Who wins the election?

According to you, it should be Candidate A because "Region 1" has almost 60% of the electoral votes and "Region 2" has more than 40% of the electoral votes.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:39:57 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 26 15:35:41 2019.

What's interesting is that the venerable "Republican Party" will not be rendered a permanent minority, they'll find a niche to the right of the Democrats, IOW, people we now call moderates, because they won't all become Democrats. What the current system does is that it causes BOTH parties to be skewed unnecessarily rightward.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 15:40:14 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 26 15:35:41 2019.

People like Chris are scared that white people, as a minority , will receive the exact same treatment they have meted out to the present minorities, over the entire course of American history.

They'll say "racism isn't real", but whites are secretly terrified of losing their power as the dominant culture in American society.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 15:46:02 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:36:15 2019.

No one ever wins an election.

Except when Trump won. Otherwise, it has been well over a century since anyone has been a winner.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:54:42 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 15:40:14 2019.

Not everything is about race.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 26 16:11:07 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:54:42 2019.

Agreed

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 26 16:11:22 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 26 15:35:41 2019.

I'm scared.

I'm more than willing to share my feats.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 26 16:11:52 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 26 16:11:22 2019.

How about you share facts about your diet... some stats

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 26 16:13:52 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 26 16:11:52 2019.

Sadly my diet is ridiculed.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 26 16:15:49 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:39:57 2019.

It does, it forces politicians to move to the middle cause the extremes wont win anymore. It renders states like Iowa or Ohio or midwestern states back where they should be on the totem pole.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 16:20:07 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:54:42 2019.

Let me quote a serious political analyst I know:

"Race trumps everything."

He's not wrong.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 26 16:20:09 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:54:42 2019.

Hey KFC has meatless chicken nuggets.

#meatlessmonday
#almhour
#vsu




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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 16:22:43 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 16:20:07 2019.

Yes, he is. Racial resentment and animus is a cause of many problems, but not a universal cause.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 16:23:04 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 26 16:20:09 2019.

Looking forward to a taste test.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 26 16:26:13 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 26 16:20:09 2019.

Chicken nuggets without the chicken.

Burgers without the beef (impossible!).

Next it will be flounder without the fish.

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