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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 29 13:35:51 2019, in response to More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 29 13:23:16 2019.

Elections today are popularity contests with little regard to who will best serve the interests of this country. Donald Trump is Exhibit A

Ignorant post. Trump's actions have been in the interests of the country. You'd better start calling yourself a liberal now.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 29 13:49:11 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 29 13:35:51 2019.



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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 29 13:56:49 2019, in response to More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 29 13:23:16 2019.

AOC is Exhibit B.

Thousands of people have been elected to Congress. It's not surprising that some managed to do so with a minimum of prior qualifications.

Only 39 people have ever been elected President of the United States. Trump is in a class by himself, though I suppose Pierce, Buchanan, and Harding give him something of a run for the money.



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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 29 16:13:32 2019, in response to More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 29 13:23:16 2019.

I agree

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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Aug 29 16:54:26 2019, in response to More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 29 13:23:16 2019.

"Donald Trump is Exhibit A."

JFK v/s Nixon was Exhibit A. The TV debate sealed Dick's fate.

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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 29 17:53:06 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Aug 29 16:54:26 2019.

Nixon was 100 times more qualified to be president of the United States than Donald Trump.



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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Aug 29 17:53:43 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by AlM on Thu Aug 29 17:53:06 2019.

LOL

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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 29 18:00:36 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 29 13:29:38 2019.

This statement that you made.

"She’s a US Representative now and is fully qualified to criticize long-standing laws."

Do you not know how to follow a thread?

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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 29 18:02:54 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by AlM on Thu Aug 29 13:56:49 2019.

"Thousands of people have been elected to Congress. It's not surprising that some managed to do so with a minimum of prior qualifications."

Agreed. AOC is one of the latter.

"Only 39 people have ever been elected President of the United States. Trump is in a class by himself, though I suppose Pierce, Buchanan, and Harding give him something of a run for the money."

What about Ford?








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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 29 18:06:53 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 29 18:02:54 2019.

He was never elected President. He was castigated for pardoning Nixon, but it was the right call.

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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 29 18:10:42 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 29 18:06:53 2019.

I agree. If Ford hadn't pardoned Nixon, it would have prolonged the Watergate mess, and seriously hurt the GOP. The pardon allowed the country to move on, and even the Republicans benefited: just five years later, Reagan was elected, and the right-wing revolution was on again.

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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 29 18:23:50 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 29 18:02:54 2019.

You realize that the number "39" excludes every VP who succeeded to the presidency and was not subsequently elected? Why single-out Ford?

Trump is the 44th person to serve as president,* given that Cleveland was both the 22nd and 24th president. Five people succeeded to the presidency without being elected president: John Tyler, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester A. Arthur, and Gerald Ford.

Teddy Roosevelt, Calvin Coolidge, Harry S Truman, and Lyndon B. Johnson were all elected president in their own right subsequent to their elevation to the presidency.

*Not counting Dick Cheney during Bush's colonoscopies and the apocryphal case of David Rice Atchison.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 29 18:31:42 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Aug 29 16:54:26 2019.

Only because of what the TV producers did to Nixon. Never mind the gullible public.

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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 29 18:46:48 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 29 18:23:50 2019.

Atchison is said to have slept through his day as President. That puts him in the company of other Presidents who were asleep on the job, like Hoover. 😂😂😂

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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 29 18:56:21 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 29 18:00:36 2019.

"She’s a US Representative now and is fully qualified to criticize long-standing laws."

So is every American citizen.




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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Aug 29 20:51:49 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by AlM on Thu Aug 29 17:53:06 2019.

...and had 100 more reasons to resign in disgrace than Trump will ever have.

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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Aug 29 21:19:05 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by AlM on Thu Aug 29 18:56:21 2019.

Allowed to and qualified to are two very different things.

I'm allowed to hold an opinion on quantum physics but only an idiot would think I'm qualified to speak on it equally among scientists who've studied it for decades. Not all opinions are created equal.

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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 29 21:28:27 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Aug 29 21:19:05 2019.

lo@lm!

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 29 21:28:56 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Aug 29 21:19:05 2019.

That's OK; given the crazy theories that spring from it and not with mathematical proof, more opinions are created equal than you might think.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 29 22:57:16 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 29 21:28:56 2019.

OMG, you're deeply deranged.

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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Aug 30 02:27:33 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 25 19:49:51 2019.

I thought of a detailed response, but what it boils down to is that the world keeps changing, and so do the solutions. The move rightward in some areas, like healthcare, isn't helping either.



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Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam)

Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 30 02:28:01 2019, in response to Re: More Bullshit (Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Aug 29 21:19:05 2019.

You've articulated precisely the argument in favor of what looks like TDS. When Trump is incompetent on almost every level* it is right to criticize him for almost everything he does.

* Even when he's right he's wrong. A good argument can be made for buying Greenland, but his negotiating style has sabotaged any possibility of it happening for decades.



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Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 30 10:08:11 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 25 19:49:51 2019.

I don't agree that there has been a significant movement leftward in general. It's a perception thanks to a vocal Twitter minority, and feckless Democrats catering to it.

That having been said, there has been a more moderate leftward movement on healthcare, and environmental issues. Thanks to the small-state bias (not going to call it a rural bias because that's inaccurate), Congress will always be more conservative than the country as a whole.*

*I actually think this is a good thing, but it's too far under the current setup.

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