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Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade |
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Posted by Mtk52983 on Thu Jul 12 23:05:01 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 12 22:33:53 2018. And bingbong is making a political prediction about what will happen if Judge Kavanaugh is confirmed |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 12 23:11:44 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 12 22:55:03 2018. Yes! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jul 12 23:14:53 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Mtk52983 on Thu Jul 12 23:05:01 2018. Roe v. Wade will never be overturned. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 12 23:18:14 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Mtk52983 on Thu Jul 12 23:05:01 2018. Well, that MUST be true! 🙄🙄 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 12 23:46:17 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jul 12 23:14:53 2018. Not by this court, no.And would it really matter if it were? New York had legal abortion three years prior to that decision. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 12 23:57:45 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 12 22:55:03 2018. Possibly. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 13 07:53:06 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 12 21:40:11 2018. All the 'cillins. They (along with others like tetracycline) kill the normal bacteria that live in the stomach that are responsible for activating the birth control pill. |
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Re: Term Limits Was Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 13 08:51:47 2018, in response to Re: Term Limits Was Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 12 22:35:05 2018. I don't disagree. But why are they obviously the papers of the individual? They are needed for the phone company to provide its service.Suppose a merchant in the area of the Whiskey Rebellion had reported to a government agent that a customer had bought large quantities of several of the ingredients of gunpowder. The merchant hands over the sales records* and the feds use those records to obtain a warrant to search the customer's property. Might not the writers of the 4th Amendment have had a discussion as to whether that was a prohibited action or not? They could easily have come out where you have, but I don't see it as being 100% obvious. Or maybe a better parallel would be their internal handwritten notes to request a big wholesale delivery of those ingredients from one of their suppliers ("Ask Joe to ship us half a ton of saltpeter when you see him on Friday, because Ephraim has ordered it"). |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 10:16:14 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 12 23:46:17 2018. Because women from all over the country will be coming here for abortions overwhelming the limited services already available. They should be able to get the pills for termination locally. In fact, they should be readily available anywhere from any OB/GYN.Most abortions are medical, early term these days. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 10:17:08 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 12 22:55:03 2018. No, because you said "might". Not I will. In the latter case, yes, it would be a lie. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 13 10:22:25 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 10:16:14 2018. Because women from all over the country will be coming here for abortionsLOL!! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 13 10:29:29 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Dave on Fri Jul 13 10:22:25 2018. How is that funny? It's true. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 13 10:34:49 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 13 10:29:29 2018. Not from all over the country. Just from southern and Midwestern states.I drove a taxi in the suburbs in the summer of 1970. A local abortion clinic had an account with the company I worked for. The drivers complained that the account setup didn't include any tips, so they'd have a pickup or drop off to/from LGA, but the trip didn't include anything extra. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 10:45:05 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 13 10:34:49 2018. Thta,s pretty much what I meant. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 11:00:47 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 10:17:08 2018. So even if he said I will, and the next day he changed his mind at had something different for breakfast, he still is not lying. Now, if he had pancakes for breakfast but told you he had oatmeal for breakfast that day, then that would be a lie. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jul 13 11:06:32 2018, in response to Re: Term Limits Was Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 13 08:51:47 2018. The difference in your examples is that it appears that unprompted the merchant turned it over. This case involved the Government using the Stored Communications Act, which has a much lower standard than probable cause, to get through the proverbial back door the same information they couldn’t get through the front. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 13 11:09:48 2018, in response to Re: Term Limits Was Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jul 13 11:06:32 2018. But my example wouldn't really change if the federal agent went from store to store asking about any big orders for saltpeter. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 11:10:10 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 11:00:47 2018. No, it would be a lie.Example: trump told PM May he told her how to pursue Brexit. He made a critical comment to a member of the British press that she didn't listen to him (why would she? Britain is a sovereign nation and can handle this their way). Today he said he didn't criticize her....yet it's there, IN PRINT, in the m3dia. Widely reported. He,s lying. Period. If Olog May have oatmeal and doesn't, he leaves room to decide otherwise. If he says he WILL, then he's lying if he doesn't. Cut and dry. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jul 13 11:26:35 2018, in response to Re: Term Limits Was Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 13 11:09:48 2018. Under the Fourth Amendment it does because it does not apply to individual activity versus government activity. If I find you are illegally doing something in my basement and I tell the police to come over because I have something they’d want to see, the Fourth Amendment is not implicated.Adding the dimension of the federal agent I would argue that the orders require a warrant, but the present sense impression of the store clerk is not provided it is not based on a request to review the records or otherwise unknowable without analyzing records. If the clerk said to the agent that Farmer John placed an unusually large order that statement would get in. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 12:05:01 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 11:10:10 2018. It's not a fucking life if you decide to change your mind! It's a lie if you do one thing, but intentionally say a another to mislead. If my friend asks me where I'm going to eat tomorrow and I say I'm having pizza and then tomorrow comes but at the last minute I have Chinese, I didn't lie to him, I just changed my mind. Now if I told him I'm having pizza, but I had Chinese, and he asked me what I had and I said pizza, that's a lie. Come on! You're old enough to know the difference! |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 13 12:12:34 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 12 21:40:26 2018. figures |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 13 12:13:02 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 12 22:33:12 2018. lol |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 13 12:13:59 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 11:10:10 2018. I prefer grits. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 12:31:58 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 12:05:01 2018. You don't know you're lying? Thta's a shame, yet no surprise.Does a lie like that matter? No. A world leader lying about discussions regarding global security alliances is just a little different. By zillions of degrees. Just like his “numbers never seen before". |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 13:11:18 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 12:31:58 2018. What am I lying about? You've lost your fucking mind! |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 13:21:57 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 13:11:18 2018. LOL! Everything! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 13:40:45 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 13:21:57 2018. Hillary Clinton won the 2016 presidential election. There, I just lied. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 13 13:41:56 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 13:40:45 2018. You're no worse off than almost all of the pollsters back in 2016. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 13 13:51:07 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 13:40:45 2018. lol |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 14:19:01 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 13:40:45 2018. Yes, you did, though potentially not entirely. She DID win the popular vote, and if you're confusing the vote with the election, (as so many RWers do) you aren't. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 15:46:19 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 14:19:01 2018. I didn't say anything about the "popular" (dead and illegal voters). That doesn't win elections. Therefore, I told a 100% lie! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 15:46:22 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 14:19:01 2018. I didn't say anything about the "popular" (dead and illegal voters). That doesn't win elections. Therefore, I told a 100% lie! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 13 16:41:22 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jul 12 16:33:55 2018. Trump v/s Cuomo in 2020? Trump wins. Assuming Trump is not impeached & Cuomo is not indicted for something. Besides, the red-neck trailer park types who voted Trump are not going to vote for a candidate whose name ends in a vowel. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 17:06:47 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 15:46:22 2018. LOL! You still buying into that fakenews? It's long been disproven! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 18:35:35 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 17:06:47 2018. By who, CNN and MSNBC? That girl ran her campaign as crooked as a Sidewinders tracks! |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 21:11:32 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 18:35:35 2018. Just about ve y analyst out there. Excluding Murdoch. Which is no surprise.If Sec Clinton was "crooked", why hasn’t,t any she been charged with any crimes? Ever? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 13 21:58:38 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 12 23:46:17 2018. No It wouldn't matter at all. If I'm wrong & Roe v. Wade is overturned, abortions will be treated like recreational pot smoking, as in Illegal on a federal level but "legal" on a state level on a state by state basis. Women should not worry. One way or another, they will still be able to kill their babies. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 13 22:44:02 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 13 16:41:22 2018. Assuming Trump is not impeachedThat "assumes" a "blue wave" this November. I see a lot of discontent on the "blue" side, so fat chance. There is nothing that he could be charged with for impeachment. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 23:17:43 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 13 21:58:38 2018. Women in Every state need to worry. Those upper and middle class that can (and for the most part already are) will head to states where the medical care is legal. Poor women in states where medical services are banned will try amateur medical abortions, this ethat fail to work will then turn to back alleys, and women will die.Women in states that allow full spectrum of women's medical care will have a harder time accessing such, as providers will be overwhelmed by out of state patients paying cash. Every woman has PLENTY to worry about. What kind of callous thinking brought you to that conclusion? Someone from the Heritage foundation or Federalist society on teevee? They're both full throated against women having equal rights of self determination. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 23:18:36 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 13 22:44:02 2018. I wouldn’t talk so definitively. They're more dissent within the republicans. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 23:28:57 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 21:11:32 2018. Because she's CROOKED!! DUH!! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 23:36:40 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 23:18:36 2018. Your new name is Beingwrong! |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 23:51:04 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 23:28:57 2018. Prove that. Not body has yet. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 23:52:05 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 23:36:40 2018. No, it isn’t,t. Especially on this. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 23:53:29 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 23:51:04 2018. People with Bell's Palsy laugh at how crooked she is. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 23:58:43 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 23:52:05 2018. Yes, you are wrong. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Jul 14 01:29:08 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 23:17:43 2018. iawtp |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Jul 14 07:07:10 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 23:17:43 2018. WABB. Histrionics aside, why would women be going to other states already when Roe has only been challenged in the mind of hysterical liberals who are looking to panic the electorate. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Jul 14 07:11:46 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 13 23:18:36 2018. Correct for once, bingbong. But that is not real dissent but anger at Liberalism and how best to squash the blue. Beware of the coming RED WAVE. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 14 08:21:36 2018, in response to Re: Cuomo: New York will sue if Supreme Court rolls back Roe v. Wade, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 13 23:53:29 2018. Obviously you're one of them. It's bad form for a public servant to mock those with pre-existing conditions. |
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