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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 10:25:05 2013 BuzzFeed
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 28 11:05:32 2013, in response to Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 10:25:05 2013. Good for them. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 28 11:35:47 2013, in response to Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 10:25:05 2013. They shouldn't get too happy. The ruling was not about all forms of relationship being equal, just that there was no rational basis to favor 1 to 1 mappings of different gender couples over same gender couples. The government does not recognize any 1 to n mappings or n to n mappings and for many practical reasons. If they did however they would have to recognize both polygamy and polyandry and all combinations thereof. Hell, the government doesn't have to sanction any marriage at all and just treat everyone as individuals, but in the words of Spider Man they decided that everybody gets one. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 28 12:50:45 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 28 11:05:32 2013. It is for them. Maybe not for society. Or maybe it is. I wish I knew. |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 13:15:57 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 28 12:50:45 2013. Awesome!!A Guy we know lives with twin girls He married one but the other did not want to separate from her sister He has kids with both All three share the same huge bed IMO he is the LUCKIEST GUY ON EARTH!!!! But he should be able to marry both! |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 13:18:38 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 28 11:35:47 2013. One is NOT enough! |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 28 13:21:50 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 28 12:50:45 2013. It makes no difference to them, despite what they might think.Part of what has made being gay respectable is that people came to understand that just because you're gay doesn't mean that you're a bad influence on children or a danger to children. Also, being gay doesn't mean that you raise your children to be gay. In contrast, the polygamist groups in UT and AZ have inherent child abuse risks built into their society. Until they figure out a way to fix those, they will never gain any sort of respectability. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 14:06:05 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jun 28 11:35:47 2013. The ruling was not about all forms of relationship being equalHilarious. Yes it was. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jun 28 14:21:39 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 28 13:21:50 2013. Do you really think that there is something inherent in polygamy that causes them to be attracted to children? Isn't that what they used to say about gays? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 28 14:23:30 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 13:15:57 2013. As the old joke goes:The difference between a single man and a married man; The single man wants to screw every woman he sees. The married man wants to screw every woman he sees - except one. or in his case, perhaps two? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 14:27:32 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 28 14:21:39 2013. "They"? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 28 14:30:42 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 28 13:21:50 2013. "In contrast, the polygamist groups in UT and AZ have inherent child abuse risks built into their society. "Can you explain what you mean? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 28 14:32:30 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 28 13:21:50 2013. But polygamy has a lot of historical precedent. Gay marriage is something that has been considered legitimate and not a joke for only a short time. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 14:33:10 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 28 14:30:42 2013. It's a liberal-speak way of expressing prejudice against Mormons. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 28 14:34:41 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Easy on Fri Jun 28 14:21:39 2013. Do you really think that there is something inherent in polygamy that causes them to be attracted to children?Absolutely not. Whatever gave you that idea? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 28 14:35:10 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 14:33:10 2013. The polygamists aren't Mormons. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 28 14:37:57 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 14:33:10 2013. Mormons outlawed polygamy in the 19th Century and claim to excommunicate members of the church who enter into polygamist unions. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 28 14:39:35 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 28 14:30:42 2013. Sure.Hildale, UT and Colorado City, AZ, have an equal number of boys and girls growing up year by year. As these kids become teenagers, thought is given to their eventually getting married. Oops. Every boy uses up 3 girls. There's a surplus of boys with no girls their age to marry. What to do? I don't know what the right answer for such a society would be. I do know what's happening right now, though. The excess boys get expelled from the community, typically at an age like 15 or so. They drive the boys to St. George and tell them to have a nice life. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 28 14:44:30 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 28 14:39:35 2013. Well at least they don't kill off the excess males!I'm by no means agreeing with you but I now have a place to look. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jun 28 15:03:23 2013, in response to Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 10:25:05 2013. If two or more consenting adults want to marry each other cool. Race, Religion, or Gender or # should NOT be a factor. If they can raise children in a happy home which provides the necessary support to raise a successful child then what is the harm? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 28 15:07:22 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jun 28 15:03:23 2013. The harm is what actually happens in Hildale, UT and Colorado City, AZ. :( |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 15:54:26 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 28 11:05:32 2013. Polygamy is illegal per Federal Law.No marriage equality law permits any relationship except that between two consenting monogamous adults. So they ought to get over themselves. Nobody will legitimize what they're doing. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jun 28 16:22:41 2013, in response to Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 10:25:05 2013. Absolutely, nice to see you finally post something I can agree with. A broken clock is right twice a day, after allI do not support marriage at all. In any way shape or form, however, the Supreme Court ruling this week bought tears to my eyes nonetheless. I feel that those who support the institution of marriage should be free to do so. I have no right to condemn something just because I do not think it is my cup of tea. I truly feel if more people subscribed to this belief the people of this world could focus on what the real problems are. Excuse me while I run for cover and y'all "have at it" so to speak. It should be a good show or maybe not, LET' US SEE shall we? 8-) Peace, ANDEE ANDEE |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jun 28 16:41:59 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 28 11:05:32 2013. Here's food for thought, why is it that many, not all but many, straight men, are turned on by the thought of two women getting it on, but are repulsed when it is two men getting it on? Can you say double standard, boys and girls? Just sayin'Oh and please try to keep this discussion out of the gutter. But, I feel that may be asking too much of many men here . Have at It. 8-) Peace., ANDEE |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 17:04:45 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 15:54:26 2013. Polygamy is illegal per Federal LawSo what So was gay marriage Proves nothing No marriage equality law permits any relationship except that between two consenting monogamous adults Doesn't mean it is right Laws banning gay marriage were wrong Laws banning multiple marriages are also wrong So they ought to get over themselves. Nobody will legitimize what they're doing Thats what they said about gay marriage years ago too Monogamy is so obsolete All it does is cause jealousy and "cheating" Free love baby - its the only way to go! |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 28 17:07:14 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 28 14:37:57 2013. and many religions excommunicate/eject gay people.That hasn't stopped gay marriage. Either way, the polygamists' joy is premature. The Court did not recognize any right for people to marry whomever they want. It's just said that the Federal Government has no right to not recognize marriages that are otherwise legal in these United States. No different than some States allowing marriages between first cousins and others not doing so. The Feds recognize them either way for federal purposes and benefits. The issue of polygamy would only come up if some State were to recognize multi-person marriages. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 28 17:10:02 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 15:54:26 2013. Polygamy is illegal per Federal Law.FALSE! It stopped being illegal under federal law 48 hours ago. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 28 17:18:00 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 28 17:10:02 2013. Ah, but if Utah recognized polygamous marriages as valid, could the US still kick Utah out of the Union? I think so. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 28 17:40:44 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by AlM on Fri Jun 28 17:18:00 2013. Ah, but if Utah recognized polygamous marriages as valid, could the US still kick Utah out of the Union? I think so.Nope. the Union in one, indivisible and perpetual. Once you're in, you're in. Put another way, if such a condition were still valid AFTER it has been admitted, it would give Utah a legal roadmap to secession. There are no such roadmaps. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 28 17:41:33 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 17:04:45 2013. If it weren't for all those federal laws that went out of their way to discriminate against them in the first place, there wouldn't have been the need for any of this to begin with. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 17:45:55 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 17:04:45 2013. Millions of Americans disagree. If one is so selfish as to cheat on a marriage, maybe they shouldn't be married to begin with. Sort out your life before commitment to another.Polygamy uses and demeans all involved. It creates anchor less children, who do not see their parents as equals and in some cases aren't even sure who one of their actual parents ARE. This is no way to raise children capable of functioning in the 21st century, and leaves them at a loss to develop relationships of their own that are healthy and compatible with modern thinking. They don't get the model of normal (legal) relationships between adults while growing up. |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 17:51:57 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 17:45:55 2013. Millions of Americans disagree.They disagreed with gay marriage too at one time - so what Polygamy uses and demeans all involved. Why? What if a group of swingers want to cross-marry each other? What if a dominatrix wants to marry her "slaves" to keep them legally committed to her? relationships of their own that are healthy and compatible with modern thinking you mean "relationships" that are compatible with your way of thinking Free love is making a comeback Marriage is going to be obsolete soon Although an open marriage and swinging is real cool |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 28 17:53:58 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 17:45:55 2013. Polygamy uses and demeans all involved. It creates anchor less children, who do not see their parents as equals and in some cases aren't even sure who one of their actual parents ARE. This is no way to raise children capable of functioning in the 21st century, and leaves them at a loss to develop relationships of their own that are healthy and compatible with modern thinking. They don't get the model of normal (legal) relationships between adults while growing up.Put another way...you just don't like polygamy. |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 17:54:27 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 28 17:41:33 2013. Marriage sucks anywaymostly because most married women don't anyway dogging rocks no commitment no strings attached raw fun |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 18:07:23 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 17:51:57 2013. Marriage will never be obsolete. Sad thing is, the USA will be obsolete before that. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jun 28 18:39:00 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 18:07:23 2013. Thanks to freaks like you. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 28 18:40:26 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 18:07:23 2013. Marriage will never be obsolete.True. In fact, the gays just reinvigorated that otherwise dying institution. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jun 28 18:42:55 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 28 14:23:30 2013. lol |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 18:44:14 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 18:07:23 2013. Nah - they will find a cure for AIDS and other STDs somedayThen we will be dogging in the streets again Who needs marriage when you can have free love |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 28 18:50:10 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 18:44:14 2013. You can have free love without contracting STDs. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 28 19:59:25 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 17:45:55 2013. See. Just changing one word makes you sound like a right-wing bigot. And this is the exact same argument they used and still use. It's time to put it away. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 21:11:46 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 28 17:53:58 2013. It is a harmful practice that belongs back in the Stone Age. |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 21:26:31 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 21:11:46 2013. Monogamy belongs in the stone ageSex should be as common as shaking hands between people who like each other no strigs attached no jealous husbands or lovers living arrangements should be temporary "till death do us part" does NOT work it only leads to jealousy, cheating and divorce |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 21:34:33 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 21:26:31 2013. So you're going to have your estate divided up by everyone you've ever slept with? Somehow I don't think so. Piss off one woman and she'll pull the plug on you? Want to pay their bills? Without legal structures to regulate relationships, all of those could happen legally. |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 21:41:32 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 21:34:33 2013. shagging should be funkids can be protected by contract aside from that anything goes with anyone marriage sucks shag me baby! |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 21:43:38 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 21:34:33 2013. by the way - lots of women want three ways with two guysits a lot more common than you think polygamy does not have to be one man with many women women should have the right to marry as many men as they want too |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 21:48:40 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 21:43:38 2013. I don't care. Everyone can do what they want. Only monogamous relationships get to marry. |
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Posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 21:57:22 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 21:48:40 2013. Why?because "its the law" gay marriage bans were also "the law" but that changed many people are already choosing not to marry more kids being born to single moms than ever before more women are cheating than ever before monogamy will be history real soon |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 28 21:58:50 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 21:41:32 2013. Children need a lot more than a contract to ensure they grow to be rational sane functional people. Like 2 parents to provide love guidance and attention for starters. They are far more than the result of unprotected sex. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 28 22:04:16 2013, in response to Re: Polygamists celebrate SCOTUS DOMA ruling, posted by fwt9000 on Fri Jun 28 21:57:22 2013. Then society will fall apart. |
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