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Republicans Block Hagel Nomination |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 14 17:09:07 2013 Story hereI don't think Hagel is a good appointment, and the Republican requests for more information prior to his confirmation vote is not unreasonable. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 14 17:19:12 2013, in response to Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 14 17:09:07 2013. A backbone? Do I detect a backbone?Probably not. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 17:19:30 2013, in response to Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 14 17:09:07 2013. BO should have appointed a Democrat. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 14 17:20:17 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 17:19:30 2013. He did. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 17:22:39 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 14 17:19:12 2013. Obama should find a recycling exeutive who can handle the issuse of scrap metal markets as we reduce the country's war profile. Want spending cuts, Here's our trillion dollar cash cow. |
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Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 17:28:46 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 14 17:20:17 2013. Shit like that is why you Nazis no longer deserve even a vote. Hagel is a Republican. its just that you Fox News addicts are so far out that the Party of Lincoln no longer exists and even Wall Street is starting to notice. America needs a new major party to the left of the current Democrats and a left wing Joe McCarthy to manage the reeducation of you Nazis. |
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Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 18:30:57 2013, in response to Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 14 17:09:07 2013. This is as close to criminal as you can get. The guy is NOT a criminal, nor does he exhibit the kind of behavior in his personal life that could jeopardize the security of the US. There is NO reason to not proceed with the Senate's final consent vote and appoint Mr Hagel to the position he will serve in at the pleasure of the President.This is *bullshit*. Flat out *bullshit*. The republicans should be ashamed. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 18:36:02 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 18:30:57 2013. The Nazis know no shame. BO ought to nominate a scrap man to milk the unnecessary Pentagon cash cow. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 14 18:40:38 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 18:36:02 2013. Here's hoping nothing comes down "over there" while we don't have a defense secretary. :( |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 14 19:11:16 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 18:30:57 2013. If this were Senate democrats blocking a Republican appointee, you would have been cheering their "courage." |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 19:18:29 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 14 19:11:16 2013. The only republican Cabinet candidate I recall being blocked was John Tower, and that was for very good reason.You forget what they did to President Clinton's appointees to Attorney General. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Feb 14 19:18:58 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 17:28:46 2013. Excellent post.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 14 19:20:08 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 14 17:20:17 2013. Hagel is such a flaming liberal that his lifetime rating with the American Conservative Union is 83.7. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 14 19:38:19 2013, in response to Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 14 17:09:07 2013. Good appointment ir not, no other Cabinet nominee has ever been asked for such info. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 14 19:38:53 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 19:18:29 2013. IAWTP |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 19:41:26 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 18:30:57 2013. What is "criminal" about what they are doing. Please be specific and lets have no more of your flap-jaw histrionics. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 19:42:27 2013, in response to Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 14 17:09:07 2013. The republicans are asking for information WRT Benghazi, which as NOTHING to do with the Defense Dept.If anything that falls into the purview of the State Dept. There are no answers to most of the ridiculous questions a few republicans are asking. |
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Re: Republicans Delay Hagel Nomination |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 14 19:42:41 2013, in response to Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 14 17:09:07 2013. Just a delay till next week.From one political website: One senator — Orrin Hatch (R-UT) — voted present. If he’d voted ‘yes,’ the debate on Hagel’s nomination would’ve ended and he’d be on a glide path to confirmation. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) changed his vote from yes to no, to preserve his procedural right to reconsider the issue at his discretion, likely after next week’s President’s Day recess. By then the issue should be a formality. Multiple GOP senators, including John McCain (R-AZ), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and Lamar Alexander (R-TN), have all announced that they intend to switch their votes from no to yes when the issue comes before the Senate just over a week from now. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 14 19:42:41 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 14 19:20:08 2013. Damn ... THAT low a score? No wonder. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 19:52:15 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 19:41:26 2013. That which is close does not cross the line. In the future, please read and comprehend posts to the forum prior to responding. Everyone here will thank you for that. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 19:56:56 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 19:52:15 2013. And again I will ask, what crime is it close to. No back-peddling! |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 20:02:58 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 19:56:56 2013. Anything close to criminal is not criminal. Did you not read what I wrote? Standing by the original statement is NOt "back pedaling". |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:08:32 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 17:28:46 2013. Hagel is a liberal Republican who served his country with distinction while in uniform. There are, however, some questions about his thinking, now. The Democrats may have won the White House but they have not yet won the right to circumvent the "Advice and Consent" clause of the Constitution. Until then duly elected representatives of the people are expected to be satisfied through questioning, that the nominee is well suited to serve. They are not Nazis. The people who support this scrutiny are not Nazis. It's the people who rant and rave against people who believe in our constitution and do not blindly follow the party whim who are the true Nazis. Reality checks are in order. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:09:30 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 20:02:58 2013. What crime are they close to committing? Why can't you answer a simple question and back up your idiotic claim? |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 20:14:02 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:09:30 2013. Why are you asking an idiotic question? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 20:21:15 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:08:32 2013. I wish BO had picked a Democrat who understands that the relationship between the US and Israel must be kept strong. Hagel won't do material damage to this relationship. However, the reaction by the Republicans in digging up Hagel's earlier statements WILL damage this relationship. Using the state of Israel as a political football IS "Bad for the Jews" BTW, How 'bout Caspar Weinburger and Jonathan Pollard.??? I called my congressman today and reminded him that a Pollard Pardon now could remind everyone what the TRUE relationship between the GOP and the Jewish People really is.The Republicans ARE Nazis. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:21:52 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 20:14:02 2013. First, it's not an idiotic question. It's a question to an idiot.Second, I'm asking you to clarify a point that you made - idiotic that it may be. Third. It's obvious that you get a free pass here with much of your bullshit because the majority of people in this community are of the liberal persuasion and it is seemingly against the liberal code to challenge even the most idiotic arguments if they are pro-liberal. There are some here who do and will continue to hold you accountable for your idiotic thoughts. Now are you going to explain what it is that you think is almost criminal about congress living by the "Advise and Consent" clause of the constitution? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:25:34 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 20:21:15 2013. Hagel (a liberal Republican), who is an honorable man. was picked because the obama administration felt that if sequestration went through and things turned very bad in this country, it would be nice to have a Republican holding the bag. Sorry but that's the way it is and and I'm sorry that Hagel does not see the reality that he's being used. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:35:09 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:25:34 2013. By the way, I didn't mean to ignore your comments about Hagel's thoughts on Israel. In a real sense, Hagel will be there to implement the policies of his boss as they apply to the Defense Department. If he finds that Obama's policy severely conflict with his own beliefs as applied to Israel, he has the option to resign the position if he cannot rationalize and resolve the difference. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 20:48:42 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:25:34 2013. As I said, Obama should have picked a Democrat. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:52:21 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 19:18:29 2013. More of your mis-statements?"Blocking such a high-level presidential appointee is a rare move. Since 1917, when the Senate’s modern filibuster rules were created, a cabinet-level nominee has faced a supermajority barrier to confirmation only twice: Ronald Reagan’s nominee for commerce secretary in 1987, C. William Verity Jr., and George W. Bush’s nominee for interior secretary in 2006, Dirk Kempthorne. http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2013/02/on-the-island-with-media-matters-it-depends-on-the-meaning-of-this-way.html Now do you want to post anything to support your argument? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:53:53 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Feb 14 20:48:42 2013. I agree |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:54:58 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 14 19:38:53 2013. But she is totally wrong. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 20:56:27 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:21:52 2013. You're wrong to begin with, as I am not an idiot.The entire premise of you post, therefore, is invalid. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 20:58:29 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:52:21 2013. ...The only republican Cabinet candidate I recall being blocked...He is the only one I recalled when I posted that. How can that possibly be a misstatement? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:59:04 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 20:56:27 2013. You obviously are an idiot but we shan't debate the point. Give me a valid law that the Republicans are "close to breaking" and I will retract the comment about you being an idiot. Otherwise, you are just showing yourself to be just another fool who speaks out of her ass. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 14 21:00:43 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:52:21 2013. Simplistic analogy. Neither Verity nor Kempthorne were blocked by the Senate.Verity was "threatened" to be filibustered by Republicans as not being conservative enough. In the end, he was approved by 84 votes. Kempthorne was never seriously threatened by a fiflibuster and he was approved on a voice vote. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 21:03:14 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 20:58:29 2013. It took me all of 2 minutes to find something a bit more factual than your flawed and partisan memory. Do you think that shoveling garbage will give you any credibility? |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 21:03:39 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:59:04 2013. I don't care about your being so foolish as to not retract your completely inaccurate claim to my mental status. I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that I am not an idiot, so your entire premise is invalid and does not merit a response.May I suggest your taking some to time to focus on remedying your comprehension inadequacies? |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 21:04:30 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 21:03:14 2013. None of which was factual. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 21:06:37 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 14 21:00:43 2013. Of course you mean, Democrats, don't you? Again while you call it simplistic, it is factually correct while you blindly agreed with bing-bongs statement which was totally false. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 21:09:04 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 21:03:39 2013. hahahahah - I will try to do just that. But thank you for an impressive demonstration for your ability to talk out of your ass. I guess you simply can't defend your argument nor are you adult enough to admit your error. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 21:10:02 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 21:04:30 2013. Oh and to paraphrase you - If you have no link, it isn't true. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Thu Feb 14 21:10:06 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 21:04:30 2013. You were not wrong. See my post. Verity and Kempthorne were NOT blocked or filibustered. And Tower was not filibustered. He was just voted down 53-47 for reasons of his womanizing and alcoholism. He got the courtesy of an up or down vote. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Thu Feb 14 21:12:04 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 21:06:37 2013. No, read my post. Republicans. And neither one was actually filibustered. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 14 21:15:17 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Italianstallion on Thu Feb 14 21:10:06 2013. Lawsy ... you mean Train Dude was wrong? Nah ... couldn't happen. He's got all the resources of freepers and Beck solidly behind his claims ... emphasis on behind. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 21:16:01 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 20:25:34 2013. The threat of sequestration is the result of a crisis fully and totally manufactured by the republicans. So in taking the argument down to such a petit level, it remains perfectly logical to put a republican in that position. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 14 21:17:35 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Italianstallion on Thu Feb 14 21:12:04 2013. 
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 21:17:51 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 14 21:09:04 2013. I am neither taking "out of my ass" nor in error. Your lacking in reading comprehension is not my doing. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 21:19:04 2013, in response to Re: Republicans Block Hagel Nomination, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 14 21:15:17 2013. The same one he's been talking out of this evening. |
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