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Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......) |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:38:06 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 16 01:33:15 2016. Awesome! I'd do the same. |
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Re: What is this? An election |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 16 01:45:01 2016, in response to Re: What is this? An election (Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When .......), posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:38:06 2016. I actually take that as quite an honor :).You pretty much won this thread hands down. Not sure why it's still going but w/e. Just like the election discussions in the media... |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 16 01:55:56 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 19:40:14 2016. I admitted when I was mistaken by a few years when the bus routes were renumbered but it still did not affect the larger point.It still took you a really long time to admit that. {Please don't make me find and link the posts where you stuck to that assertion}. Most can't stand your guts because you constantly insult for no reason and refuse to have rational discussions just to prove you are right. You are correct here. It makes it difficult to be friendly towards him, since he's insulted other people I like and respect around here. Probably me a few times too. However try and take the person out of the equation and simply look at the facts of the matter. If you can take emotion out of it (which I understand is difficult) can you still honestly say he's wrong here? |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sun Oct 16 09:34:25 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 16:52:50 2016. Lets's get this back on topic. Was it Norton or Ralph who came up with the idea for even and odd buses? |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:46:56 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:08:51 2016. That is the biggest joke of all time. You calling someone else obnoxious and annoying.If the second scenario is what happened, they are still guilty for liking an idea just because one of their own suggested it. Operations Planninf should be eager to accept worthwhile suggestions from outside departments as well as from the public. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:47:44 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:06:38 2016. Then why did he tell me he did not like the idea? Answer that one. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:50:26 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 00:35:39 2016. And you have no way of knowing otherwise.And my previous response also applies that a good idea has just as much merit no matter who suggested it. There would be no reason to wait for someone else inside the department to suggest the same thing for it to be accepted. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:51:07 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:05:35 2016. Go ahead have the last word. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:52:22 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:05:01 2016. And as I stated if the MTA accepted an idea suggested by an idiot, that makes them idiots too. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:57:30 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 16 00:01:30 2016. Yes the idea was common sense which happened to be the final line in my New York Times letter in 1974. So the question remains why the MTA did not renumber the Manhattan crosstown routes according to street numbers in 1974 when there was a massive renumbering?It's because they did not think of it until I suggested it. And I would like to add that the MTA told my boss in 1974 that the next time they renumber bus routes they will do it my way. But twelve years later, there were different people in charge. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:58:53 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:11:48 2016. I have had countless arguments with you with you using circular logic and changing the point being discussed by focusing on minutia. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 10:17:15 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:12:17 2016. I am not the only one here who believes you constantly change the issue.Why do you think we are even discussing this now? The subject was Woodhaven Boulevard. You kept calling me a liar and an idiot. So I brought up my New York Times letter in order to prove I am not an idiot because the NYT does not print letters from idiots. You responded that they do. I responded that isn't possible because letters written in poor English are NEVER published and idiots CANNOT write well. Besides I wrote the idea and it was accepted by the MTA proving it was not written by an idiot. Then you started arguing that the MTA never accepted MY idea. That someone else must have also suggested it WITHOUT ANY PROOF. And even if such is the case, everyone agrees it was a good idea, I suggested it, and the MTA implemented it. So there is no problem. Yet you keep on calling me a liar and idiot and SHIFT the discussion to say I am usually wrong about most everything. So according to you I have to be wrong now too. Yes this is getting as bad as the Trump - Hillary debate because you can't focus on the real issues but can only make accusations in order to divert attention and keep this debate going. When will you stop already? Why do you need to have the last word? Please don't respond so this can end now. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 10:20:45 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 16 00:16:11 2016. What you say makes sense.So let me ask you how come when the MTA recently renovated the elevated stations of the Brighton Line, why did they choose the make Avenues H, J, M, U and Neck Road all look identical? |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 10:22:18 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 00:38:14 2016. How many times have you called me a liar now in this thread? It has to be at least 100. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:28:26 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:47:44 2016. I have no idea. He could be a jerk. Or he could have been telling the truth. Or maybe he just didn't like you. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:35:30 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:50:26 2016. I never claimed otherwise. My point is that you can't definitively say it was YOUR idea that triggered the change especially since it's very likely that many other people had the same idea, particularly in light of the fact that you said the M14 was renumbered many years before.I never said it wasn't a good idea and I never said it needed to originate from within the organization. Again, I'm disputing your claim that it was definitively your idea that triggered the change. That's preposterous. It may have been the case but it's not a certainty like you claim. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:35:57 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:51:07 2016. No, you may go ahead and have the last word. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:36:42 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:52:22 2016. No it doesn't! Idiots can have good ideas!!!!! |
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Re: Proof Terrapin Station posts false information |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Oct 16 12:38:03 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:13:06 2016. He is a loser like you because he makes up lies and then refuses to back them up.Sounds like an accurate description of yourself. Of course, you'll never own up to anything, because in your sad little world, you can do no wrong, and dance around the issues to pretend nothing you say is wrong. Projection much? Schedule yourself an appointment with Dr. Ron M. Aryel, I'm sure he'll be glad to help your with your laundry list of problems. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:39:44 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:57:30 2016. There are many possible reasons as to why they did not renumber all of the in 1974!!! Because "they didn't think of it" is very low on the list though!!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:41:36 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 09:58:53 2016. Wrong! Liar! I never knowingly use circular logic! Like I said, you can't show examples because it never happened.There's nothing wrong with thread drift. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:56:29 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 10:22:18 2016. So? I say it when you lie. There's nothing wrong with it. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:07:58 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:28:26 2016. So he could have been telling the truth that he didn't like the idea. Then he does it.Guess that makes him a liar and a jerk for making a change that everyone likes. Your logic is just amazing. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:19:25 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:35:30 2016. Quit changing what I write. I never said the M14 was renumbered many years before. Read what I wrote if you can understand English.See I am right that having an intelligent discussion with you is not possible. You constantly rewrite what I wrote, make nitpicking points, change the subject, use circular logic and do anything to try to prove you are always correct. So now you say it is a good idea. And you can't deny that I proposed it. GOOD IDEAS ARE NOT PROPOSED BY IDIOTS WHICH IS WHAT YOU CALLED ME and is how this whole discussion started. SINCE YOU ADMIT IT US A GOOD IDEA, I COULDN'T POSSBLY BE AN IDIOT AS YOU KEEP STATING INCESSANTLY. SO YOU LOSE. If I was the only one to think of it, or if they made the change because of me or not ARE ALL DIVERSIONS from the original discussion so quit changing the subject. I believe they did use my suggestion, but just in case they only decided to make the change because someone else on their staff also thought of it, is not relevant to my original point. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:20:52 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:36:42 2016. LOL.You don't even know the definition of an idiot. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin Station posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:22:13 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin Station posts false information, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Oct 16 12:38:03 2016. Owned. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:24:33 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:39:44 2016. Try to write a correct English sentence so I can respond.I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say but it looks like you are once again changing what I wrote. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:26:58 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:41:36 2016. I am having one with you right now in this thread where you change what I write, focus on minutia in order not to address the original point. If you are using circular logic without even knowing it, that makes it even worse. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:30:02 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 12:56:29 2016. I don't lie. I may make an occasional mistake which I always admit. That doesn't make me a liar.You are the LIAR by saying virtually everything I post is wrong. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:32:23 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:20:39 2016. You don't even know what sic means. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:37:12 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 16 01:19:14 2016. Think that would start to get too complicated.Did most riders even know the IND's logic regarding cooling of the tiles to give clues where to change from express to local? |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:37:51 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:17:03 2016. Yes. Please do. |
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Re: BrooklynBus does not know how to drive!!!! -- Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:39:35 2016, in response to Re: BrooklynBus does not know how to drive!!!! -- Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:18:07 2016. Well now we all know you can't understand English. As I stated he says nothing about me waiting two seconds was wrong. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:40:20 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:15:57 2016. Copying and pasting too much work for you? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:50:34 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:14:27 2016. I provided you with all the proof.They renumbered bus routes in 1974 not using my idea. I wrote a letter that was printed in 1974 in the NY Times with the idea. The MTA responded to my boss that the next time they renumber bus routes in Manhattan, they will do it my way. I personally explain the idea again to the head of Operations Planning in 1984 (or maybe in 1986) explaining the idea and it is rejected by him. Later in 1986, he accepts he makes the change. You stated that you never said the idea should have to be suggested by someone in his department for it to be accepted. Therefore if someone else from his department also suggested it to him, it would be immaterial. So what type of proof are looking for to PROVE it was my idea that caused them to make the change? A signed notarized statement from the MTA? Wakefield even agrees they used my idea. Let's see what you will twist now to keep alleging I am a liar. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:52:03 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:02:17 2016. For not using racial and ethnic slurs? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:52:42 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 01:01:34 2016. I did in my follow up responses. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:53:49 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 00:54:02 2016. Because you once identified yourself to a reporter as a planner. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 19:01:52 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 00:42:39 2016. See you are changing what I wrote once again. Are you doing it intentionally or are you just sloppy.I never said they owed me a thank you note for my suggestion. My comment referred to someone sending the MTA a suggestion they later implemented. The comment I made regarding my suggestion was that the Director of OP owed me a phone call when he changed his mind and decided to use my idea since the tokd me he wouldn't do it. if anyone else in the organization also thought of it or not is not relevant. What is relevant was I WAS THE ONE WHO TOLD IT TO SOMEONE WITH THE POWER TO MAKE THE CHANGE. And he made it. You even said it wasn't necessary for him to wait for someone in his department to suggest it in order to do it. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 19:02:53 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 00:39:31 2016. Then you are saying most things in life are simple? |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 19:03:51 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 18:03:55 2016. I never said I came up with the idea first. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by R30A on Sun Oct 16 22:23:01 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Oct 16 18:50:34 2016. As almost everyone posting here seems to realize outside of yourself is:There is no way for you to prove your claim. However, since nearly every specific detail you posted about this has been verifiably incorrect, it casts a shadow on your claim. Furthermore, since your timeline, had it been exactly as you said it was, directly disproved your claim, your claim was even less believable. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 17 12:08:58 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 16 00:35:39 2016. Not if I dug up a letter he wrote - - I have yet to do that but maybe Wednesday - - since those clowns are having their final debate tomorrow night. Mr. Rosen was wrong about the 3 weeks, that is clearly established. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 17 12:20:12 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by R30A on Sun Oct 16 22:23:01 2016. Wakefield even agrees they used my idea.Let's see what you will twist now to keep alleging I am a liar. Even when I gave you the benefit of doubt about your claim that it was your idea, you incorrectly stated that it happened on all routes 3 weeks after your interview. You really need to stop posting false information - - as a prime example, I looked at one of your Chicago articles - -you incorrectly mentioned that ...There are only 9 subway stops in Chicago.. Only 8 subway stops in Chiacgo? Incorrect, there are about 40-50 subway stops in Chicago because the city limits include most of the system except the western potions of the Green, Pink, and Blue lines. And you accuse me of trying to discredit you when you are nowhere near an accurate number of subway stops in Chicago in an unrelated article. You can be a better writer when you stop and take you time in making sure your facts are accurate. |
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Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 17 12:22:38 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 17 12:20:12 2016. You are confused. This is one case where he is right. He meant subway as in underground. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 17 12:28:41 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 17 12:22:38 2016. Ok - - then after rereading the article (which I rushed to judgment) - - I apologize to Mr. Rosen about my incorrect statement. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Oct 17 14:36:53 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 17 12:22:38 2016. Despite David's misunderstanding, he is still wrong. It is somewhere around 20 stations. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 17 15:21:48 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Oct 17 12:20:12 2016. I stated that I could have had a second interview with him in 1986, although I do not recall it, so there still was a possbility of it occurring three weeks after the interview. If there was no second interview, then my memory was wrong. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Oct 17 15:22:26 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 17 15:21:48 2016. It happening 3 weeks after the interview would be proof that it had nothing to do with the interview. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Oct 17 15:24:12 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by R30A on Mon Oct 17 15:22:26 2016. Why would you say that? I know you said Board previously that Board approval would have been required, but I do not believe that is the case. |
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