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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 15:12:40 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 14:59:18 2016. Stop with the persecution complex. The only agenda we have is the facts. If you posted something that was completely factual, no one would have any ammunition to discredit you. Similarly if you admitted your mistakes when they were pointed out to you. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:13:17 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Oct 14 14:29:41 2016. Circular logic is his specialty along with nitpicking and changing the subject. |
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Re: BrooklynBus does not know how to drive!!!! -- Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:14:30 2016, in response to Re: BrooklynBus does not know how to drive!!!! -- Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 13 13:44:40 2016. He said no such thing. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 15:15:20 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:08:11 2016. Who said it was "simple and logical?" Please READ!As for it being simple, don't you always complain that the MTA does stupid and complicated things? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:16:41 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:35:25 2016. That is all in your imagination.According to you, the only respected members are the very few who agree with you. Most have more sense than to waste their time arguing with you. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:26:23 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 12:42:57 2016. The only one I accused of lying regarding this subject is Terrapin. Both R30A and Spider Pig have been polite in this thread.I see no reason why bus renumbering would require approval by the MTA Board since large sums of money which do require Board approval are not necessary when bus routes are renumbered. I never said that any Manhattan bus reroutings were my idea so why are you trying to muddy the waters and say something I never even hinted at to divert attention from the fact that the MTA did not think of the rumbering idea on their own in 1975. And that they adopted the idea after I told it to the Director of Operations Planning who would not even admit that such a simple and good idea was good. His exact words were: "I don't think renumbering is necessary. In Chicago, we found out that as long as people knew which routes operated on which streets, that is all that is needed." You are all jealous that I have gotten ideas approved by the MTA whether I was given credit or not and none of you have. That's why you all have made it your mission to try to discredit me. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:37:59 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 12:34:41 2016. Well you did your research and you were wrong. You posted the link that stated all the routes were renumbered around 1989 and that wasn't true. That site you posted also inaccurately stated the M23 was renumbered from the 15 at that time when the 15 ceased to exist on 23 Street in 1974.So you are not always correct either even with your research, but I decided to not make a big deal of it like you are all nitpicking to discredit me ignoring the larger points to be made. As far as stealing ideas, the MTA does that all the time. They use many route suggestions mentioned to them and claim them as their own. My friend told me he was the one suggesting the B31 be rerouted to Kings Highway Station around 1993. Back in 1967 when I was still in high school, I suggested they paint the columns or stripes on the columns to match the route color since they were repainting all the columns anyway at that time. The response was that it sounded like a good idea but "there must be somethng wrong with it or we would have thought of it already." That attitude has not changed much. Then when I went to Chicago for the first time, I saw they use colored stripes on their station signs to designate which route stops at the station. So if it works there, it could have worked here also if the MTA wasn't so arrogant. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:39:41 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 14 12:42:04 2016. It is not almost always. You are lying as usual. My share of mistakes are no greater than anyone else. You gave had your share to regarding factual stuff. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:41:16 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 12:38:21 2016. At least you admit it.But I do not go out of my way to try to discredit you. I respect the stuff you know regarding the importance of good customer communication. Obviously you don't respect me. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:44:40 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by bigbusdriver on Fri Oct 14 13:54:17 2016. There was some minor route changes because of the Javits Center, but I was only focusing on the renumbering. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 15:52:16 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:26:23 2016. I am not envious that you have gotten ideas approved. I do not have lots of ideas that I think should be implemented so this is not an area where I compete with you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 16:07:28 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:37:59 2016. I disagree with your column idea. I think the columns should match the tiling. I also don't think that having the stations color match the lines is that important; it provides no useful information to riders. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 16:16:35 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:41:16 2016. No, I do respect you as much as you respect me (and I thank you for that). You need to take more time in focusing on what you are writing and make sure your information is accurate. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Fri Oct 14 16:21:26 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:12:17 2016. Wow. One racial and one (repeated) ethnic slur in a single rant. Probably no record, but still fairly impressive. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Fri Oct 14 16:22:15 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:09:21 2016. That's not you. Bro, do you even Internet? |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 16:37:31 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:26:23 2016. No, I am disappointed and jealous at the MTA for stealing what is really an excellent idea on your end. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:43:13 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:39:41 2016. Yes it most certainly is "almost always"! I am not lying. Many respected posters here will back me up. Plus the posts themselves don't lie. They clearly show every time you have been wrong. And they show you being wrong far far more often than most other people, partly because you spend most of your time here making supposedly factual statements instead of asking questions and learning. More partlies include you not doing simple research before making statements of fact as well as you being stubborn and not backing down to reassess the situation when someone first tells you that you are wrong. Basically you end up being wrong like 100+ times each time you are wrong about one thing since you keep restating the wrong information for days and days and even weeks. You just won't get the hint that other people here are more knowledgeable than you on many topics. This crosstown bus renumbering thing is a perfect example. You were told you were wrong but you refused to give up. So many people told you that you were wrong. But IN YOUR MIND you remembered the event clearly so how could you possibly be wrong? There people are just haters out to get you and discredit you. It can't possibly be about simple matters of truth and fact. Why in the world would anyone want to simply want only correct information presented? Why would anyone care if others here or Googlers from the internet see wrong information and take it as the truth and use it and convey it to others. What's the harm in that? What's the downside in that? Who cares if we spend all our time here asking questions and receiving the wrong answers. No one really wants the right answers, right? They only what answers. They're not even seriously asking. They just come here to find out information for shits and giggles so they can just forget the info a few minutes later. Why does the truth matter? Who cares? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:44:35 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 16:37:31 2016. But they didnt, obviously. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:45:09 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:26:23 2016. LOL! I made not a single lie! Only you lied. Repeatedly!!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:47:20 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:13:17 2016. Nope on all three. You just say that to divert attention from the fact that you are almost always wrong in almost every post you make. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:48:06 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Oct 14 14:29:41 2016. Nope. You can't find any because none exists. You made the claim. Back it up. LOL. LOSER. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:48:41 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 15:12:40 2016. Excellent post!! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 16:49:34 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:44:40 2016. Those corresponded. The routes were renumbered as part of the Javits route change. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:49:34 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 14:59:18 2016. Completely wrong, as Pigs showed.And as we've already told you, no, your basic points are NOT still correct, and they never were. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 16:52:50 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:44:35 2016. I think it's possible that they stole his idea, but it's unlikely. It's like Kramer's idea for redoing the Cloud Club and for 2.9% financing on a Toyota One Ton. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:54:35 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin Station lies and posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:03:52 2016. Nope. You have no way of knowing that you were the first person with the idea. Or the first person to convey the idea to NYCTA. To claim that it was your idea and that they used it without having any proff whatsoever is irresponsible at best and a lie at worst. I'm not jealous of anything about you. And on the same note, how do you know they've never used any of my ideas??? To make such a claim without having any proff whatsoever is irresponsible at best and a lie at worst. I have not lied at all. Only you have. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:57:55 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:08:11 2016. LOL!!!! People at "the MTA" are well aware of what goes on here! They almost certainly knew the M/V thing was being discussed here without any non-MTA employee-SubChatter directly/formally submitting the idea to them. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:59:19 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:08:11 2016. It's also very incorrect that they have very few original ideas of their own. That's a downright stupid statement and another great example of you lying. You're so envious of them. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 17:02:33 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by fdtutf on Fri Oct 14 16:22:15 2016. If true, that's hilarious. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 17:02:43 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:09:21 2016. Link? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 17:06:43 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:09:54 2016. Not a lie. 100% true. You want me to start posting all your failures? Could you even handle that? Emotionally? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 17:09:09 2016, in response to Re: BrooklynBus does not know how to drive!!!! -- Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:14:30 2016. LOL!!! Yes he did. Read the part that is underlined. He is saying why your stated reason for waiting two seconds is a bad reason. He already said it previously and you've seen it. And now he's elaborating. You have no reading comprehension. LOL!!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 17:10:17 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 15:16:41 2016. Nope. More lies from you, you damn liar. I have occasionally disagrees with many respected members of this forum, of which there are many. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 17:15:17 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 16:52:50 2016. If no one ever had that idea before, which is ridiculously unlikely, then it is possible they "stole" his idea. But since the odds are so low, I feel confident to say that they obviously didn't, and certainly not in the manner he originally described (three weeks from rejection to implementation). That was his original "proff" that they stole his idea. Obviously it didn't happen like that, now for more reasons than originally imagined. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 17:16:37 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:44:35 2016. Even if it was 5 years down the road, they stole Allan Rosen's idea. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 17:51:36 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 15:12:40 2016. I did admit my mistakes when they were pointed out. Don't lie.I just didn't accept everything on Wakefield's link as true, because it all wasn't true. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 17:51:47 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:48:41 2016. No. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 17:55:40 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 15:15:20 2016. You first used the word "simple", not me. I added "logical" because the two ideas go together. Sorry, if you believe it was simple and illogical. Most would not agree with you.The MTA does many stupid things. I never said anything about "complicated" because the fact is that most things are more complicated than many realize. Few things in life are "simple." |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 17:58:56 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:57:55 2016. I am not denying that but that isn't the issue. We were talking about giving credit where credit is due. If someone submitted the idea to the MTA, they should receive credit at least with a thank you letter. It doesn't have to be a public thank you.But if the MTA eavesdrops and hears something discussed here, they need not give anyone credit, but they shouldn't pretend it was their idea either. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 18:00:36 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:59:19 2016. I was referring only to route change ideas in my comment. Of course the MTA has many other ideas of their own.You are the only one around here who is envious, you wanna be planner. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 18:01:07 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 15:52:16 2016. Okay. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 18:01:55 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 17:51:36 2016. No, you didn't, as you continued to claim it was 1984 when it was shown to be 1986 and continuing later. If your point was always that it didn't matter when exactly it was, then why not just come right out and say that it doesn't matter. What was the point of arguing for 1984? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 18:03:55 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 17:55:40 2016. I said simple. You said "simple and logical." I do not agree that those things go together.Just because I didn't say it was logical doesn't mean I think it was illogical. I made no claims whatsoever as to logicality. That it was simple and logical actually makes your claim to have come up with the idea first to be even more dubious. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 18:10:20 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 16:07:28 2016. I agree with you that the columns should match the tiling which is what the MTA is trying to do now. It makes the station's look prettier.I was talking about a suggestion made 50 years ago, not one I am making now. At that time there was no attempt to hatch columns to tile. All the columns were painted olive drab green on the bottom and off white on top. There was a program to repaint them all. They were all repainted blue on the outside and yellow on the inside. I saw no reason for every column to be painted the same way so I suggested painting them to match the colors then in effect. Where two lines shared a track alternate columns would have had the same color. It would have provided useful information since you could easily tell which track to wait on. Remember, the color system was different back them with trunk lines having more than one color. It was a good idea at that time since the columns were all being repainted anyway and there really was no significant additional cost. That does not mean it is a good idea today. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 18:12:05 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by fdtutf on Fri Oct 14 16:21:26 2016. I disagree with the racial and ethnic slurs because they are totally inappropriate. But not with the rest of the content. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 18:13:44 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by fdtutf on Fri Oct 14 16:22:15 2016. I meant I corrected the link here. I never said it was me. I would never use racial and ethnic slurs like that because it is completely innappropriate. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 18:39:40 2016, in response to Re: Proof BrooklynBus posts false information, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 18:10:20 2016. The better approach would be to have each station on a line look unique, to allow regular travelers to more easily notice where to get off.The significant cost is that they'd have to stock different paints. It would also get complicated where there were multiple routes on the same track. But you make a valid point as well. |
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Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 19:23:28 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Oct 14 16:37:31 2016. I wanted them to do it which is why I told them about it. I really didn't expect any credit or even a thank you.But what was most annoying was that they told me it wasn't a good idea and they saw no reason to use it, then went ahead and did it anyway. If I can find my copy of the NYT letter, I will post it. I might have even scanned it awhile ago but who knows where I filed it under. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 19:24:13 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 14 16:44:35 2016. They certainly did, obviously. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 14 19:25:18 2016, in response to Re: Proof Terrapin is full of BS When he calls me factually and logically incorrect, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 14 16:52:50 2016. It's not unlikely at all since I personally told it to the person who made the change. It's not like he had to read it somewhere. |
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