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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:13:48 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 13:53:32 2016. I have disproved nearly every post you have made where you have used numbers. |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:14:18 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 13:56:27 2016. Easy to claim. Hard to prove. Impossible to believe. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:14:45 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 13:57:29 2016. Certainly not nonsense. Many people clearly believe such. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:21:22 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by R30A on Tue Jul 5 14:42:29 2016. Of course there is evidence they are not valuing the time of car and truck drivers by initially proposing 26 left turn bans on Woodhaven Blvd amongst many other reasons.DOT has not proved that the total number of minutes saved is greater than the total number of minutes lost. Not only have cars lost considerable time, buses are also operating slower between Metropolitan and Furmanville. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE TO ASSUME BUS PASSENGER TRIPS WILL BE 30 PECENT QUICKER when this is all said and done with as DOT has alleged. And you never talked about treating everyone equally. All you care about is preferential treatment for pedestrians, cyclists and bus riders. To say someone's time who earns a greater income is worth more than someone who earns a lesser income is not an elitist viewpoint. It is just the truth and how legal damages are determined. When someone is killed through someone else's negligence, the court determines how much is awarded by estimating how much money that person would have earned if he had lived out his full life. So if I am an elitist, our entire court system is as well. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:22:26 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:07:18 2016. "It certainly is a ridiculous assumption TO ASSUME someone else would have found the error considering you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE MTA's CHECKS AND BALANCES."LOL. More absurd assertions. ""I'd trust the average person on the street more than I would trust you." Same here buddy." Thank you. Seriously. I could receive no greater compliment than to have my judgement questioned by somebody with such poor judgement as yourself. "So if the job wasn't difficult, which it was, and it wasn't simple either, what is the third choice?" Difficult is the opposite of easy. Simple is the opposite of complicated. There are difficult things which are simple and easy things which are complicated. Jumping 10 feet in the air is hard, but it is simple. Doing my taxes is somewhat complicated, but no task within the overall project is inherently difficult. "Of course there is someone on this planet less capable than me. I suspect there are many." On a planet with billions of people, such is an inevitable reality. "When someone replies that I was doing my job properly for one day out of 25 years by saving $4 million on that day, it is clear that the inference is I shoukd be saving $4 million every day." That is not only not clear, it is simply not true. (And I was being rather generous to you. Even on that day, I suspect someone else would have been a better fit for your position.) "THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH MY INTERPRETATION." Yes, there absolutely is. As in most of your arguments, the premises are completely disconnected from your conclusions. "But now you are denying that is what you strongly implied because you now realize what a DUMB statement that was for you to make, so you are trying to do damage control." As I have never made such an implication, and have consistently denied making such an implication, perhaps you are missing the obvious answer: I never made such an implication. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:24:38 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:11:32 2016. BrooklynBus: "Nothing was disclaimed by the editor."Editor: "Editor’s note: Portions of this article were significantly changed due to factual errors that have since been corrected. The premise behind those errors remain in strikeout as a matter of transparency, while some commentary has been deleted or changed. We regret the error." Some disconnect here... |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:26:01 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by R30A on Tue Jul 5 14:46:42 2016. Yes, but the prudent thing to do now rather than proceeding blindly is to determine why car travel has been slowed by 38 percent on that small segment in one direction during the peak hour BEFORE IMP,EMENTING THE REST OF THE PLAN which could further slow down travel.Interesting how you now refer to it as only "ONE PEAK HOUR" when before you were claiming that data for only ONE PEAK HOUR was all that was required since volumes are lighter at all other times. Typical inconsistencies by you. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:28:50 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Tue Jul 5 14:48:05 2016. A. I merely stated that someone could make that argument if they wanted to.I NEVER STATED IT AS FACT.B. When buses are given preferential treatment by reducing road capacity even when there are few if any buses operating while car traffic is significant and has to be slowed because of it and cars and trucks are required to take indirect paths to get to their destinations, everyone else's time certainly is being ignored. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:29:56 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by R30A on Tue Jul 5 14:49:55 2016. Again mere accusations and no proof from the person who is not required to present any proof. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:43:22 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:21:22 2016. "Of course there is evidence they are not valuing the time of car and truck drivers by initially proposing 26 left turn bans on Woodhaven Blvd amongst many other reasons."They wanted to ban those 26 left turns SOLELY BECAUSE THEY VALUE THE TIME OF CAR AND TRUCK DRIVERS. "DOT has not proved that the total number of minutes saved is greater than the total number of minutes lost." They have no obligation to do so. "Not only have cars lost considerable time, buses are also operating slower between Metropolitan and Furmanville." A. Project is not complete, so time differences now are meaningless. B. Buses are only operating slower BECAUSE OF ILLEGAL OPERATION OF CARS. "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE TO ASSUME BUS PASSENGER TRIPS WILL BE 30 PECENT QUICKER when this is all said and done with as DOT has alleged." You assume such does not exist, without any justification whatsoever. "And you never talked about treating everyone equally. All you care about is preferential treatment for pedestrians, cyclists and bus riders." Yes. Considering the overwhelmingly unfair allocation of existing resources towards automobiles, it is absolutely essential to give preferential treatment to transit, pedestrians and cyclists. To give preferential treatment to transit pedestrians and cyclists is discriminating against nobody, as EVERYBODY is welcome and able to use those modes. Favoring cars is unacceptable, as a majority of this city does not have access to cars. FURTHERMORE, Transit users, bicyclists, and pedestrians do not cause the severe detrimental environmental effects that drivers do. "To say someone's time who earns a greater income is worth more than someone who earns a lesser income is not an elitist viewpoint." I can't think of many viewpoints which could more easily be considered elitist. "It is just the truth and how legal damages are determined. When someone is killed through someone else's negligence, the court determines how much is awarded by estimating how much money that person would have earned if he had lived out his full life. So if I am an elitist, our entire court system is as well." That has no real connection to this. It is valuing the time THEY SPEND WORKING differently, as presumably they are DOING DIFFERENT THINGS WITH DIFFERENT VALUES while at work. They are not doing different things when they are commuting. Furthermore, I don't believe your claim about the legal system is entirely correct anyway. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Thu Jul 7 14:45:02 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:28:50 2016. When buses are given preferential treatment by reducing road capacity even when there are few if any buses operating while car traffic is significant and has to be slowed because of itBuses are carrying about 1/3 of the load. Bus passengers deserve a corresponding share of the space. As I said previously, if the automobile can't efficiently carry 67% of the people using 75% of the available road space, that is an indictment of the automobile as a mode, not of buses or bus lanes or bus passengers or anything transit-related. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:46:28 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:26:01 2016. "Yes, but the prudent thing to do now rather than proceeding blindly is to determine why car travel has been slowed by 38 percent on that small segment in one direction during the peak hour BEFORE IMP,EMENTING THE REST OF THE PLAN which could further slow down travel."And you assume they aren't doing that. "Interesting how you now refer to it as only "ONE PEAK HOUR" when before you were claiming that data for only ONE PEAK HOUR was all that was required since volumes are lighter at all other times." Typical inconsistencies by you." There are no inconsistencies. One peak hour certainly could be enough information. You were claiming that it could not be, now you are using it as fact that it is. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:48:13 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:12:01 2016. Stopping short sometimes can't be avoided when something unexpected happens like another car cutting you off or a child darting out from between parked cars.If you aren't aware of that, then you have very little driving experience yet you feel qualified enough to make all sorts of ridiculous statements as far as cars are concerned. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:49:22 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:13:48 2016. Again just baseless accusations again. You disproved them perhaps in your own mind by changing what I stated or inaccurately reinterpreting it. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Thu Jul 7 14:50:18 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:48:13 2016. Stopping short sometimes can't be avoided when something unexpected happens like another car cutting you off or a child darting out from between parked cars.Damn kids need to get their act together. And while I'm on the subject, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!! |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:50:31 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:14:18 2016. What is easy to claim?What is hard to prove? What is impossible to believe? |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:50:39 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:48:13 2016. You should not be driving close enough to another car that them cutting you off should force you to stop short.You should not be driving fast while close to cars that you could not stop without stopping short if someone were to appear from between them. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:51:18 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:49:22 2016. I have disproved them in rational peoples minds. You are not a rational person. |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:51:31 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:14:45 2016. Yes you and your two friends. Hardly means "many." |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:52:10 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:50:31 2016. "You might be interested that last year in one of my meetings with the MTA, a supervisor of bus dispatchers asked me the same question."Apologies for being unclear. It is VERY EASY to believe nobody offered you a position. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:55:27 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:51:31 2016. Plenty more than that. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:07:17 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:43:22 2016. You are speaking UTTER NONSENSE.How does banning 26 left turns causing thousands of driver a day to put on extra mileage and increasing their trip times "VALUE THE TIME OF CAR AND TRUCK DRIVERS? DOT even realized the stupidity of their own plan AFTER THEY DECIDED TO COLLECT SOME DATA, and then RESCINDED 20 of those left turn restrictions. Proving you plan benefits more than it harms IS THE ESSENCE OF GOOD PLANNING. DOT certainly has that obligation to do that. Which Planning School did you graduate from? Mine was Columbia. Is your response going to be that a degree from over 40 years ago is worthless today? If the buses are operating slower today because of the illegal operation of cars, IT IS STILL THE FAULT OF THE PROJECT, because PROPER ENFORCEMENT IS A KEY ELEMENT. I assume that passenger trip time will not decrease by 30 percent EVEN IF BUSES WILL TRAVEL 30 PERCENT QUICKER, because the two are totally different metrics and are like comparing apples and oranges. All you can say is they are both fruit but the similarities end there. And what you state about pedestrians and cyclists is untrue. Not everyone is able to use a bicycle and not everyone finds being a pedestrian easy. Some need cars. And I wasn't talking about favoring cars as you allege, I WAS TALKING ABOUT TREATING EVERYONE EQUAL. You are the one talking about DISCRIMINATING against anyone who has little choice but to drive. Someone who has a choice of a 20 minute auto trip vs a two hour bus trip or a one hour tiring cycling trip is DOING NOTHING WRONG by driving. HE IS NOT A DETRIMENT TO SOCIETY as you contend. Your last paragraph is totally incomprehensible so I can't respond. But if you doubt that the legal system awards damages according to someone's potential income if they are killed through negligence, go ask a lawyer. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:14:28 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:22:26 2016. Me:"When someone replies that I was doing my job properly for one day out of 25 years by saving $4 million on that day, it is clear that the inference is I should be saving $4 million every day." You: "That is not only not clear, it is simply not true. (And I was being rather generous to you. Even on that day, I suspect someone else would have been a better fit for your position.)" IT COULDN'T BE ANY CLEARER WHAT I STATED AND IT CERTAINLY IS TRUE. And how were you being generous to me by stating I was doing my job for one day out of 25 years where you claimed I accomplished nothing at all? And now you are saying that someone else could have saved more than $4 million by discovering a $4 million error. How much could he have saved? Six million, maybe eight million? Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound? Now let's have some more backtracking and denials. I am waiting. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:21:11 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:24:38 2016. RIPTA stated the following:"No, but everyone has access to one of his last columns which is disclaimed by the editor as "significantly changed due to factual errors."" I responded that nothing was disclaimed by the editor. What I meant by that was that the editor WAS NOT MAKING THE CORRECTIONS BECAUSE HE FOUND THE ERRORS which was the implication in RIPTA's statement. As I stated, the editor was merely apologizing for the errors occurring and I did the responsible thing as a journalist to have them corrected. I even instructed the editor to use strikeout rather than just reprint a corrected article, IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY. I could easily have just made the corrections and ask that a corrected article appear. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:23:58 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 13:43:46 2016. No. I made a well written, well articulated, point. You don't do that. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:24:45 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 14:46:28 2016. Yes I assume they may not be doing that because I see so much sloppiness in DOT's work.You say you aren't being inconsistent. So if you say that one peak hour could be enough information, why did you list "one peak hour" as if it were a deficiency implying traffic would have to have been delayed by 38 percent for more than one peak hour for it to be significant? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:24:47 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 13:43:05 2016. Wrong. Almost all of my comments are intelligent. You just don't agree with them, even the factual ones. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:25:58 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Thu Jul 7 14:45:02 2016. And where do you get your numbers that buses are carrying one third of the load?I computed it to be more like 20 percent. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:26:36 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:49:22 2016. No, it's true. He really did. He disapproved them. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:28:28 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 13:56:27 2016. I would guess it's the latter, that no one offered you a position. Because based on your posting, you'd make for a terrible transportation planner. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:29:33 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 13:59:41 2016. He does no such thing. You can't even show three examples of such. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:30:16 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 13:57:29 2016. Wrong. It's speculation but it's informed and not nonsense. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 15:31:54 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:24:45 2016. If we have ONE PEAK HOUR of ridership data, it is not dishonest discuss plans based on the ONE PEAK HOUR of ridership data we have.If we have 6 hours of traffic data, it IS dishonest to discuss plans based on ONLY THE WORST of those 6 hours of traffic data, disregarding the other 5, ESPECIALLY when 4 of the 6 show no change or an improvement. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:32:43 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:10:01 2016. You said you wrote the retraction. He showed that you didn't. And now you agree. So to just agreed with him that you were wrong. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:34:29 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:21:11 2016. No, that's not what RIPTA's post meant. You misunderstood. AGAIN. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:38:30 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:21:22 2016. Wrong. The Court system has nothing to do with this. Each human's time is valued equally in TRANSPORTATION PLANNING!!! |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 15:40:52 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:07:17 2016. "How does banning 26 left turns causing thousands of driver a day to put on extra mileage and increasing their trip times "VALUE THE TIME OF CAR AND TRUCK DRIVERS?"Because left turns cause significant amounts of traffic. That you still don't understand this fact is absolutely unbelievable. "DOT even realized the stupidity of their own plan AFTER THEY DECIDED TO COLLECT SOME DATA, and then RESCINDED 20 of those left turn restrictions." Rescinding them does not mean they do not see the value in the elimination of them. It means that they do not have the political will/power to go through with them. "Proving you plan benefits more than it harms IS THE ESSENCE OF GOOD PLANNING. DOT certainly has that obligation to do that." DOT has no obligation to provide you with the specific numbers you wish. "Which Planning School did you graduate from? Mine was Columbia. Is your response going to be that a degree from over 40 years ago is worthless today?" I'd need to see an actual diploma with a transcript to possibly believe you graduated with any degree in planning. It clearly is worthless considering the ridiculous things you spout. "If the buses are operating slower today because of the illegal operation of cars, IT IS STILL THE FAULT OF THE PROJECT, because PROPER ENFORCEMENT IS A KEY ELEMENT." No. It is the fault of blowhards like yourself, trying to prevent the project from coming to completion. "I assume that passenger trip time will not decrease by 30 percent EVEN IF BUSES WILL TRAVEL 30 PERCENT QUICKER, because the two are totally different metrics and are like comparing apples and oranges. All you can say is they are both fruit but the similarities end there." A. Travel time is not the only metric. B. They are strongly connected metrics. C. Apples and Oranges do have many similarities. There are many situations in which studying Apples may in fact be of use with regards to Oranges. "And what you state about pedestrians and cyclists is untrue. Not everyone is able to use a bicycle and not everyone finds being a pedestrian easy." EVERYBODY is a pedestrian. "Some need cars." Nobody NEEDS a car. "And I wasn't talking about favoring cars as you allege, I WAS TALKING ABOUT TREATING EVERYONE EQUAL." Just because you SAY you are talking about treating everyone equal does not mean that they things you support actually do that. They clearly do not. "You are the one talking about DISCRIMINATING against anyone who has little choice but to drive." NOBODY has little choice but to drive. "Someone who has a choice of a 20 minute auto trip vs a two hour bus trip or a one hour tiring cycling trip is DOING NOTHING WRONG by driving. HE IS NOT A DETRIMENT TO SOCIETY as you contend." Actually, their transportation certainly is. "Your last paragraph is totally incomprehensible so I can't respond." I take no responsibility for your functional illiteracy. "But if you doubt that the legal system awards damages according to someone's potential income if they are killed through negligence, go ask a lawyer." That is not entirely true, nor is it relevant. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:41:57 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:26:01 2016. He's not being inconsistent at all. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 15:44:02 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:14:28 2016. "IT COULDN'T BE ANY CLEARER WHAT I STATED AND IT CERTAINLY IS TRUE."Repeatedly saying this does not make it true. THE SKY IS RED THE SKY IS RED THE SKY IS RED I go outside and look up. Sure enough, the sky is blue. "And how were you being generous to me by stating I was doing my job for one day out of 25 years where you claimed I accomplished nothing at all?" Because I don't actually believe you did catch the $4 million error. "And now you are saying that someone else could have saved more than $4 million by discovering a $4 million error. How much could he have saved? Six million, maybe eight million?" See above. "Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound?" Most ironic rhetorical question of the epoch. "Now let's have some more backtracking and denials. I am waiting." No backtracking. No changes in my statements. Wait as long as you wish! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:44:23 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:25:58 2016. As we've been telling you, generally your numbers are wrong. Did anyone find objection to your 20% figure at the time? |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 15:44:54 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:25:58 2016. Your computations are irrelevant and not based on reality. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 15:45:17 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:44:23 2016. Yes. I did for one, and I am sure others have as well. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:58:44 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 14:29:56 2016. Wrong. I presented my reasoning. I was 100% correct and Nostalgia was 100% wrong, as he has been all along, ever since the first time I corrected him and he grew an attitude. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 16:18:35 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 15:45:17 2016. Sounds about right. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Thu Jul 7 17:10:50 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jul 4 10:13:32 2016. "Neither of you can deal with independent thinkers."Independent thinkers? Your one to talk. I haven't seen anything you post be more then an extension of someone else's thoughts. Let me give you a hint, think pots and kettles. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by fdtutf on Thu Jul 7 17:47:50 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:25:58 2016. Even if we were to accept your bogus, pulled-out-of-your-ass numbers as correct, my point actually stands: If automobiles as a mode are so fragile that, if asked to carry 80% of the people in 75% of the space, automobile traffic significantly breaks down, that's an indictment of the automobile as a mode.The automobile is a terribly inefficient mode that wastes giant quantities of space, and your own arguments prove it. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 19:05:10 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by Cornell Park on Thu Jul 7 17:10:50 2016. Good post. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 19:48:33 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:58:44 2016. The comment was directed at R30A not you. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 19:55:51 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 15:31:54 2016. There is no such thing as only having one peak hour of data. DOT is obligated to gather any data that I necessary and one peak hour is not sufficient for planing for all 24 hours.And there is nothing dishonest about discussing plans based on the peak hour in the peak direction because that is the most important hour as far as speeds are concerned because the most number of cars are affected. It is far less important if speeds are slightly increased in the reverse peak direction which affects much fewer cars. I just so happened that speeds slowed the most in the peak direction during the Peak hour, and it slowed by a whopping 38 percent. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 19:58:05 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 15:24:47 2016. So should I agree with the non factual ones as well? |
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