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Re: Waiting for proof

Posted by R30A on Thu Jul 7 15:40:52 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 7 15:07:17 2016.

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"How does banning 26 left turns causing thousands of driver a day to put on extra mileage and increasing their trip times "VALUE THE TIME OF CAR AND TRUCK DRIVERS?"
Because left turns cause significant amounts of traffic. That you still don't understand this fact is absolutely unbelievable.

"DOT even realized the stupidity of their own plan AFTER THEY DECIDED TO COLLECT SOME DATA, and then RESCINDED 20 of those left turn restrictions."
Rescinding them does not mean they do not see the value in the elimination of them. It means that they do not have the political will/power to go through with them.

"Proving you plan benefits more than it harms IS THE ESSENCE OF GOOD PLANNING. DOT certainly has that obligation to do that."
DOT has no obligation to provide you with the specific numbers you wish.

"Which Planning School did you graduate from? Mine was Columbia. Is your response going to be that a degree from over 40 years ago is worthless today?"
I'd need to see an actual diploma with a transcript to possibly believe you graduated with any degree in planning. It clearly is worthless considering the ridiculous things you spout.

"If the buses are operating slower today because of the illegal operation of cars, IT IS STILL THE FAULT OF THE PROJECT, because PROPER ENFORCEMENT IS A KEY ELEMENT."
No. It is the fault of blowhards like yourself, trying to prevent the project from coming to completion.

"I assume that passenger trip time will not decrease by 30 percent EVEN IF BUSES WILL TRAVEL 30 PERCENT QUICKER, because the two are totally different metrics and are like comparing apples and oranges. All you can say is they are both fruit but the similarities end there."
A. Travel time is not the only metric.
B. They are strongly connected metrics.
C. Apples and Oranges do have many similarities. There are many situations in which studying Apples may in fact be of use with regards to Oranges.

"And what you state about pedestrians and cyclists is untrue. Not everyone is able to use a bicycle and not everyone finds being a pedestrian easy."
EVERYBODY is a pedestrian.

"Some need cars."
Nobody NEEDS a car.

"And I wasn't talking about favoring cars as you allege, I WAS TALKING ABOUT TREATING EVERYONE EQUAL."
Just because you SAY you are talking about treating everyone equal does not mean that they things you support actually do that. They clearly do not.

"You are the one talking about DISCRIMINATING against anyone who has little choice but to drive."
NOBODY has little choice but to drive.

"Someone who has a choice of a 20 minute auto trip vs a two hour bus trip or a one hour tiring cycling trip is DOING NOTHING WRONG by driving. HE IS NOT A DETRIMENT TO SOCIETY as you contend."
Actually, their transportation certainly is.

"Your last paragraph is totally incomprehensible so I can't respond."
I take no responsibility for your functional illiteracy.

"But if you doubt that the legal system awards damages according to someone's potential income if they are killed through negligence, go ask a lawyer."
That is not entirely true, nor is it relevant.


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