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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 27 23:29:32 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 27 05:36:52 2016.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 27 23:32:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 27 23:29:32 2016.

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It would have been better if you wrote P3wned.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 27 23:33:51 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 27 23:32:30 2016.

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I meant Pwn3d!!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jun 28 08:20:22 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 27 23:29:32 2016.

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Of course you do. The two of you are almost always wrong. And you don't find it odd that none of the respectable members of this forum after with you on these matters. LOL!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jun 28 08:22:15 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 27 05:36:52 2016.

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Do you have it straight? You wouldn't lie, would you? Especially when you're trying to make a point, right? You only deal with truth, right? LOL! Please keep this up. It's hilarious.

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Cryin' Whinin' Brian WHineberg thinks he has friends

Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 28 09:47:13 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jun 28 08:20:22 2016.

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members of this forum after with you on these matters.

It's AGREE not after.

I don't read many people agreeing with you, respectable or not.

But I found a lot of posters who agree with me.

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Re: Cryin' Whinin' Brian WHineberg thinks he has friends

Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 28 09:51:26 2016, in response to Cryin' Whinin' Brian WHineberg thinks he has friends, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 28 09:47:13 2016.

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I made coding error. While I figure it out, here's the URL
http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1345335

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Re: Cryin' Whinin' Brian WHineberg thinks he has friends

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 28 11:50:24 2016, in response to Re: Cryin' Whinin' Brian WHineberg thinks he has friends, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 28 09:51:26 2016.

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You want your link to look like this.

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Re: Cryin' Whinin' Brian WHineberg thinks he has friends

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 28 12:19:51 2016, in response to Re: Cryin' Whinin' Brian WHineberg thinks he has friends, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 28 11:50:24 2016.

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Do your HTML argument this way: Open with , type your text, end the argument . Hope this helps.

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Re: Cryin' Whinin' Brian WHineberg thinks he has friends

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 28 12:21:19 2016, in response to Re: Cryin' Whinin' Brian WHineberg thinks he has friends, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 28 12:19:51 2016.

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Damn, every time I try to type the code portion of what I'm trying to say, it disappears... 😐

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Re: Cryin' Whinin' Brian WHineberg thinks he has friends

Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 28 12:33:00 2016, in response to Re: Cryin' Whinin' Brian WHineberg thinks he has friends, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 28 12:19:51 2016.

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Thank you for the information instead of writing "Learn how to code," etc. I'll give it a try the next time I want to link something.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 28 17:22:24 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Sun Jun 26 22:56:11 2016.

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So let us summarize:

YOU PREVIOUSLY STATED:

You do make assumptions but "I don't need proof."

"I don't state my allegations as fact."

OH REALLY?

"When I make an allegation there is nothing to prove."

"Yes, I am incredibly jealous. I wish I could have a nice retirement plan after being fully paid for decades to contribute nothing to the organization you work for."

"LOL. I made no assumptions." (So then you are stating the above as a fact or something with high probability.)

You stated that I was paid a lot more than $2,350,000 during my career (including pension) when you take inflation into account.

But the $42 million I saved or helped save over my career does not need to take inflation into account. (JUST ONE OF YOUR MANY INCONSISTENCIES AND CONTRADICTIONS.)

Regarding the $4 million overpayment error by the MTA, I found one day in in 1993, you responded. "You obviously did your job well for a day."

You also stated: "I never changed any position." THAT IS A CHANGE RIGHT THERE!!! You said that I contributed nothing throughout my career. Then you said I did my job well for one day.

"I diminish your accomplishments because they are absurd, and I never lie."

SO THEN YOU ARE CALLING ME A LIAR after you stated that you weren't. Another contradiction by you.

So if that was my job to save $4 million every day, if I would have done my job everyday, it logically follows the MTA would have $25 billion more in their budget, so I asked if you would blame me for the fact that the full Second Avenue subway is not complete.

You responded: "I never made that claim...but considering the delays it has seen, I wouldn't be surprised."

So according to you there is a high probability that the Second Avenue Subway was not complete because of me.

"High turnover was a fact stated by yourself." I never stated such. YOU JUST MISINTERPRETED WHAT I WROTE.

The hundred other people were working concurrently for about a month each over a three month period assembling charges. Some jobs were done concurrently and some had to be done sequentially. (YOU INACCURATELY ASSUMED EVERYTHING WAS DONE SEQUENTIALLY AND THAT MOST OF THE WORK WAS DONE BY OTHERS.)

When they were finished, I assembled the information over the next three years, sometimes having to go back for additional information.

You also stated that the high turnover you inaccurately assumed was due to me being difficult to work with when no one left their job because they couldn't work with me. You stated that was highly likely with ZERO proof. But you also stated "I don't need proof."

So to conclude, not knowing any facts, you went ahead and made at least a half dozen inaccurate assumptions which you stated as fact or with a "high" probability.

You can do that because as you stated:

"When I make an allegation there is nothing to prove."

You can even accuse me of being responsible for the Second Avenue Subway not being completed, but you don't need to show any proof.

I think we can let the readers at Buschat decide who has more credibility, you or me.

I am done with this conversation.













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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 29 00:22:21 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Jun 28 08:20:22 2016.

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L😄L..
And I suppose you consider YOURSELF a member of the "respectable" group?
Nothing wrong with wanting to meet certain requirements...even if the possibility of MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS is clearly out of reach.
Though,we appreciate the efforts.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jun 29 07:58:48 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 28 17:22:24 2016.

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R30A has FAR more credibility than you.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 29 08:42:08 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 29 00:22:21 2016.

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And I suppose you consider YOURSELF a member of the "respectable" group?
Certainly!

Nothing wrong with wanting to meet certain requirements...
Correct! One is "not being a racist." You fail that one. I pass* it with flying colors.

*Of course, everyone is a little bit racist.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 08:45:20 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jun 29 07:58:48 2016.

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And you are the only one who believes that.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 29 08:51:25 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 08:45:20 2016.

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And you are the only one who believes that.
Really? I'll make you a bet. Loser has to leave the forum for a month. You ready to cash the check that your mouth is writing? I didn't think so. You're all talk and no show. You're a scared little child. You have no backbone. You seemingly have no credibility whatsoever except among the ignorant and/or stupid, as is obvious on this forum.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 09:35:05 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 08:45:20 2016.

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He clearly is not.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 09:54:12 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 28 17:22:24 2016.

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"You do make assumptions but "I don't need proof.""
Yes. Assumptions stated as assumptions do not need proof. Assumptions stated as fact do. It is easy to understand for honest people.

"You stated that I was paid a lot more than $2,350,000 during my career (including pension) when you take inflation into account."
Yes.

"But the $42 million I saved or helped save over my career does not need to take inflation into account."
Nothing needs to be taken into account as YOU DID NOT SAVE 42 MILLION, WITH OR WITHOUT INFLATION. It is a laughable claim that even based on what you have said about it is blatantly false.

"(JUST ONE OF YOUR MANY INCONSISTENCIES AND CONTRADICTIONS.)"
There is no contradiction.

"You also stated: "I never changed any position." THAT IS A CHANGE RIGHT THERE!!! You said that I contributed nothing throughout my career. Then you said I did my job well for one day."
Are you really claiming that doing your job for a day of a ~30 year career means you had a productive career?

"SO THEN YOU ARE CALLING ME A LIAR after you stated that you weren't. Another contradiction by you."
Stating that I am not a liar does not mean that someone else IS a liar. Basic reading comprehension is missing here.

"So according to you there is a high probability that the Second Avenue Subway was not complete because of me."
No. I very much did not say that. The MTA is FAR too smart to put someone like yourself in charge of an important project like SAS.


""High turnover was a fact stated by yourself." I never stated such. YOU JUST MISINTERPRETED WHAT I WROTE."
I did not misinterpret anything.

"The hundred other people were working concurrently for about a month each over a three month period assembling charges. Some jobs were done concurrently and some had to be done sequentially. (YOU INACCURATELY ASSUMED EVERYTHING WAS DONE SEQUENTIALLY AND THAT MOST OF THE WORK WAS DONE BY OTHERS.)"
Yes. 100 months of work by others would certainly be more productive than 36 months of one person. This isn't a hard concept to grasp. I made no assumption that everything was done sequentially.

"You also stated that the high turnover you inaccurately assumed was due to me being difficult to work with when no one left their job because they couldn't work with me. You stated that was highly likely with ZERO proof. But you also stated "I don't need proof.""
Yes. Your behavior here has made it clear that you are incredibly hard to work with. Anybody who had a profound lack of understanding of both the topic at hand(transportation), as well as the math needed to analyze such would be incredibly frustrating to work with. Especially a blowhard conspiracy theorist like yourself who appears to constantly think the world is out to get him.


You can do that because as you stated:

"When I make an allegation there is nothing to prove."
What I said was: "When I make no allegation, there is nothing to prove"
Perhaps I should suggest an ESL course for you?

"You can even accuse me of being responsible for the Second Avenue Subway not being completed, but you don't need to show any proof."
I did no such thing.

"I think we can let the readers at Buschat decide who has more credibility, you or me."
It is pretty clear many have. Here, and many other places.

"I am done with this conversation."
You keep on saying that. Your continued replies make me think you realize what "done" means.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Wed Jun 29 10:11:29 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 29 00:22:21 2016.

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Absolutely CORRECT

+1000

His last statement sums up his basic premise perfectly. He is in his OWN universe.

There is a fifth dimension beyond known only to Lyin' Cryin' Brian 'Whinin' WHineberg. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of Lyin' Cryin' Brian "Whinin' WHineberg's knowledge and the summit of the truth he THINKS, he knows. This is the dimension of his fantasy.

It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 29 10:16:10 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 08:45:20 2016.

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And you are the only one who believes that.

Not at all.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 29 10:38:11 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 29 08:42:08 2016.

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In all actuality,a dodge is still a dodge.
You have lived up to your reputation with excellent candor.
Congratulations.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by fdtutf on Wed Jun 29 12:05:48 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 08:45:20 2016.

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Far from it.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 29 13:53:22 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 29 10:38:11 2016.

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In all actuality,a dodge is still a dodge.
You mean like a fiat is still a fiat? What's your point?

You have lived up to your reputation with excellent candor. Congratulations.
Thank you! So are you agreeing with my post or what?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 29 13:53:53 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 09:35:05 2016.

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Thank you.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 29 13:53:58 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 29 10:16:10 2016.

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Thank you.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 29 13:54:09 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Wed Jun 29 12:05:48 2016.

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Thank you.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 14:15:44 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 29 13:53:53 2016.

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No- Thank you! As it is my credibility being discussed in comparison to BB.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jun 29 15:01:43 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 14:15:44 2016.

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:)

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Wed Jun 29 16:37:01 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 29 13:53:22 2016.

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He means what he wrote and wrote what he means. Any intelligent person can figure it out.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jun 29 18:44:59 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Wed Jun 29 16:37:01 2016.

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No he didn't. He didn't write precisely. Not in the least. Why do to think you can use what I say against me? How would that ever work? LOL!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 19:10:54 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jun 29 10:16:10 2016.

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So you also believe that the Second
Avenue subway not being completed is my fault.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jun 29 19:14:52 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 19:10:54 2016.

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LOL! That not what R30A said or meant.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 19:21:53 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 19:10:54 2016.

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You are the only person who could be construed to have made that claim.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 20:40:38 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 29 08:51:25 2016.

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You have defined anyone who agrees with me as ignorant and stupid and everyone who agrees with you as being right.

Gee, that is really rich.

Intelligence is a willingness to listen to others and be willing to change your mind when presented with evidence. But all you are willing to do is what I stated above because you have zero capacity for intelligence.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 20:46:55 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 19:21:53 2016.

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There you go again changing what you stated. (And you said you are always consistent.)

I stated that if it was my job to save $4 million every day, that if I would have done my job everyday, it logically follows the MTA would have $25 billion more in their budget, so I asked if you would blame me for the fact that the full Second Avenue subway is not complete.

You responded: "I never made that claim...but considering the delays it has seen, I wouldn't be surprised."

That can be interpreted as there is a high probability that it is my fault why the Second Avenue subway was not finished.

So what is your position now? That you were only being sarcastic like you backtracked before?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 20:47:49 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Wed Jun 29 12:05:48 2016.

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So far all we have heard from is the usual suspects. Doesn't nearly represent what most readers believe.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 20:59:28 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 09:54:12 2016.

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You claim I did not help save $42 million. SO YOU ARE CALLING ME A LIAR. Although you stated you weren't.

I suppose you want proof. That's rich coming from the person who believes he never has to provide any proof.

And you are the one with the reading comprehension program. I never claimed to be in charge of the Second Avenue Subway or even have anything to do with that project. Yet you stated that I claimed I was in charge.

What I stated was if my job was to save $4 million a day as you clearly stated it was, that means since I wasn't doing my job or contributing in positive way to the MTA as you also stated as fact, then the MTA would have had $45 billion more in their budget and much more of the Second Avenue subway could have been completed if I had been doing my job of saving $4 million a day.

You responded that you wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.

Now if Terrapin, fdtutf and RIPTA 42 believe you have more credibility than me than they must also believe that if I had been properly doing my job, much more of the Second Avemue Subway would be complete.

Now I am done unless you once again change what you stated.


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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 21:17:16 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 20:46:55 2016.

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"I stated that if it was my job to save $4 million every day, that if I would have done my job everyday, it logically follows the MTA would have $25 billion more in their budget, so I asked if you would blame me for the fact that the full Second Avenue subway is not complete."
It does not logically follow that the MTA would have $25 billion more in their budget.

"That can be interpreted as there is a high probability that it is my fault why the Second Avenue subway was not finished. "
No. My statement cannot reasonably be construed to mean that in any way.

"So what is your position now? That you were only being sarcastic like you backtracked before?"
My view is unchanged. The MTA as a whole is FAR too competent to put a fool like yourself in any position of importance, such as one with responsibility for the SAS.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 21:29:45 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 20:59:28 2016.

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"You claim I did not help save $42 million. SO YOU ARE CALLING ME A LIAR. Although you stated you weren't."
I am not calling you a liar. I do believe that you believe you saved that much. Regardless of what you believe, you have made it clear that you did not save $42 million.

"I suppose you want proof."
Yeah, but I know such does not exist, so I can't say I expect to see it.

"That's rich coming from the person who believes he never has to provide any proof."
Actually, I do cite my facts, and state my suppositions as suppositions. That is what makes me honest. You should try it sometime.

"And you are the one with the reading comprehension program. I never claimed to be in charge of the Second Avenue Subway or even have anything to do with that project."
I do not believe there is a single person on this planet who has ever claimed that you were ever in charge of or even had anything to do with SAS. If that is false, my apologies- I can't say for certain that you were not involved, and I accept the possibility that you may have been.

"Yet you stated that I claimed I was in charge."
I have never in my life claimed that you have had anything to do with SAS, let alone being in charge of it. I know that your name isn't Bill Goodrich(Although come to think of it, I think they shifted him to another CC project and someone else is in charge of SAS now...).

"What I stated was if my job was to save $4 million a day as you clearly stated it was, that means since I wasn't doing my job or contributing in positive way to the MTA as you also stated as fact, then the MTA would have had $45 billion more in their budget and much more of the Second Avenue subway could have been completed if I had been doing my job of saving $4 million a day."
That is a logical fallacy with no bearing in reality. What is a part of ones job is by no means the totality of their job.

"You responded that you wouldn't be surprised if that were the case."
You have no understanding of the concept of snark.

"Now if Terrapin, fdtutf and RIPTA 42 believe you have more credibility than me than they must also believe that if I had been properly doing my job, much more of the Second Avemue Subway would be complete."
No. that does not follow that they must believe that. I have had a substantial conversations with each of them, both on line and in person on many topics over the course of the last decade and a half, so while I cannot say for sure, I think I know them well enough to state rather unequivocally: I don't believe any of them think the MTA would have been so incompetent as to have trusted you with the leadership of such an important project.

"Now I am done unless you once again change what you stated. "
Still nothing has changed, and yet again, I doubt you will be able to contain yourself.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 22:07:18 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 21:17:16 2016.

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I meant $45 billion, as I previously stated, not $25 billion. If you do not agree that another $45 billion (which according to you the MTA would have had if I was doing my job properly) it certainly stands to reason that that money could have been used for the Second Avenue subway making it my fault why they didn't have that money.

So to say your statement could not have been construed as such makes no sense at all.

But nothing else that you said made sense either like I never performed a useful day of work in my job at the MTA or I did not help save a total of $42 million or if I didn't find the $4 million error, someone else would have when that clearly was not the case as I proved unquestionably since the time to find the error had long passed.

Or that I must always provide proof while you are never required to provide any proof. We must just have to accept every word if yours as gospel and assume everything I say is incorrect.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 22:22:19 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 21:29:45 2016.

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All you did was make accusations about me without citing any proof whatsoever. You clearly stated a number of times as I quoted, that you are not required to present any proof.

And you would dispute any proof I would provide, so why even bother trying. If you are so interested, you can ask the MTA Chairman. He knows.

I clearly stated that I had nothing whatsoever to do with the Second Avenue Subway. Yet you state that you accept the possibility that I did work on the project. THAT IS SAYING I AM A LIAR.

"What is part of one's job is by no means the totality of their job."

So now you say that saving $4 million a day (which you stated was my job responsibility) was not enough. My responsibilities should have included more. Show me one person at the MTA who even saves $1 million a day. YOUR STATEMENTS ARE JUST UTTERLY RIDICULOUS.

Why do you keep harping on that the MTA never would have trusted me to run the Second Avenue Subway? That is a totally irrelevent point. I never said they would have or I would have accepted if it were offered which would not have occurred anyway.

Terrapin, fdtutf and RIPTA 42 believing that I am not competent to hold that position does not mean they believe you are more credible than I am since I never stated I was competent to hold that position.

But if they believe you more than they believe me, they must agree with you that my job was to at least save $4 million a day in addition to other responsibilities which you clearly stated. Are you now going to deny you said that?



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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jun 29 23:17:09 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 20:40:38 2016.

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No I haven't.

No, that's not intelligence. Intelligence is being able to smell the bullshit you're peddling.

Anyhow, I knew you would stand behind your ridiculous statement. You don't even Berliner in yourself. How do you expect anyone intelligent to believe in you?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 23:17:48 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 22:22:19 2016.

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"All you did was make accusations about me without citing any proof whatsoever."
The only accusation I have is that you are hopelessly incompetent. Your posts here are ample proof of that.

"You clearly stated a number of times as I quoted, that you are not required to present any proof."
If I am not making a claim, there is nothing to prove, so not only am I not required to present any proof, but it is impossible to do so.

"And you would dispute any proof I would provide, so why even bother trying."
Of course! Things that you say are rarely true, and rarely relevant to the point being made, so why would I accept it as proof.

"If you are so interested, you can ask the MTA Chairman. He knows."
Really? That one I certainly would need proof in writing to believe. And not some form letter you have framed on your wall somewhere.

"I clearly stated that I had nothing whatsoever to do with the Second Avenue Subway."
I fully believe you.

"Yet you state that you accept the possibility that I did work on the project."
I see no purpose to reject the possibility of something I admittedly know nothing about.

"THAT IS SAYING I AM A LIAR."
How could that possibly be calling you a liar?
A. I don't claim that anything you said with regards to SAS is false.
B. I do not believe you have a full understanding of your involvement with projects, so even if you make a false statement, that would not make you a liar.

"What is part of one's job is by no means the totality of their job."
"So now you say that saving $4 million a day (which you stated was my job responsibility) was not enough."
I have never stated that saving $4 million a day was your job responsibility.

"My responsibilities should have included more."
No. I don't think they should have trusted you with any responsibilities at all.

"Show me one person at the MTA who even saves $1 million a day."
I doubt there is such a person. Nobody has made the claim that there is.

"YOUR STATEMENTS ARE JUST UTTERLY RIDICULOUS."
Another ironic statement worthy of the history books.

"Why do you keep harping on that the MTA never would have trusted me to run the Second Avenue Subway?"
Because you somehow seem to think that I would believe you are in charge of SAS. Let me be blunt. I do not, nor have ever believe, nor have ever stated in any way that you were in charge of the SAS project.

"That is a totally irrelevent point."
Yes, but you keep on bringing it up!

"I never said they would have or I would have accepted if it were offered which would not have occurred anyway."
Nice shermanism.

"Terrapin, fdtutf and RIPTA 42 believing that I am not competent to hold that position does not mean they believe you are more credible than I am since I never stated I was competent to hold that position."
Correct. It is the fact that they said they think I am more credible that makes me think that they think I am more credible.

"But if they believe you more than they believe me, they must agree with you that my job was to at least save $4 million a day in addition to other responsibilities which you clearly stated. Are you now going to deny you said that?"
I have no reason to believe that any of the four people listed (including myself) have ever believed or stated that your job was ever to save the MTA $4 million dollars a day.



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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jun 29 23:19:34 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 20:47:49 2016.

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Doesn't matter. You said I was the only one and that's not true. So you were and are wrong. Man up and admit it.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jun 29 23:21:52 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 21:29:45 2016.

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Good post.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jun 29 23:24:34 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 23:17:48 2016.

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Another good post.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by R30A on Wed Jun 29 23:26:59 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 29 22:07:18 2016.

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"I meant $45 billion, as I previously stated, not $25 billion. If you do not agree that another $45 billion (which according to you the MTA would have had if I was doing my job properly) it certainly stands to reason that that money could have been used for the Second Avenue subway making it my fault why they didn't have that money.

So to say your statement could not have been construed as such makes no sense at all."
I have never claimed that you should have saved $45 billion, so none of this has anything to do with anything at all.


"But nothing else that you said made sense either like I never performed a useful day of work in my job at the MTA or I did not help save a total of $42 million or if I didn't find the $4 million error, someone else would have when that clearly was not the case as I proved unquestionably since the time to find the error had long passed."
I've helped save the MTA a total of roughly 50 million a year, as I have occasionally lost metrocards with value on them which has since expired. I mean, that is only Go me!
And still NOTHING AT ALL demonstrating that you actually were involved in such projects has been proven. (That said, I am not denying that you were- just that you have provided any proof whatsoever.)

"Or that I must always provide proof while you are never required to provide any proof."
No. You need to provide proof because you constantly make outlandish claims which are frequently contradicted by all available data.

"We must just have to accept every word if yours as gospel and assume everything I say is incorrect."
No. I actually DO often provide proof when I make claims, and if I am making a statement for which I am not certain of its veracity, I make such clear.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 30 02:25:11 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 29 13:53:22 2016.

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Absolutely.
I agree 100 percent,that you are an asshole FIRST Class,with square. diminsions fitting a cardboard box...a little one.

Ass-hole...

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 30 02:38:16 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Jun 29 18:44:59 2016.

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I " wrote" exacty what I said..clear and concise..whereas you perfectly understood IT'S CONTENT.
Not only are you an ASSHOLE who sucks,donkey ass..but you make it easy to identify YOU!
And please...paraphrase ×

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