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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 20 13:35:22 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 20 13:12:26 2016. What a double standard?Everything I allege requires proof. BUT WHAT YOU SAY REQUIRES NO PROOF. And DOT has zero obligation to the public. Just great!! LOL. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 20 13:48:35 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 20 13:35:22 2016. "What a double standard?"Not a double standard "Everything I allege requires proof." Yes. "BUT WHAT YOU SAY REQUIRES NO PROOF." When I make no allegation, there is nothing to prove. "And DOT has zero obligation to the public." I never stated such. "Just great!! LOL." Yes, it is! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jun 23 13:48:09 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 20 13:48:35 2016. Certainly is a double standard. You can allege anything you want and you even stated "there is nothing to prove" when you say something.But you respond to anything I say, with where is your proof? And you certainly did say DOT does not have the obligation to provide data for the entire bus lane and does not have to provide a reason why they didn't. Then you went ahead and made the assumption that there could have been too much turnover which was why they did not present the data. When I stated that DOT could have said that if it were true, you responded that they had no obligation to say that . Now you deny you said they had no obligation to explain. So you are just talking out of both sides of your mouth again making it impossible to win any argument with you. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jun 23 14:08:34 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jun 23 13:48:09 2016. "Certainly is a double standard. You can allege anything you want and you even stated "there is nothing to prove" when you say something."I made no allegations. "But you respond to anything I say, with where is your proof?" Yes, to be taken seriously, when you make an allegation, you need to back it up with facts. "And you certainly did say DOT does not have the obligation to provide data for the entire bus lane and does not have to provide a reason why they didn't." DOT has no specific data obligations. "Then you went ahead and made the assumption that there could have been too much turnover which was why they did not present the data." I made no assumption. "When I stated that DOT could have said that if it were true, you responded that they had no obligation to say that ." Correct. They have no such obligation. "Now you deny you said they had no obligation to explain." I never denied such. They have no obligation to explain such. "So you are just talking out of both sides of your mouth again making it impossible to win any argument with you." My stance is consistent throughout. You just can't accept the fact that DOT actually understands the transit and traffic situations of Woodhaven and Sheepshead bay (and everywhere else in the city) substantially better than you do. Mind you, your average squirrel has a better understanding than you do. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jun 23 18:20:50 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu Jun 23 14:08:34 2016. "I made no allegations."You alleged that DOT did not present data for the entire bus lane because there was too much turnover, so don't say you made no allegations. You stated that was the probable reason. You also stated DOT has no obligation to say for sure if that was the case. Then when I accused you of stating that DOT zero obligation to support their conclusions, you denied it saying you never said they have zero obligation. But then you stated that they have no obligation to explain themselves. So as long as you continue to take every position possible, you are always right. There are many in this city who has serious doubts regarding DOT's capabilities. I have pointed numerous mistakes and flaws in their reports. Yet you have extreme confidence in them. Okay for you, but don't allege that that is the majority opinion in thus city. I know personally of at least 25 individuals who have no confidence in DOR's abilities. Of course you can easily dismiss them all as quacks, which I am sure you will do. At least they know the correct spelling of the word " Glossary," which DOT does not. Go ahead and say a squirrel knows more than I do about transit and traffic, because up you have no real arguments. A squirrel didn't change ten bus routes for the better. I did. You are just plain jealous. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jun 23 20:36:35 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jun 23 18:20:50 2016. "You alleged that DOT did not present data for the entire bus lane because there was too much turnover, so don't say you made no allegations."I made no such allegation "You stated that was the probable reason." I did not. "You also stated DOT has no obligation to say for sure if that was the case." That is correct, they have no such obligation "Then when I accused you of stating that DOT zero obligation to support their conclusions, you denied it saying you never said they have zero obligation." Correct, I never said they have no obligation to support their conclusions. They fulfilled it anyway, so it is irrelevant. "But then you stated that they have no obligation to explain themselves." Correct. "So as long as you continue to take every position possible, you are always right." I have taken no contradictory positions, however I am clearly right. "There are many in this city who has serious doubts regarding DOT's capabilities." Yes. Many people wear tinfoil hats and believe in FEMA camps and that the CIA killed Kennedy. Many people think vaccines cause autism. Many people are going to vote for Donald Trump. Many people think Fluoride in drinking water is a communist conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids. "I have pointed numerous mistakes and flaws in their reports. Yet you have extreme confidence in them." You have not once pointed out a significant mistake or flaw. "Okay for you, but don't allege that that is the majority opinion in thus city." Opinions are not particularly important here. "I know personally of at least 25 individuals who have no confidence in DOR's abilities." WOW! 25 PEOPLE!!! AMAZING!!!! "Of course you can easily dismiss them all as quacks, which I am sure you will do." Considering you correspond with such people, such is not exactly a hard leap to make. "At least they know the correct spelling of the word " Glossary," which DOT does not." Yeah, you really got the DOT on that one! I wonder if they know how to spell "this"... "Go ahead and say a squirrel knows more than I do about transit and traffic, because up you have no real arguments. A squirrel didn't change ten bus routes for the better." Exactly my point. Unlike you, squirrels did not have a substantial detrimental effect on the transportation systems of this city. "I did." So you say... however you take credit for the miserable old routing of the B36, so your judgement is obviously compromised. "You are just plain jealous." Yes, I am incredibly jealous. I wish I could have a nice retirement plan after being fully paid for decades to contribute nothing to the organization I work for. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jun 23 22:54:44 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu Jun 23 20:36:35 2016. As long as you are going to keep changing your position and lie about what you said or did not say, I am not going to waste any more time with you.I will only address your last comment about being fully paid for decades and contributing nothing to the organization. That comment alone takes away any credibility you might have had because you ARE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. As long as you are going to keep changing your position and lie about what you said or did not say, I am not going to waste any more time with you. I will only address your last comment about being fully paid for decades and contributing nothing to the organization. That comment alone takes away any credibility you might have had because you ARE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. You have no idea what I did during the 25 years I worked at the MTA so let me tell you about just three things. One, as part of the employee suggestion program, I recommended the MTA extend the B83 to Gateway via the Belt Parkway. They turned down the suggestion as they did most of my other suggestions. It turned out they weren't aware they were allowed to operate buses on the Belt Parkway until I TOLD THEM THEY COULD WITH A DOT PERMIT. So they then spent FIVE years studying the validity of that short extension before implementing it. Then they started using the Belt also for run on and run off routes saving them money. Compare five years it took them to make such a short extension with the four years it took me to get them to make ten major changes to bus routes working from an outside agency which is much more difficult. You admit to being incredibly jealous of me because you believe the MTA didn't get their money's worth so let's see if you are right. My salary with them started at $28,000 per year. I retired at 80,000 per year. So let's assume an average salary of $54,000. So they spent $1,350,000 on me. Let's add another million for pension for a total of $2,350,000. Well in a single day while at a Car Equipment, I found an error payment schedule in the payments for the R 44 overhaul which the accounting people overlooked. IT WAS A FOUR MILLION DOLLAR ERROR, that the contractor was forced to repay. So I single handedly saved the MTA $4 million. All I got was a thank you and there was no retribution to the person who made the error in writing the contract which the lawyers also overlooked. That doesn't include the $8 million the MTA received for the Blizzard of '96 from the insurance companies due to the spreadsheets I put together which took three years to complete. (30 volumes of documentation for all the MTA agencies) , but I can't take full credit for that because 20 others were also involved, but I was the lead person. Then there is the $30 million I helped recover for 911 which I also worked on for a year and about 100 helped gather that data for the 10,000 pages of required documentation. I was the lead person for that also. So let us summarize. Just for those three items which took about four of the 25 years, I saved the MTA $42 million and it cost them $2.3 million. I would say they got their money's worth. You have every reason to be jealous because I am very proud of all my accomplishments. Your only possible response is to ask for proof and call me a liar. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jun 23 23:20:26 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jun 23 22:54:44 2016. "As long as you are going to keep changing your position and lie about what you said or did not say, I am not going to waste any more time with you."As I never changed any position, I see that you are still wasting time responding to me. "I will only address your last comment about being fully paid for decades and contributing nothing to the organization." You made the assumption that I was jealous. I really am not. My comment was sarcastic. I would be miserable if I was such a drain of resources that you are. I actually take pride in making things work. "That comment alone takes away any credibility you might have had because you ARE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT." LOL. I made no assumptions. "As long as you are going to keep changing your position and lie about what you said or did not say, I am not going to waste any more time with you. I will only address your last comment about being fully paid for decades and contributing nothing to the organization. That comment alone takes away any credibility you might have had because you ARE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT." You didn't have to repeat all that. "You have no idea what I did during the 25 years I worked at the MTA so let me tell you about just three things. One, as part of the employee suggestion program, I recommended the MTA extend the B83 to Gateway via the Belt Parkway. They turned down the suggestion as they did most of my other suggestions." Your suggestions clearly tend to fall between terrible and impossible, so it makes a lot of sense that few would be followed. "It turned out they weren't aware they were allowed to operate buses on the Belt Parkway until I TOLD THEM THEY COULD WITH A DOT PERMIT. So they then spent FIVE years studying the validity of that short extension before implementing it. Then they started using the Belt also for run on and run off routes saving them money." I trust their judgement over your opinion of their judgement. I doubt it actually came about as you said it. "Compare five years it took them to make such a short extension with the four years it took me to get them to make ten major changes to bus routes working from an outside agency which is much more difficult." Err... What is this even supposed to mean? "You admit to being incredibly jealous of me because you believe the MTA didn't get their money's worth so let's see if you are right." The statement was obviously snark. That said, they obviously did not get their money's worth. "My salary with them started at $28,000 per year. I retired at 80,000 per year. So let's assume an average salary of $54,000. So they spent $1,350,000 on me. Let's add another million for pension for a total of $2,350,000." OK. (but you aren't taking inflation into account, so it really is a lot more.) "Well in a single day while at a Car Equipment, I found an error payment schedule in the payments for the R 44 overhaul which the accounting people overlooked. IT WAS A FOUR MILLION DOLLAR ERROR, that the contractor was forced to repay." Wow! You actually did your job well for a day! Kudos! "So I single handedly saved the MTA $4 million." No. That assumes someone else wouldn't have caught it, assuming it happened the way you said. "All I got was a thank you and there was no retribution to the person who made the error in writing the contract which the lawyers also overlooked." Yes, that is how things work in the real world. Sorry they didn't suck your toes, or whatever else you wanted them to do to thank you. "That doesn't include the $8 million the MTA received for the Blizzard of '96 from the insurance companies due to the spreadsheets I put together which took three years to complete. (30 volumes of documentation for all the MTA agencies) , but I can't take full credit for that because 20 others were also involved, but I was the lead person. Then there is the $30 million I helped recover for 911 which I also worked on for a year and about 100 helped gather that data for the 10,000 pages of required documentation. I was the lead person for that also." These are called... wait for it... actually doing your job!!! (and you consider that as your 38 million contribution when you admit the work was largely done by other people!!!) "So let us summarize. Just for those three items which took about four of the 25 years, I saved the MTA $42 million and it cost them $2.3 million. I would say they got their money's worth." I wonder how much would have been saved had a competent person been doing this. YOU didn't save the money. You contributed to the work which had to be done which ended up saving the money. Had you not been there, someone else would have done it, and likely done it better. " You have every reason to be jealous because I am very proud of all my accomplishments." LOL. "Your only possible response is to ask for proof and call me a liar." I don't think you are lying about your past. I think you have delusions of grandeur related to your past, but as your misrepresentations are not intentional, they are not lies. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 23 23:30:57 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu Jun 23 23:20:26 2016. Good post. Would read from again. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 23 23:31:15 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu Jun 23 20:36:35 2016. Great post. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 24 11:24:51 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Thu Jun 23 23:20:26 2016. Okay let's analyze your post.You previously stated that you are consistent and do not change your mind and do not make assumptions. You also stated that you are incredibly jealous because I accomplished nothing during my 25 years at the MTA and received a great salary and pension. The only people who would be jealous are those with a poor salary and pension. THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN YOU STATEMENT TO INDICATE SARCASM. So when I called you out on it and PROVED how a $2.3 million investment by the MTA netting them $42 million, your response was that I did not account for inflation and they obviously did not get their money's worth. SO HOW DO YOU CONCLUDE THAT? Well inflation works both ways. The $4 million I saved was in 1993. So how much would you say that was worth today in 2016 as I am continuing to get my pension? Then you state if I didn't catch the error, someone else would have caught it. ANOTHER ASSUMPTION ON YOUR PART FOR SOMEONE WHO NEVER MAKES ASSUMPTIONS. The fact is that the time to catch the error was between the time when the contract was written in the late 80's and before the contractor was paid in 1992. I discovered the error on contract closeout about six months after the contractor was paid, long after Capital Accounting approved the payment. IT WAS THEIR JOB TO CATCH THE ERROR NOT MINE, and they failed to do that. Then you have the gall to suggest that my job was to save the MTA $4 million for every day I worked there. So I guess according to you it was all MY FAULT that the Second Avenue subway was not built because I wasn't doing my job of saving the MTA $4 million everyday because the MTA would have had $25 billion more in their budget if I were doing my job correctly. LOL. You don't think I deserved a bonus or promotion for doing something beyond my job description and saving $4 million. Most promotions are based on who you know, not what you did. That is only one of the things wrong with the MTA. And of course you diminish my accomplishment for helping to recoup $30 million by saying I was only doing my job and the fact that 100 others were involved. I guess you never heard of team work. The entire team deserves credit. But I did the most work not the 100 others, so you are WRONG once again. They each worked about a month, while I spent three years on that project exclusively, Then you have the nerve to assume that a "competent" person would have saved more in less time. AGAIN YOU ARE MAKING FALSE ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON ZERO FACTS. But you NEVER make assumptions, and you NEVER need facts. WHAT A JOKE YOU ARE!!!!!' Then you can't understand a simple sentence which I shouldn't have to explain. I made major changes to ten bus routes working from an outside agency. Those changes should have taken two years to accomplish. Instead it took four years due to constant roadblocks thrown at us by the MTA, so it took four years, twice as long as it should have taken. By contrast, ONE MINOR bus route change WHICH I SUGGESTED, took the MTA FIVE YEARS to study and implement and they implemented that change internally, only having to deal with DOT. (We at City Planning had to deal with both DOT and the MTA.) Do you understand that simple concept now that I have taken the time to break it down for you into bite size pieces? You also made the assumption that all my ideas fall between terrible and impossible WITHOUT ANY PROOF when you have no idea WHAT ALL MY SUGGESTIONS WERE. Again, that is a statement from someone who supposedly never makes assumptions. You keep changing your position, constantly make false assumptions, diminish other people's accomplishments because of your own jealousy, make assertions with zero proof, make incorrect statements, and then lie about all that. And Terrapin is the only one supporting you, Most everyone else here will agree with me regarding this post. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Jun 24 12:38:10 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 24 11:24:51 2016. "Okay let's analyze your post."Ok! "You previously stated that you are consistent and do not change your mind and do not make assumptions." I have made the first of those three claims. I pride myself on not making the second of the claims that you state I make. I also do not make the third claim. 1 for 3. "You also stated that you are incredibly jealous because I accomplished nothing during my 25 years at the MTA and received a great salary and pension. The only people who would be jealous are those with a poor salary and pension. THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN YOU STATEMENT TO INDICATE SARCASM." Just because you are incapable of understanding other people does not change their intent. "So when I called you out on it and PROVED how a $2.3 million investment by the MTA netting them $42 million, your response was that I did not account for inflation and they obviously did not get their money's worth. SO HOW DO YOU CONCLUDE THAT?" That is an improper summary of my claim. I was certainly right about the inflation. That said, the bigger error of your claim is that you clearly did not net the MTA $42 million, even if one were to take you at your word, which is obviously an incredibly foolish thing to do. "Well inflation works both ways. The $4 million I saved was in 1993. So how much would you say that was worth today in 2016 as I am continuing to get my pension? Then you state if I didn't catch the error, someone else would have caught it. ANOTHER ASSUMPTION ON YOUR PART FOR SOMEONE WHO NEVER MAKES ASSUMPTIONS." Yes, I assume that people do their job. I identify that such is an assumption. I never said I do not make assumptions. Unlike you, I do not assert my assumptions as fact. "The fact is that the time to catch the error was between the time when the contract was written in the late 80's and before the contractor was paid in 1992. I discovered the error on contract closeout about six months after the contractor was paid, long after Capital Accounting approved the payment. IT WAS THEIR JOB TO CATCH THE ERROR NOT MINE, and they failed to do that." That is what you claim. Considering your track record, It is unlikely. "Then you have the gall to suggest that my job was to save the MTA $4 million for every day I worked there. So I guess according to you it was all MY FAULT that the Second Avenue subway was not built because I wasn't doing my job of saving the MTA $4 million everyday because the MTA would have had $25 billion more in their budget if I were doing my job correctly. LOL." I never made any claim that you have responsibility for the second avenue subway. However considering the number of delays it has seen, I would be unsurprised. "You don't think I deserved a bonus or promotion for doing something beyond my job description and saving $4 million. Most promotions are based on who you know, not what you did. That is only one of the things wrong with the MTA." Yes, your endless vendetta against your former employer is clear. "And of course you diminish my accomplishment for helping to recoup $30 million by saying I was only doing my job and the fact that 100 others were involved. I guess you never heard of team work. The entire team deserves credit. But I did the most work not the 100 others, so you are WRONG once again. They each worked about a month, while I spent three years on that project exclusively," And if you didn't, someone else would have. That is called doing your job. And if turnover of others was so fast that 100 people ended up doing less than one person did, I would highly suspect that there was a problem with the one person being incredibly difficult to work with. "Then you have the nerve to assume that a "competent" person would have saved more in less time. AGAIN YOU ARE MAKING FALSE ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON ZERO FACTS. But you NEVER make assumptions, and you NEVER need facts. WHAT A JOKE YOU ARE!!!!!'" It is an assumption. I identified it as an assumption. I have never stated that I never make assumptions. You have made the claim that I don't, which is yet another example of you making false claims. "Then you can't understand a simple sentence which I shouldn't have to explain. I made major changes to ten bus routes working from an outside agency. Those changes should have taken two years to accomplish. Instead it took four years due to constant roadblocks thrown at us by the MTA, so it took four years, twice as long as it should have taken." Considering your track record, they should throw up road blocks. "By contrast, ONE MINOR bus route change WHICH I SUGGESTED, took the MTA FIVE YEARS to study and implement and they implemented that change internally, only having to deal with DOT. (We at City Planning had to deal with both DOT and the MTA.)" Good! They should take their time evaluating your ideas. "Do you understand that simple concept now that I have taken the time to break it down for you into bite size pieces?" You are still not making a point. Just endless rambling. "You also made the assumption that all my ideas fall between terrible and impossible WITHOUT ANY PROOF when you have no idea WHAT ALL MY SUGGESTIONS WERE. Again, that is a statement from someone who supposedly never makes assumptions." Just working with the ideas that you have put forwards here. If you universally propose ideas which range from impossible to manslaughter, I and others will continue to not take your ideas particularly seriously. "You keep changing your position, constantly make false assumptions, diminish other people's accomplishments because of your own jealousy, make assertions with zero proof, make incorrect statements, and then lie about all that." I do not frequently change my position. My assumptions are only false in your delusional eyes. I only diminish your "accomplishments" because they are absurd, and I never lie. "And Terrapin is the only one supporting you, Most everyone else here will agree with me regarding this post." Actually, plenty of people here and elsewhere agree with me. You have very little support here. Largely because most people seem to see you for the fraud that you are. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 12:55:18 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jun 24 12:38:10 2016. How does anybody know how many people support anybody on this list?I think there's a lot of interest in Brooklyn Bus' posts but who wants to get caught in the crossfire of offering an opinion. Who wants to savaged by Terrapin Station. My perception is that personalities take on more importance than the actual issues themselves. I remember a discussion on when to proceed through a green light. That was fighting just to fight. So what if a driver waits a few seconds after the light turns green to ensure not striking a lagging pedestrian. Some threads go on for so long I forget it's original purpose. I'd love Bus to start a thread: The earth is round and wait for Terrapin Station to argue. How about a little less heat and a lot more light. Bus doesn't respond with one word responses, e.g. "Nope", "Wrong", and "P3ned" like Cryin' Brian. I've read pleas to ban Terrapin Station. I haven't read pleas to ban Bus. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:04:07 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 12:55:18 2016. How does anybody know how many people support anybody on this list?Educated guesses based on a plethora of information. I think there's a lot of interest in Brooklyn Bus' postsYes, negative interest. So what if a driver waits a few seconds after the light turns green to ensure not striking a lagging pedestrian.If you cut out the immature stupidity, I'd tell you. For now, I'll just laugh at you for thinking it's no big deal. Some threads go on for so long I forget it's original purpose.That's because you don't understand how to use this forum. Many of the rest of us DO understand how to use this forum, so it's not even an issue. Long threads are awesome. I'd love Bus to start a thread: The earth is round and wait for Terrapin Station to argue.So you want him to troll? Haha! How about a little less heat and a lot more light.Sure. You can start by STFU, LOL! Bus doesn't respond with one word responses, e.g. "Nope", "Wrong", and "P3ned"So? I've read pleas to ban Terrapin Station. I haven't read pleas to ban Bus.LOL! There's no reason to ban BrooklynBus, that's why you haven't heard pleas to ban him! LOL!!!! And the supposed pleas to ban me came from know-nothing morons like yourself. Besides, since it has been said that I'm the moderator here, why would I ban myself? |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 13:10:08 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:04:07 2016. Lyin' Cryin' Brian Whinin' Weinberg:Prove you're the moderator by banning Bus. You can't do it. If Bus is still here by Sunday, you've proven your own impotence. Look at the responses to this thread. http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1345335 There's nothing of value you can teach me Cryin' Brian. Your taunts don't bother me like they used to because I've figured you out as dysfunctional little boy who grew up into a dysfunctional little man. You inflate your self-worth by knocking others down. P.S. You can't make an educated guess because you're not educated. Can't even hold a job as a mail clerk!! |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Jun 24 13:13:10 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 12:55:18 2016. I know quite a few posters in person, so I have a somewhat decent idea of what many think. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:14:36 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 13:10:08 2016. By posting completely false responses to all my points, you've shown that you have no legitimate responses and are giving up, and thus must know you are wrong. Thank you for admitting it. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:15:21 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jun 24 13:13:10 2016. Right, good point! Totally forgot about that. All the people that have told us offline how much they disagree with BrooklynBus! |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 13:19:28 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:14:36 2016. Up to your usual tricks of not responding and just saying "I win. You lose." So typical. Everybody sees right through you.You have proven how dense you are. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 13:24:00 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:15:21 2016. Why are they afraid to disagree on line? Sending private messages can't be verified. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 13:25:39 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:15:21 2016. Why are they afraid to disagree on line? Sending private messages can't be verified. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:39:10 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 13:24:00 2016. LOL! Not private message! In person!!!! Unlike you and BrooklynBus, R30A and I are friends with many of the people on this forum IN REAL LIFE. We meet up IN REAL LIFE. And when we meet up, we sometimes talk about this forum. That's when plenty of people who don't care to engage BrooklynBus and you in your stupidity tell us how much they disagree with you two. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:39:45 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 13:19:28 2016. Nope. I already used that line. You can't use that line. LOL!!!!! You have no idea how this stuff works. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:40:39 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:04:07 2016. bumpRe: Dictatorship not Democracy (314856) Waiting for legitimate responses that I can legitimately respond to. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 15:09:48 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:40:39 2016. So now you're responding to YOURSELF.P3wned!!! |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 15:11:04 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:39:10 2016. You have friends??? I want proof of that. The number of friends you have is UNVERIFIED so I don't believe the statement. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 24 15:28:26 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:15:21 2016. All the people that have told us offline how much they disagree with BrooklynBus!Including people not on this or any online forum. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Jun 24 15:41:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 15:11:04 2016. I've known him for 14 years. I've known Ripta for 15. ETC. many of us know each other.And even people I know who don't like Brian still think BB is an idiot. (their words, not mine.) |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 15:43:27 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jun 24 15:41:30 2016. Disliking Cryin' Brian and Bus are not mutually exclusive. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Jun 24 15:57:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 15:43:27 2016. Certainly not! I didn't mean to imply that they were. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 24 17:44:16 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 15:09:48 2016. Nope. You're wrong. As usual. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 24 17:45:36 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 24 15:28:26 2016. Yep! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 24 17:45:51 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jun 24 15:41:30 2016. Exactly. Pwn3d. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 19:17:05 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 24 17:44:16 2016. No, I'm right. Here's the proof.view flat Re: Dictatorship not Democracy Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:40:39 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jun 24 13:04:07 2016. bump |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 24 19:51:20 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 19:17:05 2016. Nope, you're still wrong. You didn't address what I'm obviously talking about. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 24 20:13:33 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jun 24 12:38:10 2016. This back and forth is getting ridiculous where you dissect every word.Okay you didn't say you don't make assumptions. You said you never make assumptions and state them as fact. Maybe so, but you state them as probabilities when in fact there is no probability. Like D when you stated someone else would have caught the $4 million error. I proved to you how that didn't happen so stating it as a probability is just as bad as stating it as a fact. Also, your assumptions are frequently incorrect. I stated that 100 others assisted me in recouping the $30 million. YOU ASSUMED. They did most of the work which was untrue. so I explained that I worked on the project for three years and none of the others spent more than one month. YOU THEN MADE THE FALSE ASSUMPTION THAT THEY DID NOT WORK CONCURRENTLY BY STATING THERE WAS A HIGH TURNOVER. Then you went on further that this turnover was do to my being incredibly difficult to work with. So not only have you never heard of teamwork, you never heard of 100 people working in a single project at more or less the same time. I had to coordinate with dozens of departments within the NYCT as well as the other MTA agencies who had employees charging time to the 911 recovery effort. NO ONE LEFT THEIR JOB BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T WORK WITH ME. You just make inaccurate assumptions and state untrue probabilities with zero proof to disprove my many accomplishments while making innuendos like my accomplishments are absurd. SO I WAS CORRECT BY PREDICTING YOUR RESPONSE WOULD BE THAT I AM LYING. Everything I stated is true and I do not have to defend myself to you. THE RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH AND AS YOU ADMITTED YOU ARE INCREDIBLY JEALOUS. I don't believe you were being sarcastic for a single minute. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 23:20:06 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 24 19:51:20 2016. I don't care what you were talking about. I proved you responded to yourself. Double P3wned!!Bad night for you. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jun 25 22:58:40 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jun 24 23:20:06 2016. No I'm not. You're wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jun 25 23:43:39 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 24 20:13:33 2016. I'm sorry to say but you just don't seem to get it. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jun 26 22:33:50 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jun 25 23:43:39 2016. Don't be sorry.I get everything. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jun 26 22:34:42 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jun 25 22:58:40 2016. You are the one who is wrong. |
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Posted by R30A on Sun Jun 26 22:56:11 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 24 20:13:33 2016. "This back and forth is getting ridiculous where you dissect every word."I don't dissect every word. Sometimes I go down to the sentence level, and occasionally down to the phrase, but not every word. "Okay you didn't say you don't make assumptions." Correct! "You said you never make assumptions and state them as fact." Correct! "Maybe so, but you state them as probabilities when in fact there is no probability." A. In many cases where you seem to assume I have assigned a probability to something, when I have not. B. Probabilities range from 0 to 1, so this statement is meaningless. C. In many of these cases, they are rather high, you just do not understand the situation. "Like D when you stated someone else would have caught the $4 million error. I proved to you how that didn't happen so stating it as a probability is just as bad as stating it as a fact." A. You proved nothing. B. If the probability of an event in reality is .6 and you assume it is .8, that is without a doubt better than assuming 1, so your argument is false. "Also, your assumptions are frequently incorrect." Actually, they tend not to be. That is why I make them! "I stated that 100 others assisted me in recouping the $30 million." Yes, you did! "YOU ASSUMED. They did most of the work which was untrue." You claim such. For 31 people to work on a project and have one person do a majority of the work is not a believable outcome. Especially not from the one person who claims to do the work, when they are somebody who has a track record of inflating their worth. "so I explained that I worked on the project for three years and none of the others spent more than one month. YOU THEN MADE THE FALSE ASSUMPTION THAT THEY DID NOT WORK CONCURRENTLY BY STATING THERE WAS A HIGH TURNOVER." I made no such assumption. High turnover was a stated fact by yourself. Literally in the sentence before this one. None of the others spent more than a month. If I was wrong in assuming that your statement was true, I apologize. I know better, but was assuming such for the sake of argument. "Then you went on further that this turnover was do to my being incredibly difficult to work with." I do not claim such is certain. It just appears highly likely. "So not only have you never heard of teamwork, you never heard of 100 people working in a single project at more or less the same time." I have actually heard of both! "I had to coordinate with dozens of departments within the NYCT as well as the other MTA agencies who had employees charging time to the 911 recovery effort." wow! "NO ONE LEFT THEIR JOB BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T WORK WITH ME." I think most incompetent people would like to think that. "You just make inaccurate assumptions and state untrue probabilities with zero proof to disprove my many accomplishments while making innuendos like my accomplishments are absurd." You disprove your supposed accomplishments whenever you post, when you demonstrate a severe lack of understanding of traffic engineering, transportation systems, and even simple arithmetic functions. Also, when have I stated a probability" "SO I WAS CORRECT BY PREDICTING YOUR RESPONSE WOULD BE THAT I AM LYING." Nah. I will not reject the possibility, but I think you may in fact be delusional enough to think all of this, in which case it would not be a lie. Such would not however make any of it true. "Everything I stated is true and I do not have to defend myself to you." Myself and others have repeatedly shown that not everything you state is true. It is plainly obvious that a clear majority of your writings have at least some significant factual errors. "THE RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF." Yup. "YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH AND AS YOU ADMITTED YOU ARE INCREDIBLY JEALOUS." lol. "I don't believe you were being sarcastic for a single minute." If I had any internal doubt that I was being sarcastic, thank you for reducing it! |
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Posted by R30A on Sun Jun 26 22:57:07 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jun 26 22:33:50 2016. LOL. Most false statement of the millennium. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 26 23:17:40 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jun 26 22:33:50 2016. Sorry, but I am sorry for you. You just don't get a lot of things, including what is going on here. You just don't do well on the internets. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 26 23:18:11 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jun 26 22:34:42 2016. No I'm not. He is wrong. And now you are wrong too! You just can't win! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 26 23:22:26 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Sun Jun 26 22:56:11 2016. Great post! |
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Posted by nostalgia on Sun Jun 26 23:32:20 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 26 23:17:40 2016. I'm sorry for you, Lyin' Cryin' Brian Whinnin' Weinberg. Bus had a job as a MTA planner. Your only job was a mail clerk and you even couldn't do that right.You use this list to cover up for your own inadequacies. This list is your fantasy world where you are the top dog. Since you wrote that you're moderator, I dared you to ban Bus. But he's still here showing your impotence. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jun 27 00:00:37 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Sun Jun 26 23:32:20 2016. Learn HTML you damn old fool! LOL!!!! I pwn3d j00!!!! |
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Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 27 05:16:06 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jun 27 00:00:37 2016. Learn how to write English. I know it's difficult for you. You show how juvenile you are every time and it's difficult to take you seriously, Cryin' Whinin' Brian. I'll give you credit. You do live up to your name and never disappoint because you're so predictable. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 27 05:36:52 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 26 23:18:11 2016. This is rich. A fired mail clerk is writing that a transit professional is wrong without any basis. You don't have any professional qualifications but that doesn't stop you from writing.Glad we now have that straight. |
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