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Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Mar 15 15:02:51 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by R30A on Tue Mar 15 14:29:12 2016.

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The B46 is the closest parallel route to the B44 when you consider the north and southern terminals, yet 2014 data shows paid ridership on the B44 declined by twice the amount of decline for the B46. So your assertion that parallel route declines are similar to SBS declines IS NOT EVEN CORRECT. Even if it were true, it is certainly not a point to brag about because SBS ridership should be going up not declining if the routes are successful.

I certainly understand what the peak hour means and understand it is of limited use when evaluating a proposal being in effect for 24 hours not only for one hour.

"I am saying that ...SBS...resulted in longer distance riders taking the SBS over local buses."

Yes that makes sense if their origin and destination is near an SBS stop. It would not be true for riders getting on or off at Avenue R for example or those with a destination on New York Avenue. But long distance passengers are not the only ones who matter. New York Avenue service was cut in half and those users have to also be considered.

Walking distances are certainly greater for Avenue R users as well as Avenue L users before that SBS stop was added. Those switching from the B54 to the B52 changing to the B44 also have longer walking distances as many others. And you are Eden denying that getting a receipt before you board increases the likelihood of missing a bus possibly wiping out all your possible SBS time savings.

Not everyone is able bodied enough to be able to walk a half mile especially during inclement weather when it is especially inconvenient.

I wouldn't expect you to believe any counts I take because your mind is made up and you have no intention of changing. AND YES THEY ARE REAL COUNTS even if you don't believe them.

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