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Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Mar 15 16:34:11 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Mar 15 16:05:33 2016. "There are other routes than the B46, but you won't use it because it doesn't show what you want it to show but using it is better than the B43 which does not cover the lower portion of Brooklyn or the B49 which doesn't cover the upper portion. Still rather than picking and choosing parallel routes, it makes better sense to compare SBS routes with the borough wide average which I previously did. But you chose selected parallel route for your analysis in order to get the numbers you wanted. That is not how you should plan."B41 is down a lot more. As is the B49. Perhaps ridership towards the south end of the line is down a lot more? The numbers certainly don't show that the problem is the SBS conversion. "The only SBS bus routes where ridership went up were in the" Bronx. That is not one out of five boroughs. Actually the Bronx would be one out of five boroughs. However... The only SBS routes where ridership went up were the ones in Manhattan, the Bronx, and Staten Island. The one Brooklyn route went down. The queens route is too new to have statistics. So you are correct. Manhattan, the Bronx, and Staten Island is 3 out of the 4 boroughs which had SBS services. "Peak hour represents what is happening in the peak hour and nothing else. It means traffic is lighter in other hours, not that the percentage of bus riders to other users remains the same during other hours." Correct. But since the road is being engineered to BETTER HANDLE PEAK TRAFFIC, there is no reason to believe such will not be able to handle OFF PEAK traffic. "And where can Avenue R riders board the SBS? Either at Kings Highway or Avenue U." YES! You answered the question yourself! I'm proud of you. "Both stops are about 9 minutes away walking briskly. Twelve or 15 minutes for those with walking difficulties." Reasonable estimates. "That is greater than their time savings with SBS unless they are traveling all the way to Williamsburg Plaza in which case they may still save a minute or 2 but would probably still choose the local so as not to have to walk that much." Certainly possible. So you have demonstrated that the most harmed rider by the B44 SBS might actually be helped under some situations, and are not minimally harmed regardless. Glad to see you support B44 SBS! "And walking from Rogers to New York Avenue takes six minutes, also about equal to their SBS time savings so these people probably would still choose the local." Who says they are all walking from New York to Rogers avenue? Those who previously had to make that walk no longer have to! "Bus operators are instructed not to wait fir passengers getting receipts. If he waits he is violating procedure and get in trouble." That is obviously not what is happening. I suspect it depends on how they are doing schedulewise. "Yes people who are not able bodied and cannot walk long distances do still have the local." Yup. "Many also previously ripoff the faster Limited and now have slower trips." No idea what you could possibly mean here. "I am certainly able to count having done it many times professionally." You have clearly lost that skill. "You are the only me being dishonest here by cherry picking your data to prove your preconceived thoughts even if it defies all logic." It may be hard for you to discern which of your multiple personalities is the dishonest one, but I assure you, I am not one of your personalities. My voice is not coming from inside your head. |
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