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Posted by R30A on Tue Mar 15 15:26:10 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Mar 15 15:02:51 2016. "The B46 is the closest parallel route to the B44 when you consider the north and southern terminals, yet 2014 data shows paid ridership on the B44 declined by twice the amount of decline for the B46."There are other routes than just the B46 you know. "So your assertion that parallel route declines are similar to SBS declines IS NOT EVEN CORRECT." No. It is correct in general. "Even if it were true, it is certainly not a point to brag about Because SBS ridership should be going up not declining if the routes are successful." Who is bragging about it? The other routes went up, so its all good! "I certainly understand what the peak hour means and understand it is of limited use when evaluating a proposal being in effect for 24 hours not only for one hour." Ok, fine, you understand what a peak hour is. I guess the issue is you don't understand what it represents. "Yes that makes sense if their origin and destination is near an SBS stop. It would not be true for riders getting on or off at Avenue R for example or those with a destination on New York Avenue." Avenue R stop riders can get on somewhere else. Those on New York Avenue can walk from Rogers. "But long distance passengers are not the only ones who matter." Nobody said they were. "New York Avenue service was cut in half and those users have to also be considered." And most of them can walk to Rogers. Or take the local. Who says they aren't being considered? "Walking distances are certainly greater for Avenue R users as well as Avenue L users before that SBS stop was added." Yeah, they'll have to walk a little longer. Probably 1/4-1/3rd mi on average. Or they can take the local. Not that big of a deal. "Those switching from the B54 to the B52 changing to the B44 also have longer walking distances as many others." The B52 has a great connection to the B44 SBS. The B54 is not a long walk. "And you are Eden denying that getting a receipt before you board increases the likelihood of missing a bus possibly wiping out all your possible SBS time savings." They usually wait for you. Nobody in their right mind is against off board fare collection. "Not everyone is able bodied enough to be able to walk a half mile especially during inclement weather when it is especially inconvenient." Not everybody is. They still have the local. "I wouldn't expect you to believe any counts I take because your mind is made up and you have no intention of changing. AND YES THEY ARE REAL COUNTS even if you don't believe them." lol. No they aren't. I don't trust such counts on people who are any of the following: A. Demonstrably unable to see. B. Dishonest. C. Demonstrably unable to count. You win 3/3! Just one of the three is enough to throw out your numbers. |
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