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Re: ''World Class Bus Rapid Transit'' for Woodhaven Blvd... lol

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 4 11:35:37 2014, in response to Re: ''World Class Bus Rapid Transit'' for Woodhaven Blvd... lol, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 4 09:45:01 2014.

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I wasn't talking about the queue space on 94th, but after you make the left onto 103rd. That's probably why they wouldn't allow a left turn there. Even an extra 1,000 feet is time consuming when traffic isn't moving.

I was talking about queue space on eastbound Rockaway Boulevard between 94th Street and Woodhaven Boulevard. Yes, it's limited, but it isn't particularly challenging to manage with signal timing. The extra 1,000 feet is not going to take anywhere near ten minutes. In fact, when traffic is at its heaviest, it would take multiple cycles to turn left from Woodhaven Boulevard onto Rockaway Boulevard and the 103rd Avenue detour would probably save time.

What about left turns to Metropolitan Avenue going south? cars would have to turn left at the next corner and they would need their own left turn cycle? They would have to fight the shopping center traffic as well to get back to Metropolitan.

Similar to using 103rd Avenue to Rockaway Boulevard, you could use Cooper Avenue to Metropolitan. Or put the left turn lanes back into the median, but that adds a signal phase. That's why these are labeled "Conceptual design for discussion."

And they also want to ban the left turn at Union Turnpike except for buses, under the Congested Corridors study.

But the Congested Corridors concept has a dual left at Metropolitan, which would presumably absorb that demand. Metropolitan and Union Turnpike intersect three quarters of a mile east of Woodhaven Boulevard.

There are so many things that can be done to improve auto travel and safety, but DOT is only interested in SBS and Vision Zero.

Eliminating some of these lefts does a lot to improve safety. The lefts at Metropolitan and Woodhaven are permitted on the green ball, which is virtually unheard of in the civilized world with more than two lanes of opposing traffic. The left at Rockaway Boulevard is protected only, but the left through lane becomes an exclusive left turn lane, which "traps" through vehicles, causing congestion when they have to change lanes and increasing the risk of rear end crashes.

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