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Re: ''World Class Bus Rapid Transit'' for Woodhaven Blvd... lol

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 5 18:31:05 2014, in response to Re: ''World Class Bus Rapid Transit'' for Woodhaven Blvd... lol, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 5 14:17:56 2014.

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Your plan at Metropolitan requires trucks to make a left turn from the right lane into the right lane and it would have to be done very cautiously and would be extremely tie consuming. Doesn't at all sound like a safe plan and I do not believe it would be legal either. A single truck woud totally tie up traffic on Cooper because cars would already be lined up in the left lane waiting to make a turn. If a truck s also waiting in thrift and to ale a left, that means all traffic on Cooper comes to a complete halt until the truck makes his turn. And you don't believe it would take cars ten minutes longer to use tat route? Better think again.

My reroute using 88 Street was five minutes quicker than Woodhaven because I was constantly moving, although I had to travel further, while Woodaven traffic over the bridge was standing still at least 50% of the time. if the alternative you suggest to stay on 88 St until 81 Road were viable, don't you think I would have used it. Yes, on Google Maps the street is empty, but during the evening rush hour it is solid cars between 78 Avenue and 81 Road making it just as bad as Woodhaven.

Funny my personal experience is similar to the scores of other cars who were smart enough to use the same reroute as I did. It is still better than a traffic engineer who s panning with no experience at all.

You supposed to make a right turn from Woodhaven by knowing not to get on the main roadway in the first place if you have to make a right.

I have been to every other Woodhaven SBS meeting as well as the last Congested Corridors meeting. I am skipping the one tonight because SBS is a forgone conclusion. It does not matter what anyone says. The plan will still be implemented with many drivers inconvenienced.

In order for someone to intelligently comment on the plan, they have to know what the plan is. You do that by explaining it completely by explaining all the advantages and disadvantages and showing every block ofthe plan. You proved numbers as to what you expect travel times for motorists to be as compared to the present. That will not be done.

Several poster boards will be displayed showing what is already on the Internet. Mst people will not even realize from looking at the diagrams that the two left turns we dscussed will be banned. If someone asks the question, they will be answered privately so that others who do not see it will never know. That is intentional to limit knowledge and discussion.

Yes, a few minor changes may be made, but this is not meaningful community participation. I have no more time to waste on these meaningless meetings. I am just glad I do not have to use Woodhaven on a daily basis anymore. Not being able to use 88 Street as I used to do would be frustrating enough. I couldn't handle more traffic and fewer lanes. I can only educate everyone as to the questions to ask which I am doing.

How do I know what will happen at tonight's meeting? Because that is exactly how the B44 SBS was presented to the public. Here look at some sampe intersections and tell us what you think. There was no mention that any parking spaces will be eliminated, and when asked te question, DOT would only answer that the number would be insignificant.

Also, not a word was mentioned about a lane of traffic being removed to accommodate the exclusive bus lane. It was up to you to look at the pictures and count the lanes to figure it out for yourself. Many people only believe what they are told and do not take the time to figure out what they are not told. You are told bus service will be quicker and it is up to you to figure out that car and truck travel will be slowed.

Most who use Woodhaven and do not live near the corridor (and there are plenty) have absolutely no idea of what is being planned for auto traffic. They only hear bus travel will be improved but don't realize how that will be accomplished. DOT has not even stated the hours SBS will be in effect or explained the differences between SBS and BRT. The only thing that is keeping DOT from doing full BRT is they don't have the money yet. They don't care that it makes absolutely no sense at all for exclusive bus lanes on weekends because buses would save no time at all since they are already traveling at top speed.


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