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Re: ''World Class Bus Rapid Transit'' for Woodhaven Blvd... lol

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 5 08:57:52 2014, in response to Re: ''World Class Bus Rapid Transit'' for Woodhaven Blvd... lol, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 4 18:40:13 2014.

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About Metropolitan, I wasn't speaking about northbound traffic. I realize they could use Cooper. It's southbound that is problematic and what I was talking about. You would need a left turn cycle at 73rd Avenue which would cause big delays on the overpass.

I was talking about southbound. How would northbound traffic on Woodhaven Boulevard use Cooper to get to westbound Metropolitan? Southbound traffic wouldn't have to turn left at 73rd; they could turn *right* onto Cooper and left onto Metropolitan.

88 St provided a quick bypass saving 5 minutes during ties of heavy traffic, but DOT eliminated that option by forcing all cars on the service road going south to turn right onto Union Turnpike. When I told them what they did, try said they had no idea savvy drivers were using 88 St as a bypass.

It's impossible that it saved time; you already said that diverting traffic onto local streets would add TEN MINUTES to travel time. I don't see how that change affects cut through traffic on 88th Street at all; the only people who would be inconvenienced much are those parked on that block of the service road.

Regarding the protected left turn lane causing back up for through traffic at Rockaway Blvd, that has been a problem for a long time but is easily remedied. All they need to do is to provide a mid block exit to the service road north of 103 Av.

I suggested that to them. Their response was " But that means we will have to cut down a few trees.". They made it sound that cutting down two trees would pose a problem. But they have no problem cutting down about 100 trees or more for SBS which of course they never bothered to mention.


A mid block slip lane to the service road would just shift the queuing problem from the left lane at Rockaway Boulevard to the right lane north of 103rd Street. There's no way that traffic could simply merge into the service road without stopping. As far as tree removal goes, the person giving that response probably isn't the same individual responsible for developing SBS concepts. He would happy to note that at least on the block between 103rd Avenue and Liberty Avenue, 12 trees would be removed but 20 new trees would be added.

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