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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:22:49 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Wed Jul 16 23:00:43 2008. Look IDIOT...keep your BS stupidity to yourself. Don't comment on Chicago ever. You are the biggest no=nothing I have ever seen.AND LEARN HOW TO SPELL view flat Get It Through You Head...No one wants to hear "Your Opinion". You are too stupid to have an opinion. Can you name ONE person on this forum who said YOU were SMART???? Can you name any person on this planet, besides your parents and your teachers who said you were SMART?? Your parents had a vested interest and your teachers were paid to do it. I know...I was a teacher. You still haven't answered my question. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 17 00:24:42 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by J Trainloco on Wed Jul 16 23:37:23 2008. And proportionally... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 17 00:25:18 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by BMTLines on Wed Jul 16 23:37:47 2008. um, 2 cars only. You sit in the rest. |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:27:10 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jul 17 00:20:17 2008. I was referring to quality, not ridership. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 17 00:27:56 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:22:49 2008. Yes, some people have called me smart, not on this board, but on this planet, yes. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 17 00:28:32 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:27:10 2008. you don't know THE FIRST THING about quality. you can't even properly compare anything to save your life. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 17 00:28:56 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:02:05 2008. It's not a stunt. It's a great idea. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 17 00:29:37 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Jul 16 23:59:49 2008. it's only two cars per set...and I don't think it would be permanent. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:30:32 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 17 00:27:56 2008. Yes, some people have called me smart, not on this board, but on this planet, yes.Names...prove it. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 17 00:32:55 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:30:32 2008. WHOA! Names? That is personal info. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jul 17 00:33:48 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:27:10 2008. I was referring to quality, not ridership.I rode on BART. I wouldn't magically call it the second best system in the US... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 17 00:35:11 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jul 17 00:33:48 2008. I wouldn't magically call it the second best system in the US...But Forest Glen would! |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jul 17 00:38:19 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:02:05 2008. Neither BART nor the Metro would pull a stunt like this.That's funny, cause WMATA did float the idea, just as the CTA did: http://www.wmata.com/survey/railcar/railcar_survey.cfm |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jul 17 00:40:10 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 17 00:29:37 2008. it's only two cars per set...? I fail to see what this has to do with anything. I previously stated that I have no problem with the proposed plan, but it would be better for the cars to have flip-up seating for greater flexibility during off-peak hours and weekends. and I don't think it would be permanent. By "permanent" I meant that the seats couldn't be quickly put back in at, say, the end of rush hour when crowding isn't an issue. |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:40:20 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by WillD on Thu Jul 17 00:38:19 2008. At least the Metro factored in customer input instead of just making a decision without feedback. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jul 17 00:40:47 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:27:10 2008. Quality is a subjective term. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:46:43 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:40:20 2008. At least the Metro factored in customer input instead of just making a decision without feedbackSorry that you misunderstood....reread the quoted statement. The idea is only "under review." In Chicago's political climate,,,no changes will be done without input from the public. My take, this is just to insure that longitudinal seating gets in. David Harrison |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jul 17 00:46:53 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jul 17 00:40:47 2008. You took the words right out of my mouth, I was going to post the exact same thing. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Thu Jul 17 00:48:11 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Jul 17 00:03:25 2008. The governor's. It was the only way to avoid "doomsday." |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 17 00:50:52 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Wed Jul 16 23:52:22 2008. OOooooo! NICE pretty baton style track warrant! And with a hubcap on the end of the chain too. Nice touch! So ... track speed or yard speed for the meet? Heh. WILCO. :) |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jul 17 00:53:37 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:40:20 2008. That's simply not true. The whole idea behind this idea being floated is to gauge public support. They are doing it with an eye toward actually changing the seating arrangement, likely to a longitudinal seating arrangement. This is distinctly different from WMATA's approach because WMATA can add cars and expand to 8 car trains, a consequence of their newer system, so it is not absolutely neccesary for them to change anything within the cars. Chicago does not have that luxury and has crowding problems which are as bad, if not worse, than Metro. Thus the CTA can threaten to put two cars without seats in each train and then compromise to adopt a longitudinal seating arrangement which provides a balance between seating and standee space. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:54:49 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 17 00:32:55 2008. WHOA! Names? That is personal info.How is it personal....no one here would even know the person. Fact is...you have no names...the persons don't exist. Add a new word to your vocabulary FRAUD. Now you did wrong was to reply using all those favorite terms of yours that make no sense. Go back and re-read. NO way would I answer any of your questions, ever. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:56:09 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Jul 17 00:03:25 2008. I personally posted this on this forum. You missed out,David Harrison |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:57:32 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by WillD on Thu Jul 17 00:53:37 2008. I see we are in agreement..David Harrison |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:59:35 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 17 00:50:52 2008. Somebody must've text messaged him, LOL. Thanks though.David Harrison |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 17 01:09:52 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:59:35 2008. Heh. Nope, I don't do IM's ... takes enough for me to punch an alertor without putting it through the panel for annoying me. :)If you can hoop me up that banana now, though ... (grin) |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 01:29:24 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 17 01:09:52 2008. Not you...somebody else. But for an item under "review", this sure got a lot of hits.But on your subject, all the 6000s had cabs that dressed down to allow for public seating and use. The 1-50s didn't. The Pullman 2000s also allowed for passenger use of the cab, but operating procedures usually kept the cab in the last car locked, With the 2400 series cars in the late 70s, the dedicated motorman cabs came to the CTA. As to standing, CTA rules are more stringent, motormen were required to stand through interlockings, on curves, through work zones. Many motormen stood the entire route, sort of leaned against the window and car body. David Harrison |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 17 07:06:59 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:40:20 2008. That's a retarded statement. As the other two pointed out, no that's not what happened, and it's not what would happen. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 17 07:11:13 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jul 17 00:40:10 2008. ? I fail to see what this has to do with anything.You said you didn't want to see all the seats removed from cars. But it's only two cars in a larger set. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Thu Jul 17 09:34:01 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:02:05 2008. IMO BART is #2 in the nation behind the Metro.The method of ranking you use is based on emotion. The method of rankings everybody else uses are based on statistics. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Thu Jul 17 09:41:04 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jul 17 00:40:47 2008. Quality is a subjective term.See: http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=651308 John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Thu Jul 17 11:08:34 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by WillD on Thu Jul 17 00:53:37 2008. This is distinctly different from WMATA's approach because WMATA can add cars and expand to 8 car trains . . .There is a problem with that conclusion. WMATA doesn't have the cars to run more 8 car trains. Ad to that the next car procurement (500 over 10 years starting in 2012) is in limbo because the Virginia legislature special session that concluded last week ended in a stalemate on what transportation project in the commonwealth would get funding. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 11:13:35 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:54:49 2008. WHOA! Names? That is personal info.How is it personal....no one here would even know the person. Fact is...you have no names...the persons don't exist. Add a new word to your vocabulary FRAUD. Now you did wrong was to reply using all those favorite terms of yours that make no sense. Go back and re-read. NO way would I answer any of your questions, ever. This is what is wrong with your first post.... 1. SHAME...Why do you keep using this stupid word over and over. If no one on this forum thinks youy are smart...YOU ADMITTED THAT...then no one cares for your opinion here. 2. BULLL....What is this??? You can't spell???Why do you keep using this stupid word over and over. If no one on this forum thinks youy are smart...YOU ADMITTED THAT...then no one cares for your opinion here. 3. IGNORANCE....Same thing again. Besides YOU..who is ignorant? You are the most ignorant person we know on this forum. Why do you keep using this stupid word over and over. If no one on this forum thinks youy are smart...YOU ADMITTED THAT...then no one cares for your opinion here. 4. ABUSE...Who was abused? Why do you keep using this stupid word over and over. If no one on this forum thinks youy are smart...YOU ADMITTED THAT...then no one cares for your opinion here. 5. FASCISM...What is your definition of fascism? Any CEO or head has to make decisions.Why do you keep using this stupid word over and over. If no one on this forum thinks youy are smart...YOU ADMITTED THAT...then no one cares for your opinion here. 6. This is a SHAME, why would they do this? NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING...they are just reviewing a possibility. 7. Are they trying to run a fascist railroad? What the hell is a "facist railroad?" 8. I was joking before about the TA ordering the next cars without seats, but now it seems like a realit!!!! (SPELLING???) What is this?? 9. No customer service these days. SHAME. There's that banned word. RE-READ above!! 10. McAdoo would never allow this... Why do you keep using this man's name over and over. If no one on this forum thinks youy are smart...YOU ADMITTED THAT...then no one cares for your opinion. This man was involved in transit 100 YEARS ago. What do you use that's 100 years old. 11. Also, it is the BS signalling system which slows the trains down.. Where did you get this stupid idea? Who told you our trains are slow. Was it the same person who taught you passenger trains can go 70 MPH without signals?? There is no way we can correct every stupid idea you have learned. Now there are eleven items in this post...count them. If you do not reply to all of them, FORGET LOOKING FOR ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS. I WON'T GIVE ANY ANSWERS. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jul 17 11:44:41 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 00:54:49 2008. Names are personal....because he would have to give you HIS OWN NAME as the great authority for his alleged brilliance! |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 17 11:45:57 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 11:13:35 2008. Why are you so mean? I meant passenger trains can go 79 MPH unless they have an active signalling system with alerters and all. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 11:52:43 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 17 11:45:57 2008. Why are you so mean? I meant passenger trains can go 79 MPH unless they have an active signalling system with alerters and all.Insisting that you conform and stop your stupid repetitive responses is not "mean." Your response is not a correct response. Do I need to repeat all eleven items for you. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Jul 17 11:56:43 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 17 00:27:10 2008. speaking as a regular BART rider who has previously lived in DC, NYC,Philly, Chgo, I would not rank BART at the top. CTA runs more frequently (last sample 1 July), BART and Metro both feature ripoff/distance fares and in BART's case there is NO high use pass. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 17 12:05:32 2008, in response to "You Can't Sit Down": CTA, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Wed Jul 16 22:44:30 2008. I've always advocated this be done on the 42nd St. shuttle, and maybe some #6 trains. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jul 17 12:08:11 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 17 07:11:13 2008. You said you didn't want to see all the seats removed from cars. But it's only two cars in a larger set.No, that's not what I said. What I said is that I didn't want the seats to be permanently removed from the cars that they'd be removing the seats from. What about off-peak hours and weekends? That's why I favor a flexible flip-up seating system if they really intend on implementing something like this. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 12:12:20 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jul 17 12:08:11 2008. What I said is that I didn't want the seats to be permanently removed from the cars that they'd be removing the seats from. What about off-peak hours and weekends? That's why I favor a flexible flip-up seating system if they really intend on implementing something like this.On the Brown, Red, and Blue lines there are eight car trainsets that are only used for weekday rush hour. Theoretically, the no seat cars would be entrained in these consists as "belly cars." This is what is done with cars that have BO cab signals. David Harrison |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 13:10:23 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 11:52:43 2008. It's still here...............Why are you so mean? I meant passenger trains can go 79 MPH unless they have an active signalling system with alerters and all. Insisting that you conform and stop your stupid repetitive responses is not "mean." Your response is not a correct response. Do I need to repeat all eleven items for you. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 17 13:21:30 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 01:29:24 2008. As best I remember, we only had to stand in the yard and work zones by rule, but the objective was being able to see your iron and most of all the trippers. When keying by, you also had to stand as well as making sure the arm was driven down when a signal cleared. But the latter was common sense and as best I recall, not a "rule." |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 17 13:25:23 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 13:10:23 2008. What are you trying to say? You want me to think like you do? And you never justified the trucking of 600 railcars.WASTE. CTA should have the facilities to overhaul their cars like NYCTA can, CTA has a big fleet too. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Jul 17 13:26:42 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Thu Jul 17 00:48:11 2008. Dug this up. Turns out that it is funded by the state. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jul 17 13:32:52 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by J Trainloco on Wed Jul 16 23:37:23 2008. If you live further away, you're basically getting totally screwed.If you live further away, board one of the six cars with seats. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 13:34:46 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 17 13:25:23 2008. You did not respond correctly.You added more forbidden language...."waste." The last exchanges we had you finally admitted you were wrong in saying what you said and retracted the statements. I then posted the explanation of the CTA rehab. You never responded. I don't have time to babysit you. You can go back and find tha response. I will not repeat it because you have failed to comply with this latest exchange. Until you comply...NOTHING. Call it mean if yo want to. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 13:36:16 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 17 13:21:30 2008. Thanks, good explanation.David Harrison |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Jul 17 13:38:23 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA For JournalSquare, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 13:34:46 2008. You never really explained it. You gave a few reasons why they migh choose trucks over rail such as danger of damage and vandalization, and bein able to reach the destination....and i wonder how freight railroads stay in buisiness, and make profit. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Jul 17 13:40:20 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Jul 17 13:26:42 2008. Not quite funded by the state. Simply stated, the free rides are subtracted from the state money supplied. The transit agencies pay for it. If the agencies didn't pay, the state money would not have been coming. Ransom in a word. But its a whole separate subject, especially when you add in what will in happen next year's budget.David Harrison |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jul 17 13:41:22 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by BMTLines on Wed Jul 16 23:37:47 2008. Today it seems that transit agencies couldn't care less about comfort.On the contrary, ridership levels have been low in the past few decades, so modern rapid transit cars (outside of New York) favor comfort over capacity - they have less standing room and fewer doors to accommodate more seats. Now that ridership is exploding, 2x2 transverse seating is proving to be a major problem. |
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