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Re: SHUT UP (Re: LARRY PLEASE REEF THIS THREAD! Was: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!) |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Feb 23 16:37:21 2008, in response to SHUT UP (Re: LARRY PLEASE REEF THIS THREAD! Was: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!), posted by G1Ravage on Sat Feb 23 01:05:02 2008. I'm sick of people screaming for reefs out of the blue. Larry reads the board. If he feels a thread needs to be reefed, he'll do it himself.In fact, he reefed this massive thread the day before yesterday. |
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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN! |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Sat Feb 23 17:55:41 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Lord Vader on Sat Feb 23 13:40:07 2008. Kind, thoughtful and encouraging words.We need more of them around this place. Thanks. :) |
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Re: REEFED BY A COP— AGAIN! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 23 18:36:45 2008, in response to Re: REEFED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Feb 22 18:09:11 2008. No, you went one post too far. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 23 18:42:36 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Feb 22 17:31:34 2008. When a policeman asks you to do something, you comply (unless it is something outrageous).There's a big difference between "put down that gun or I'll shoot" and "turn off your camcorder". One should be able to seek clarification about the latter without the situation escalating, unlike the former. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Feb 23 18:48:49 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 22 07:09:50 2008. why not? If you want to back him up you could stand up w/him and tell the cops they are wrong to deny him his rights to take pics, should he get stopped. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat Feb 23 18:53:33 2008, in response to Re: REEFED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 22 11:27:02 2008. HAHAH--- Unca Shoebeam just realized Brian's in teh neighborhood!! (which has been common knowledge since like 2004).HINT: all his "commute pics" usually begin in the area of 231 so.... add it up lad!! |
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Re:WHO OWNS GRAND CENTRAL TERMINAL? |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat Feb 23 18:57:04 2008, in response to Re:WHO OWNS GRAND CENTRAL TERMINAL?, posted by monorail on Thu Feb 21 18:38:35 2008. PHACK!! Hate people putting up trivial questions they don't intend to answer. |
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Re: Sigh. (Reefing Debate; eons ago, was ''Robbed By A Cop.'') |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Feb 23 20:04:44 2008, in response to Sigh. (Reefing Debate; eons ago, was "Robbed By A Cop."), posted by Nilet on Sat Feb 23 01:31:23 2008. He can reef certain posts while leaving the main thread intact, happened a few times. Either that or he just deletes the posts. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Feb 23 20:09:04 2008, in response to Re: REEFED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 23 18:36:45 2008. No I didn't. I saw he insulted you, but you called him "stupid" first. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Feb 23 20:16:52 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 23 18:42:36 2008. As I said, it depends on the tone of his voice just as much as the words he used. He could have said it in a way that escalated the situation. If not, you're right, he should have been entitled to an explanation. But what were they going to say, "We don't want you to have a record in case we do something wrong?"On the other hand, a record could be for their protection too. Look at all the police cars equipped with camcorders these days around the country. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Feb 23 20:22:27 2008, in response to Re: REEFED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 22 11:27:02 2008. I'm closer to Yonkers so I can hit the shack with Kumar but I know where the live poultry markets are in case |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Feb 23 20:31:04 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Feb 22 17:31:34 2008. To me, asking "what would happen if I refused to shut it off" sounds like a challenge. Once an adversarial relationship starts it's hard for either side to back down. The funny thing is, if he said "I'm really sorry, I just like to take pictures of trains and I'd really like this shot" there is a chance the cops would've let him take the pictures. And if they didn't there's still another time.In my 21 years as a cop, well at least the 16 yrs before making supervisor (sergeant) I probably let half the people I stopped for traffic violations go with a warning. But I very rarely let someone go who started with an attitude. |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Sat Feb 23 20:49:30 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 23 15:14:03 2008. Better on those boards than here. Not to dog anybody, but posts like these do cause some flaming especially when no one really knows the official deal about the photo taking regulations other than the higher ups of any transit agency. Sometimes that piece of paper we carry means jack zhit when crews and police are not properly informed from higher-ups so we really can't blame train crews and police because they happen to be in the dark with us. I've pretty much limited my pic taking for a while but send a nice batch to Dave Pirmann whenever I decide to venture out. Either way, we gotta do what we gotta do. If another railfan photo protest has to be done again, so be it. One way or another, this will be fixed. Also for Nilet, be sure to check out NY 1 News, and 7 On Your Side, not to mention Arnold Diaz's Shame on You. Hook up with any or all of these news media sources and hopefully the MTA will wake up, smell the Bustello and make sure all police and train crews are aware of our rights to take pics of trains. A completely safe and legal hobby.Lord Vader |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 23 21:06:21 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Feb 23 16:26:46 2008. What don't you understand? |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 23 21:20:00 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Lord Vader on Sat Feb 23 20:49:30 2008. If another railfan photo protest has to be done again, so be it.But how will railfans get pissed off enough so that they will finally organize a protest unless these incidents are reported on the boards they read? Besides the MTA (and now the NYCLU) reads this board. One way or another, this will be fixed. It won't be fixed if there won't be a public outcry. And there won't be a public outcry if people don't know what is happening. OTOH keeping quiet will fix it the way the MTA wants... I've pretty much limited my pic taking for a while Exactly what the MTA wants - they post rules saying photography is legal while at the same time making sure that everyone is intimidated into not excercizing that freedom. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 23 21:42:40 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 22 07:09:50 2008. Why wouldn't you? You have all the balls in the world when you give advice to everyone here to engage in that sort of civil disobedience. Why don't you put your money with your mouth is and go out with a known trouble-maker. This way, when he's interdicted by legal authority, you can intercede and tell them where to go. Yeah, I'd really like to see that. |
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Posted by MJF on Sat Feb 23 21:51:45 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 23 21:42:40 2008. I doubt he'd do it. He's a big man behind a keyboard and a monitor but in a real-life situation he'd piss his pants. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Feb 23 21:56:03 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 23 15:14:03 2008. So this problem doesn't exist with New Jersey Transit neither? |
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Re: MTA Contradictory Communication! (PLEASE READ; NYCLU Needs Your Help!) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Feb 23 22:01:58 2008, in response to Re: MTA Contradictory Communication! (PLEASE READ; NYCLU Needs Your Help!), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 22 11:19:57 2008. So, as long as I have a valid/unpunched ticket, I can explore and take as many pics as I want? |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 23 22:04:45 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Feb 23 21:56:03 2008. One of the photographers in my photo club told me today that he was stopped from taking a picture FROM the window of a NJT train (and he is not even a railfan). The problem is really widespread. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 23 22:11:00 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 23 05:08:14 2008. No Amish bath regularly and have good teeth, they do use thick grasses and weeds to brush thier teeth. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 23 22:16:23 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BMTLines on Wed Feb 20 20:58:49 2008. The guys like Nilet and others and the guys who continually go to the American Criminal Liberties Union are going to ultimately screw it up for the peaceful railfan-photographer who knows how to remain civil and avoid the "big-ball" confrontations. Instead of the railroad properties having to defend themselves from the ambiguities of their own policies (that try yo balance everyone's needs), they will simply re-write those policies to ban all photography anywhere on system property. In the long run, it'll be cheaper. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Feb 23 22:28:53 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 23 22:04:45 2008. I just have one more question. At Hoboken, is it fine to walk up to the locomotives and take pictures of them? I tried to do that yesterday but a conductor stopped me and said that I couldn't because I would get run over (I don't know what he meant by that as I would never walk on the tracks, but whatever). |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 23 22:30:59 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 23 22:16:23 2008. Instead of the railroad properties having to defend themselves from the ambiguities of their own policies (that try yo balance everyone's needs), they will simply re-write those policies to ban all photography anywhere on system property. In the long run, it'll be cheaper.Actually that won't be cheaper. There was a huge public outcry the last time the MTA tried to ban photography in the system and this time it would be even worse. New York's attempt to regulate street photography had the effect of organizing the amateur photographers and independent film makers. Should MTA ever try to do that again there will be HUGE protests - and believe me not just railfans. NJT and Boston's MBTA both rescinded photo restrictions rather than fight the ACLU. The problem is that what they say officially to the public is not the way it is being enforced on the ground. To put it in perspective what the MTA is doing is actually a minor piece of the whole problem. Tourists have been harassed for taking pictures of the White House. Silver Springs Maryland tried to enforce a photo ban on one of its streets. A woman was harassed for taking pictures of Christmas decorations in Greenpoint. A photographer was told that taking pictures OF the Time Warner Building is illegal. Another photographer was told "no pictures - this is Bear Stearns block". Collectively all of this MUST STOP! I do not see the individual employee or cop as the problem any more. I see it as an official problem - someone in authority is telling these employees and cops to harass photographers and the only organization that can address that effectively is the ACLU. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 23 22:38:22 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 23 22:30:59 2008. "There was a huge public outcry the last time the MTA tried to ban photography"The NYCT carries 7 million customers per day. How many of then either find photographers annoying or don't give a shit one way or the other? Maybe 6,999,500 ??? if not more. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 23 22:44:53 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 23 22:38:22 2008. Photographers are much more organized now. |
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Re: $6.25 1-year photo pass at GCT: Re: MTA Contradictory Communication |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 01:10:35 2008, in response to Re: $6.25 1-year photo pass at GCT: Re: MTA Contradictory Communication, posted by Nilet on Fri Feb 22 21:44:01 2008. Track 115? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 01:23:09 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Fri Feb 22 23:12:16 2008. I WAS WRONG!Thank you for admitting it. Now do you really believe it, or are just saying it? NOW THAT I'VE DONE THAT WILL YOU PLEASE LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE? I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THIS BULLCRAP ANYMORE! I only responded to posts where you posted incorrect information. Therefore it makes sense that if you stop posting incorrect information, I would stop replying to you saying that you are posting incorrect information. So I don't understand why you even have this question. You brought this upon yourself by posting blatantly false info. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Sun Feb 24 01:26:51 2008, in response to ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Nilet on Wed Feb 20 20:45:31 2008. If this happened to you, not once but twice this makes me wonder if you are on some Homeland Security or FBI watchlist. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 01:27:58 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Fri Feb 22 23:42:54 2008. AND I'M MORE MAN THAN YOU WILL EVER BE!LOL! You're too scared to take photos at that overpass and in GCT. Yeah, you're a real big man... I KNOW WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG! Duh, we can see that. And what you think is wrong. But you can choose to be as ignorant as you want, just don't involve others in it. YOU TERRAPIN DON'T KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S WRONG Yes I do. |
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Re: LARRY PLEASE DO NOT REEF THIS THREAD! Was: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 01:28:53 2008, in response to Re: LARRY PLEASE DO NOT REEF THIS THREAD! Was: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Feb 23 09:57:10 2008. No, you're wrong. And a sore loser. |
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Re: SHUT UP (Re: LARRY PLEASE REEF THIS THREAD! Was: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 01:30:08 2008, in response to Re: SHUT UP (Re: LARRY PLEASE REEF THIS THREAD! Was: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Feb 23 16:37:21 2008. yeah, that was awesome. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 01:30:40 2008, in response to LARRY PLEASE REEF THIS THREAD! Was: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by R142 #6666 on Fri Feb 22 23:51:32 2008. Now you're a sore loser? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Feb 24 01:36:57 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 01:27:58 2008. Terrapin Station man, don't you think that it might be time just move on with this? You already got him screaming and stuff. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 01:37:43 2008, in response to Re: NOT ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 23 06:35:25 2008. Which Nilet does. He posted his last encounter here, and as he described it, the police were in the wrong. The CCRB agreed with him in its final ruling. That's strong evidence that Nilet's account of that incident was honest. I don't see why this would be any different. You have no reason to doubt him, as he has never been shown to post lies in the past. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 01:43:26 2008, in response to Re: NOT ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 23 08:35:44 2008. Yes, I see people walking along empty platforms all the time. It's just a way to travel north-south in the terminal. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Feb 24 01:46:55 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 23 21:42:40 2008. I have to agree, if he really stood for his beliefs about standing up for photographer's rights, he'd join Nilet on a fantrip and see 1st hand how Nilet seems to get the attention of the cops. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Feb 24 01:47:54 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by EastSideRider on Fri Feb 22 22:45:33 2008. Though they aren't as easy to find as a dunkin donuts. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Feb 24 01:49:12 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by R42 4787 on Sun Feb 24 01:26:51 2008. I take it this must be at least 4th if not 6th time this has happened, I think the NYPD has a file on him by now and must be tracking him or something. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 02:11:28 2008, in response to Re: MTA Contradictory Communication! (continued), posted by Dave on Sat Feb 23 14:42:11 2008. Recently ridden isn't the same as waiting to board the train. From a tresspassing perspective, the license to be on the platform in the case of the former extends to leaving the platform, not standing around taking pictures.Says who? IMO it is perfectly reasonable to be able to take photos both on your way TO the train and FROM the train after getting off. That's Amtrak's policy as well. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 02:56:05 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Feb 23 22:28:53 2008. I just have one more question. At Hoboken, is it fine to walk up to the locomotives and take pictures of them?I know of no prohibition. I have gone to Hoboken and done just this. And many other photographers do it as well. Just carry your George Warrington letter with you no matter what. And if some irresponsible employee yells at you, you can always go down the next platform instead, then a little while later come back to the platform you wanted to go down and try again. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 02:56:43 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Lord Vader on Sat Feb 23 13:40:07 2008. I disagree with you that incidents such as these should not be posted here. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 02:57:02 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sat Feb 23 14:23:43 2008. lol |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 03:13:23 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Grand concourse on Sat Feb 23 18:48:49 2008. HuH? Why would I do that? What does it have to do with anything? And for that matter, why don't you do it? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 03:14:00 2008, in response to Re: REEFED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by South Ferry on Sat Feb 23 18:53:33 2008. yeah, these guys aren't the brightest |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 03:15:51 2008, in response to Re: REEFED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Feb 23 20:09:04 2008. No, I did not call him stupid first. You can jump into the middle of these conversations as you please, but don't pretend you understand what is going on. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 03:16:57 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Feb 23 20:16:52 2008. Yes, it seems this cop was up to no good, as he didn't want the incident recorded. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sun Feb 24 03:18:09 2008, in response to Re: REEFED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 03:14:00 2008. b33n out too long in teh MOO-nlight... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 24 03:19:25 2008, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Feb 23 20:31:04 2008. To me, asking "what would happen if I refused to shut it off" sounds like a challenge.Then it's a good thing you're not a cop anymore, since you clearly don't understand how to act properly. It's not a challenge, it's a question. Jeez. A challenge is "I'm going to keep videotaping, do to me as you wish". And that's not what Nilet said. But I very rarely let someone go who started with an attitude. He didn't have an attitude. He asked a question. Try to see the clear difference. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sun Feb 24 03:21:00 2008, in response to Re: REEFED BY A COP— AGAIN!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Feb 23 20:22:27 2008. You can hit a sack of ten faster than me, no less! (me has to cross bridges up here) |
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