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Posted by d_mind on Wed Sep 2 22:21:50 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-Its Truly Over Now., posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Wed Sep 2 22:19:55 2009. 
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 2 22:31:48 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-Its Truly Over Now., posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Wed Sep 2 22:19:55 2009. Thanks for the info. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Sep 2 23:14:42 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R32_3672 on Wed Sep 2 01:46:03 2009. yall know everyting based on dataSCREW GOLD, GO FOR PLATINUM! |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Sep 2 23:18:23 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R160 8818 on Wed Sep 2 01:20:06 2009. Wow, you haven't posted here in a while.Really hasn't been anything worth replying to as of late. |
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Posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Thu Sep 3 01:21:41 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Tue Sep 1 01:44:07 2009. Saw a 4car R40m heading north on the 4 Ave line at 36st in Brooklyn this evening. The irony is that that every roll sign said END. |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Thu Sep 3 02:12:49 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Sep 2 23:18:23 2009. True. One would have thought that you got tired of this place (who could blame you?) and decided to move on... |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Sep 3 10:48:46 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 29 18:49:57 2009. You actually rode the IRT?No idea that actually happenned! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 4 08:01:46 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-Its Truly Over Now., posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Wed Sep 2 22:19:55 2009. Time to cue up Taps... |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 4 08:02:18 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by MainR3664 on Wed Sep 2 13:14:54 2009. Ditto for the R-44s. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Sep 4 08:35:52 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 4 08:02:18 2009. My feeling on this that I would probably miss the R-32's (but as not much for the R-42's) as the last vintage fleet for me personally when they are all removed from the IND Division next year. One reason because it would be one of the last surviving car types that has a front RFW to look out from plus a geninue bottom side roll sign with the letter code and route displayed (i.e. "(C) 8 Avenue/Fulton").This fact I pointed out to a former high school classmate this past March 2009, when we rode together on the R-32's and slanted R-40's, along with the R-44's running, that were operating on the IND "A" line into Washington Heights that day. Oh well, I better get more of those "joyrides" ASAP on the R-32's, especially on the "C", if you know what I mean... -William A. Padron ["(A) Wash Hts/8 Av/Fulton"] |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Sep 4 09:13:38 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by MainR3664 on Wed Sep 2 13:14:54 2009. I don't even consider the R46s worthy of preservation beyond their operating lives (my opinion). I don't mean to say they should be reefed imminently, but when their time IS up, I won't miss 'em. Not a bit.Somehow, the vision of a preserved R-46 with a trolley pole mounted on the roof is a bit much. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 4 12:11:53 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Sep 4 09:13:38 2009. For many. Not me. The R44/46 is still my favorite car type. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 4 13:24:37 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by William A. Padron on Fri Sep 4 08:35:52 2009. It's still not the same without the R-10s. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Sep 4 13:34:16 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 4 13:24:37 2009. Of course not, it isn't the same without the R-10's, no doubt for me at least. It has been twenty years ago since my last regular service trip on them (Friday, September 1, 1989 on the "C"). Hard to believe, the 20th Anniversary of the "Farewell To The R-10" fantrip finale is coming up soon this October 29th...where did the time go by on that one???-William A. Padron ["Wash.Hts.-8th Av.Exp."] |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Sep 5 09:40:41 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by William A. Padron on Fri Sep 4 13:34:16 2009. Too bad they didn't save a few more Thunderbirds. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 5 13:40:52 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Edwards! on Wed Sep 2 02:09:26 2009. You もてぇ梟! |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Sep 5 13:48:22 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Edwards! on Wed Sep 2 01:53:09 2009. The new tech cars are here to stay, whether you like them or not.The MTA accepted this new technology and if they fail, we have a big problem. Most likely they will succeed like all new technology usually does. The only other alternative would have been to accept a low style, low option car, no computers, etc. You know, like the old days. So,that's it. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Sep 5 14:27:45 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R30A on Thu Sep 3 10:48:46 2009. Back in my early days I did. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 5 14:31:05 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Sep 5 14:27:45 2009. Yeah ok, IND man... |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 5 14:34:22 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Sep 5 14:27:45 2009. Yeah ok, IND man...Fort Hamilton Pkwy and Church Avenue on the (F) are the last IND stations to had flourescent lightning installed, which was in 1987. ;) |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 5 14:36:02 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 5 14:34:22 2009. Hahaha! |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 5 14:37:43 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Sep 5 14:27:45 2009. Yeah, just like I rode the IND in my early days... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sat Sep 5 16:07:38 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Sep 4 08:02:18 2009. I agree. And I think they're a lot closer to being done for than the R46s. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sat Sep 5 16:11:59 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 4 12:11:53 2009. You're entitled to your opinion. But I must say that I am surprised- those cars have never and will never provide any service on the Jamaica El... |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Sep 5 16:50:03 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by MainR3664 on Sat Sep 5 16:11:59 2009. 75' cars are not allowed on the Eastern Division due to clearance issues north of Broad St. |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Sat Sep 5 17:17:06 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Sep 5 16:50:03 2009. Are there also clearance issues south of Broad St.? I remember a T/O stating somewhere that 75' cars can't make the curve from the Nassau St. line into the Montague St. tunnel, but IDK if it's true or not or if the source was valid. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 5 17:23:31 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Sep 5 16:50:03 2009. Then why banned from (L)? |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sat Sep 5 17:37:33 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 5 17:23:31 2009. I think that some of the curves on this line are also too sharp for 75' cars. I doubt that the TA ever considered testing the clearances on this line since until recent years the traffic on this line did not show any need for cars longer than 60'. That is why the R143's were ordered (although some R160's also run on this line). |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Sep 5 20:20:23 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 5 17:23:31 2009. But they have to get to ENY to access the L line right?It's immaterial anyway as only R143 and R160's are allowed to run there consisting of 480' trains to fit in the stations. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Sep 5 20:21:27 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R160 8818 on Sat Sep 5 17:17:06 2009. No, north of Broad St. and beyond due to new clearance profiles necessitated by the re-allignment and new signals and associated hardware installed in recent years. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Sep 7 17:01:56 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Sep 5 16:50:03 2009. Thanks Bill. I knew that- I was just teasing Chris. He he doesn't seem to have taken the bait, LOL. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Sep 7 17:22:47 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 5 17:23:31 2009. Well, if they were allowed on the L wouldn't they have to be 6-car trains?Otherwise why not allow the L to be 10-car R143/160 trains? |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Sep 7 21:15:54 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Sep 5 20:20:23 2009. If I recall, one clearance problem is that the curve entering Marcy Av is too sharp for 2 trains of 75 ft cars to pass each other at that point. The other one has to do with the curves in ENY Yd which cannot accept a 75 ft car. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Sep 7 21:19:23 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 5 14:34:22 2009. I wonder if the compact fluorescent "bulbs" that exist today had existed back in the earlier years, would the TA have merely installed them in the existing light sockets rather than go to the expense of installing entirely new fixtures. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 21:21:21 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by randyo on Mon Sep 7 21:15:54 2009. A TSS once told me that there were additional fears of no clearance areas on end excess' when new signals, relay boxes and the like were put in when the n/b J/M/Z was re-alligned. They had no intentions of testing it out with a 75' car. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Sep 7 21:32:49 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 21:21:21 2009. Probably because by the time the new signals were installed and the tracks realigned, the TA felt it would be unnecessary to make allowances for 75 ft cars that would not be used there anyhow. I also recall seeing an interview with Gene Sansone of NYCT New Car Engineering, I think on Transit Transit, when the R-143s were being ordered in which he said that the MTA was returning to 60 ft cars because passengers like to be able to walk from car to car which cannot be done on 75 ft cars. Apparently at that time, the MTA had abandoned plans to order any more 75 ft equipment. The reason for the scuttlebutt about the R-179s (or whatever number) being 75 ft is that with the new NYCT regulations prohibiting passage between cars, there is no longer a need to have cars with unlocked end doors. It seems almost the height of idiocy for the MTA to design rolling stock specifically to make it easier for passengers to pass between cars and then pass a regulation prohibiting the very act that the cars were designed to facilitate. |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Mon Sep 7 22:46:37 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by randyo on Mon Sep 7 21:19:23 2009. I've sometimes wondered about that myself. I think it might have still been a bit dim on platforms, although they may have worked well in some mezzanines which remained incandescent for a longer period of time. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 8 12:18:53 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by MainR3664 on Mon Sep 7 17:01:56 2009. What bait? Anyone, or EVERYone should know why the R44/46 never ran on the J. |
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