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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Aug 29 11:09:13 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R32_3672 on Sat Aug 29 03:22:20 2009. You still have the R62As on the 7 line with the RFW. It may be just on the north end of the train but it's better than nothing. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 29 11:14:59 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by randyo on Sat Aug 29 02:10:12 2009. "This is your last chance, ever" is a powerful motivation. These cars defined the system as I knew it, now with the bland robot cars the system holds little interest for me. The R44's and the 75' cars are next. Once they go, it's over. The subway becomes nothing to me but a bus on rails, or (more likely) "the office". I wonder if this is how old timers felt in the 60's and 70's, when the pre-war cars were retired. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Aug 29 11:33:22 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Dan on Fri Aug 28 13:19:52 2009. The 1st "new equipment" that I rode were the R142As on the 6 for the A Division and the R143s on the M for the B Division.As far as the R40Ms, I did see 4506-4507 with 4518-4519 on the garbage train at Queens Plaza yesterday headed towards 71 Ave. A minute later, R160s 9543-9552 showed up testing on the E headed towards Manhattan. My last rides on the R40M were back on 8-18-09 where I rode 4496 on the R and 4510 on the V. Both cars were ICE cold. Here are a few recent pics:    BONUS pic:  Enjoy!!! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Aug 29 12:59:36 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Aug 29 11:33:22 2009. like them all..but the last pic is a mystery..where did you take it? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Aug 29 13:01:42 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Edwards! on Sat Aug 29 12:59:36 2009. Looks like Lexington Ave and 63rd Street to me... |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 29 13:02:30 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40M's...Last Train Today, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Aug 28 18:17:01 2009. How the hell did that happen? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Aug 29 13:10:18 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Railman718 on Sat Aug 29 13:01:42 2009. couldn't be..look at the platform...and the ceiling..[what you could SEE of the ceiling]...It doesnt look like it at all..but I could be mistaken. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Aug 29 13:23:16 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Railman718 on Sat Aug 29 13:01:42 2009. Nope...try again. 1 more guess. :) |
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Posted by seabeachexpress on Sat Aug 29 13:25:45 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Dan on Fri Aug 28 13:19:52 2009. My first "new cars" were R27's on the QT/QB from 36 ave in 1960. I remember the Olive-Green paint and the Destination signs that lit up green. |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Aug 29 13:28:02 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Edwards! on Sat Aug 29 12:59:36 2009. Looks like Canal to me. |
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Posted by joe c on Sat Aug 29 14:27:32 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R30A on Sat Aug 29 13:28:02 2009. That's same thing i was thinking,i remember some features of thestation and the flooring is one of them. til next time |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Aug 29 14:58:20 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Aug 28 18:08:33 2009. R38s were being delivered for my birthday although the first cars I can recall riding with my father were beat up old R1-9s on the CC and D Express. I actually didn't ride any R38s until I started middle school when they appeared on the CC as well growing up in Kingsbridge. I still remember the R32s with blue ceiling fans, mixed lighting of ad-car and center lighting and the policeman sticker warning of riding between cars. My dad took a ride once a Sunday to go to W4 Street to Sam Goody, the 69 cent store followed by the puppet matanee at Nathans or trip to orange Juilias. I never experienced a cold A/C on an R42 until I became a conductor and most of them had dark cars. One of my favorite operating cars, the R38. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Aug 29 14:59:38 2009, in response to Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 27 19:44:03 2009. I saw a train of what seemed to be mostly R40Ms on the V at 71st Avenue from my E train to JFK Airport on Thursday, it was the only one I saw in my brief few hours in New York on Thursday. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Aug 29 15:28:42 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 29 11:14:59 2009. The subway becomes nothing to me but a bus on rails, or (more likely) "the office".Sorry you don't like the newer cars. I'm afraid you are stuck with them. |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Sat Aug 29 15:32:51 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Aug 29 13:23:16 2009. Wild guess. Delancey? |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Aug 29 15:36:41 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 29 11:14:59 2009. Could be. It seems that each succeeding generation of railcars (and buses) seems to lack the character of the preceding ones or at least it's perceived that way. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 29 15:38:18 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R42 4787 on Thu Aug 27 20:11:42 2009. I did my schoolcar in the winter, so never got a chance to try their A/C. The 42's were pretty crispy though. :) |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Aug 29 15:38:51 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R32_3672 on Sat Aug 29 03:22:20 2009. Think of what railfanning must be like in DC, Baltimore San Francisco and LA where for the entire history of those systems there was only one basic type and design of railcar. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 29 15:44:09 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Dan on Fri Aug 28 13:19:52 2009. On the B division side, it was the R10's and 32's ... they were new compared to the arnines. :)But as I was growing up, the LoV's were being plucked quickly off the AyeArTee and so the proper answer I s'pose would be R17's and R21's. As much as air conditioning is a requirement these days, we didn't have it back then and I still think of it as a treat. Heh. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Aug 29 15:50:16 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by randyo on Sat Aug 29 02:10:12 2009. I didn't do that. When they were replacing the R10s with the R30s, I avoided them like the plague until I couldn't wait no more which was when they were retiring the last 2 trainsets. One dispatcher who worked RPK saved them for putins for crews he knew wanted them so either I got a trip uptown running one or or I knew when to ride them if I didn't want to wait an hour. There is never a hurry to get on a new train, one day that will be all thats running. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Aug 29 16:38:39 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40M's...Last Train Today, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 29 13:02:30 2009. 600 volts got into the 32 volt battery line. The Am-meter got too much voltage and lit up. The sealed beams got a 600 volt too, they were toasted.Don't ask why, the cars were in such bad shape then......... |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 29 16:43:44 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40M's...Last Train Today, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Aug 29 16:38:39 2009. Oh man, glad you were OK. Must have been a hell of a light show! Were you operating when it happened? Or stopped at a station? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 29 16:50:02 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40M's...Last Train Today, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Aug 29 16:38:39 2009. Ah yes ... the old relay core short undercar ... has happened more often than you might think. :( |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Aug 29 17:00:44 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40M's...Last Train Today, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 29 16:50:02 2009. Those ammeters are 600 Volts to begin with since they tap the #1 truck. I wonder why one of those would explode unless the meter was bathed in a few inspection cycles of steel dust. I saw a few of them missing their glass covers |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Sat Aug 29 17:07:42 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R32_3672 on Sat Aug 29 03:22:20 2009. Railfanning won't be dead. There are many, many more aspects to railfanning than the window. |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Sat Aug 29 17:08:53 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by JBar387 on Sat Aug 29 04:21:42 2009. Yesterday, I was waiting at Forest Hills for an hour and I noticed that over half of the V trains yesterday were R46s. Only a few R42s out yesterday. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Aug 29 17:12:07 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40M's...Last Train Today, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 29 16:43:44 2009. Just got on a s/b D at Bedford Park. Took a rolling test, felt the dead motor in operating car 4484. Reset motor circuit breakers manually, then.........I was OK, just shook up. Was on my last half on a midnight job, that woke me up. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Aug 29 17:14:59 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R160 8818 on Sat Aug 29 17:08:53 2009. R42's are also used on the R. There are probably around 15 "old" trains combined on both lines. Hoepfully the equivalent of 1 will be retired per week. The old stuff is really running bad. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 29 17:15:52 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40M's...Last Train Today, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Aug 29 17:00:44 2009. Actually, the ammeters have a very small voltage across them since they're connected across a shunt down below on the ground side of the load. I'll bet the 600 volts came up the lamp leads ... |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Aug 29 17:28:25 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Aug 29 11:09:13 2009. For now at least.I wonder if after the swap w/the mainline's R142/A's, will they put those R62A's in sets [and make the ends full width cabs] or leave them as singles? |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 29 17:38:51 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40M's...Last Train Today, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Aug 29 17:12:07 2009. Whoa! Thank god you are alright, something like that would kill someone. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 29 18:49:57 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Dan on Fri Aug 28 13:19:52 2009. What was the first "new" equipment you ever rode?The R62, in 1985. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Aug 29 21:04:31 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Dan on Fri Aug 28 13:19:52 2009. Shiny new R-32s on July 21, 1965. That was my first subway ride ever. The old timers had to wait until 1967. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Aug 29 21:18:50 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Dan on Fri Aug 28 13:19:52 2009. R-27sROAR |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sat Aug 29 21:52:21 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R160 8818 on Sat Aug 29 17:07:42 2009. False. You don't seem to understand the TRUE meaning of railfanning. Oh wait...you don't because all you think of is R160's. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sat Aug 29 21:55:11 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri Aug 28 19:21:53 2009. The 42's are next in line to be phased out. |
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Posted by joe c on Sat Aug 29 23:17:08 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Dan on Fri Aug 28 13:19:52 2009. R143's for me,i remember one time after school waiting for the firstR143 doing it's 30 day revenue run at B'way Junction.when i got on,it still had that new train smell and the exact same black flooring that the R32 and R42 cars have. I do also remember seeing an R142 set testing on the Dyre Av line. til next time |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Sat Aug 29 23:23:10 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by JBar387 on Sat Aug 29 04:21:42 2009. So did I, from 2nd Avenue to FH. It was around 3:00. It took an unexpected detour up 8th Avenue and hit 45MPH in the 53rd Street Tube. Did you notice the crank-activated roll signs in 3932?Earlier that afternoon we did get an R42 from FH to 2nd Avenue and saw several others passing the other way. This (Saturday) afternoon, I saw a 32 on the R, which is quite the rarity on the weekend. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Sat Aug 29 23:32:40 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Howard Fein on Sat Aug 29 23:23:10 2009. Yeah and I wanted to get a pic of it but a young lady was sitting in front of it all the way to Forest Hills! |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Aug 29 23:33:08 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Dan on Fri Aug 28 13:19:52 2009. It was an R-160B in limited service on the (N). |
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Posted by JBar387 on Sat Aug 29 23:38:28 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Dan on Fri Aug 28 13:19:52 2009. For me it was the R-68's when they first rolled on the line. Evenhough the R-46 has been a main stay on my line, I was a kid when the 46 was new. So they were already road broken in already! |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sun Aug 30 00:36:24 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R160 8818 on Sat Aug 29 15:32:51 2009. Close but no cigar. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sun Aug 30 00:38:01 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R160 8818 on Sat Aug 29 15:32:51 2009. The location of this photo was at Canal Street on the A Line. It was taken on a weekend where F trains were rerouted over to the A Line from West 4 Street to Jay St. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 02:12:23 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by 33rd Street on Sat Aug 29 21:52:21 2009. Well London Transport doesn't even have what passes for a RFW on the NTTs and yet there is an active railfan base in England. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sun Aug 30 08:14:38 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by 33rd Street on Sat Aug 29 21:55:11 2009. Not a moment too soon. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 30 09:28:36 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 02:12:23 2009. pwn3d |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 30 18:26:43 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sun Aug 30 00:38:01 2009. I wonder if anyone filmed the switchover south of W. 4th. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 30 18:29:18 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R42 4787 on Thu Aug 27 20:11:42 2009. The '69 Mets were cool, too.:) So was Woodstock (no, I wasn't there, but I do remember that weekend). |
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Posted by 9 local on Sun Aug 30 19:58:24 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Fri Aug 28 18:44:55 2009. Let's list 'em off:R38: C March 18, 2009 R40: A June 12, 2009 (Slant) V August 28, 2009 (Modified) Next up: R32 either on the A or C towards December or January of 2010, then the end of SMEEs with the R42s on the J or Z in May or June of 2010. This is just speculation on my part. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 30 20:20:11 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by 9 local on Sun Aug 30 19:58:24 2009. Very much speculation. |
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