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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Aug 30 21:27:29 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by randyo on Sat Aug 29 15:38:51 2009. We've been spoiled for all these years! |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sun Aug 30 21:31:29 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R32_3672 on Sat Aug 29 03:22:20 2009. True. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Aug 30 22:06:54 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by murray1575 on Sun Aug 30 08:14:38 2009. Don't listen to him..he doesn't know for sure..just pure speculation on his part. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Aug 30 22:12:32 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Aug 29 11:09:13 2009. There are occasionally trains with 11 singles. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sun Aug 30 23:19:03 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by Edwards! on Sun Aug 30 22:06:54 2009. Pure speculation my ass. Have you seen how run down the remaining R42's look? They need to be phased out ASAP. |
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Posted by R32_3672 on Mon Aug 31 00:40:00 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Aug 30 22:12:32 2009. nah most likely the R42s will go next then finaly the R32s. and my 1st subway car ride was 3 with my moms on a R44 (A) in 1993and then the R110B on the (A)in 96 and then a R38 (C). |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 31 08:20:23 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Aug 30 22:12:32 2009. Once in a while we get lucky.:) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 31 08:22:35 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 02:12:23 2009. Montreal's Metro trains have never had a RFW and most likely never will.OTOH in Chicago older L cars even had a railfan seat! |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 31 08:25:31 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by 33rd Street on Sun Aug 30 23:19:03 2009. Dude, the 32s are next.. its been posted time and time again that the 42s in the eastern Div will be the last 60FT SMEE to run in revenue service. |
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Posted by terrapin station on Mon Aug 31 08:54:25 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 31 08:25:31 2009. lol, two clueless arguing... |
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Posted by joe c on Mon Aug 31 09:29:54 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R32_3672 on Mon Aug 31 00:40:00 2009. "most likely the R42s will go next"I don't know about that.last i heard,there were only 40 R32's left at Jamaica.so the R32's there are likely next to go. til next time |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 31 10:53:45 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R160 8818 on Sat Aug 29 17:07:42 2009. It's more than the window. Back in the day an R train being diverted down the F line would be a rare treat, now with all cars looking alike, who will care? |
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Posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Tue Sep 1 01:44:07 2009, in response to Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 27 19:44:03 2009. Is the "R41" going to be preserved. It has to be!!! |
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Posted by R32_3672 on Tue Sep 1 05:34:09 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Tue Sep 1 01:44:07 2009. I swear if they get rid of the R32 now that would be the most stupid thing because they are the most Reliable equipment current 2 date but if the R42s last longer imma be Really anoyed,imo. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 1 05:42:11 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R32_3672 on Tue Sep 1 05:34:09 2009. But yeah, throughout the entire string of old cars, they have to satisfy accountants and bureaucrats in distant financial centers and government who only know that R32 is older than R68 and therefore, first in, first out or there's a lot of 'splaining to do. I'm actually surprised that the teeyay managed to ditch the R40 wrecks before all the 32's were scrapped ...That said, I got to run 32's before they got turned into cyclops, and they were pretty good cars many years ago. They're not what they used to be though even if the carbodies haven't rotted away like what came later. Sadly, it's time for them to go despite the accountants ... :( |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Sep 1 05:45:30 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 1 05:42:11 2009. I also like the 32's but I gotta be realistic to see that their writing is on the wall. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 1 06:02:25 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by arnine on Tue Sep 1 05:45:30 2009. They were really GREAT cars to operate (aside from the occasional "stuck cam") before they got their bulkheads and cabs destroyed by all the other "bling" installed ... they were peppy, they braked firmly, and weren't air conditioned. They were nice cars. That they lasted as long as they did, compared to their cousins, is a testimony to BUDD ...But lately, they're showing their age. :( |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 1 07:50:42 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 1 06:02:25 2009. I liked them right from the start. Those blue doors along with the shiny stainless steel were eye openers. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 1 07:58:22 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's-The End., posted by terrapin station on Mon Aug 31 08:54:25 2009. The Argument Clinic. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 1 08:53:55 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 1 07:50:42 2009. They were VERY nice before the empty-yay screwed with them. :( |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Sep 1 10:08:32 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 1 06:02:25 2009. Yes they are. But, I wish we can keep them but it is time to go. Maybe another agency can use them? Although, very doubtful. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Sep 1 10:09:44 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 1 08:53:55 2009. Exactly, I do not really remember the R32's too much b4 the MTA messed up the design, but seen pics and really liked the stylings better than they are now although the a/c is better. Great cars nonetheless. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 1 13:26:25 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 1 08:53:55 2009. The good old days. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 1 13:28:14 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by arnine on Tue Sep 1 10:08:32 2009. Subway cars are essentially custom built. About the only instance I can think of where cars from one city wound up elsewhere was the 6000-series cars that went from Chicago to Philadelphia, and then they ran on one of the non-subway lines. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 1 13:30:09 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R32_3672 on Tue Sep 1 05:34:09 2009. Slaughtering the Triplexes was even dumber. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 1 14:15:38 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 1 05:42:11 2009. If you recall, when the BMT prewar cars were scrapped, the newest ones went first: the Multis followed by the D types followed by the oldest class, the ABs. The TA didn't even attempt rebuilding the Multis or Ds like it did the ABs. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Sep 1 14:17:10 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 1 13:28:14 2009. True |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 1 14:28:14 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 1 13:28:14 2009. While technically not from another "city" per se, the original SIRT cars were sold to the NYCTA for BMT service. Also, the Miami rapid transit cars are identical and I believe from the same order as the Baltimore rapid transit cars. If the cars meet the clearances of another system, then they could conceivably be used there. The problem is that most other transit systems have some form of either outright ATO or a CBTC like form of cab signaling which would probably be difficult to easily retrofit to any of NYCT's non new tech trains. Also most of the other systems that could accommodate the R-32s are OPTO and due to the door placement on the R-32s, OPTO could not easily be done on the R-32s unless it is done with CCTV like Philly's M-F cars. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Sep 1 15:34:12 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by randyo on Tue Sep 1 14:28:14 2009. Also, the Miami cars have the same dimensions (and interior layout) as the LACMTA Red/Purple line cars (in fact, 4 of the Miami cars were borrowed by then-SCRTD for testing when the Breda cars were delayed in delivery. I don't know if the Miami cars had to have changes in their signalling system to run on the Red Line tracks (it's possible that all the signalling hadn't yet been installed anyway). The Miami cars did not run in revenue service in L.A. For those interested, the cars were 126/127 (one of 2 mismatched pairs at Miami Metrorail) and 141/142. |
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Posted by Dan on Tue Sep 1 15:49:58 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 1 13:30:09 2009. There was never any interest or money to save at least some of each scrapped fleet of cars. Where would they be kept, how would they be maintained, etc. At least in the post Transit Museum era an effort seems to be made to save something for future railfans to enjoy.Will at least two cars from all future scrapped fleets be saved?? I'll really feel old when the R46s are in the museum fleet. |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Tue Sep 1 15:54:46 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R32_3672 on Tue Sep 1 05:34:09 2009. The R32s are NOT the most reliable equipment in the system, going by the MDBF numbers on www.nycsubway.org (as of 2007). |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Sep 1 15:55:04 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by arnine on Tue Sep 1 10:08:32 2009. Yes they are. But, I wish we can keep them but it is time to go. Maybe another agency can use them?LAMATA? :) |
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Posted by R32_3672 on Tue Sep 1 20:51:46 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R160 8818 on Tue Sep 1 15:54:46 2009. what are u talkin about yes they are. I Refuse to belive that they are not and R160s are not the most reliable never will I acept the 160s. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Tue Sep 1 21:34:41 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R160 8818 on Tue Sep 1 15:54:46 2009. Oh really? The R32's would kick those one-shittys' ass anyday of the week.While you're at it, go and foam over one-shittys you fake ass "railfan." |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue Sep 1 22:10:39 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by 33rd Street on Tue Sep 1 21:34:41 2009. lol @ the thought of an two subway cars fighting one another. |
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Posted by d_mind on Tue Sep 1 22:11:37 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue Sep 1 22:10:39 2009. True foam. |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Tue Sep 1 22:55:13 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R32_3672 on Tue Sep 1 20:51:46 2009. You have no proof. You're going by your opinion and allowing it to take over you, thinking that R32's have a lower breakdown rate and a higher MDBF than cars such as the R143 and R68. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Tue Sep 1 23:02:43 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue Sep 1 22:10:39 2009. The R32 would win in what would be an all out squash. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Tue Sep 1 23:06:12 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R160 8818 on Tue Sep 1 22:55:13 2009. Ah, shut the fuck up already. You seem like the 160's are the best R type ever made. The 160's would be something the TA would regret ordering after ten years.That shows that you don't know shit about trains as well as buses. I bet you got into being a "railfan" because of the R160's. If you are going to deny that fact, it shows to me and the rest of the world that you are a scumbag. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Tue Sep 1 23:40:05 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R160 8818 on Tue Sep 1 22:55:13 2009. Okay I swear I'm getting tired of this and that some of y'all have issues that need to be worked out of this board, because it makes no damn sense that everytime you say something you get flamed.Going by the MDBF as of 12/2007 on NYCSubway R32 112,550 R40 121,793 R42 111,890 R44 106,743 R46 119,197 R68 220,388 R68A 273,954 R143 263,431 R160 I don't see the MDBF there but if you can find it post it What confuses the hell out of me is what made the 2 "true railfans" think you were talking about R160s when not once did you mention them. Based off that information you are right. the R32 had a horrible MDBF, the R40s were even better. There is only a 660 mile difference between the R32s and R42s. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Tue Sep 1 23:42:48 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by R32_3672 on Tue Sep 1 20:51:46 2009. Don't accept the R160s, I'm sure no one cares about your hatred for them. But at some point you will have to suck it up and ride them unless you plan to avoid most of the B division lines for the next 30-45 years. |
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Posted by d_mind on Tue Sep 1 23:45:58 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Tue Sep 1 23:42:48 2009. Uh-oh, now you've opened the can of worms on how the R160s wont last the next 30-45 years and that certain people on this board wont lose their virginity in that same timeframe. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Tue Sep 1 23:48:03 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Tue Sep 1 23:42:48 2009. Oh great, another R160 Foamer. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Sep 2 00:00:37 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by 33rd Street on Tue Sep 1 23:48:03 2009. Okay honestly shut the hell up. I'm not an R160 foamer, I simply stating real facts. My favorite B-Div cars will always be those beat up Slants and the R32s (despite the fact that lack of A/C made my life hell on numerous occasions). While I do appreciate the fact that E is 100% R160, I somewhat miss the diversity that was once there (used to make for great MTA horror stories).Are you the school bully or something? You jump on him everytime he posts and R160s aren't even being mentioned. Get a life and grow the hell up. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Sep 2 00:10:57 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Sep 2 00:00:37 2009. Are you the school bully or something?No. Not at all. Me, get a life? I already have a life. Also, you don't state facts. You just spread all this R160 propaganda. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Sep 2 00:25:09 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by 33rd Street on Wed Sep 2 00:10:57 2009. You must not be reading the right post because not once did I spread any propaganda, you can look back and try and find a quote but I assure you, you will fail miserably. I directly used a credible reference in my post as for you the same can't be said. You are the one foaming all over the place. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Sep 2 00:27:01 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Sep 2 00:25:09 2009. I don't foam. I just state what's obvious to the entire world. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Sep 2 00:31:05 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by 33rd Street on Wed Sep 2 00:27:01 2009. Really? So why isn't anyone else supporting what your saying? |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Wed Sep 2 00:33:07 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Sep 2 00:31:05 2009. Because he is a fucking retarded moron, that's why. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Sep 2 00:33:36 2009, in response to Re: Swan Song For the R40m's..., posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Sep 2 00:31:05 2009. I don't need people to show me support. Meanwhile, go out and show support for those 160 foamers. That are really counting on you. |
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