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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:14:52 2007, in response to Re: Set Your VCR, posted by American Pig on Tue Feb 13 18:08:13 2007. YEah, I have seen photos of 69th Street and Grand Ave in the location of the LIE (around where the Maspeth Savings Bank is, and the Maspeth Theater building), and it looks like any other normal block of the shopping area of Grand Ave. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:17:05 2007, in response to Re: Set Your VCR, posted by American Pig on Tue Feb 13 18:04:58 2007. Is the Cross Brooklyn Subway the AKA "Bushwick Expressway, I-78"? |
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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:24:12 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by American Pig on Tue Feb 13 18:24:43 2007. Ich been ein Berliner!!! |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:25:11 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by American Pig on Tue Feb 13 18:20:13 2007. Hahaha, I first took it the "wrong" way for a second, but then remembered what you were responding to, haha. |
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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:28:11 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 13 16:38:26 2007. And also went around the estates he could not go through (the bend in the Northern State).That wasn't his idea. Old Westbury had a very well organized opposition, and were able to make the road turn around their community, and actually were one of the few to beat out Robert Moses. Robert Moses had the last laugh with Old Westbury in the end too, as when it came time for the Long Island Expressway, he got it to cut through that time..... Somewhere else in this thread, I also wrote about the story of the streetlights there, which Old Westbury didn't cave to until the recent HOV lane addition. |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 13 19:28:17 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:25:11 2007. Nah, I didn't. I give American Pig the benefit of a doubt that he wouldn't act like others here do. |
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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Feb 13 19:28:26 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:24:12 2007. I am a jelly donut. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 13 19:33:03 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Feb 11 13:30:38 2007. I wonder if he could keep this kid off for a few days to cool off. |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Feb 13 19:34:56 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 13 19:28:17 2007. So did I, lol. |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Feb 13 19:35:09 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by American Pig on Tue Feb 13 18:19:25 2007. Link? |
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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:40:58 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 13 16:30:15 2007. The Southern State also had a widening project, similar to the Northern State. At the beginning of most of the parkways, you have to picture the Bethpage Parkway for anyone that knows what it looked like. Eventually, most of them wound up later looking somewhat like the Wantagh Parkway.When it was time to widen the Southern Parkway from it's four lane highway, what they actually did is build a parallel parkway right next to the original Southern State. All the bridges had MIRROR images of themselves built next to the original. I am not sure which side is original, eastbound or west bound, but with EACH "double" bridge, one side is the original, that used to originally have traffic going both ways under it, until the doubling made it one direction. If you look very very closely at some of the Southern State bridges, you can actually tell which is the original, some of them have the original side, ever so slightly more intricate than the later double built next to it. In some locations, the original bridge was a smaller "original" double bridge", that only two lanes would fit under in each direction. I think it's somewhere around Babylon (not sure of the exact location), where the westbound side breaks apart, forms four lanes, two going under a two lane bridge, and two going another two lane bridge. In that case, they just added a three lane bridge next to the original double bridge for the eastbound side. In the case of the Northern State three laning about 15 years ago up from the Meadowbrook to the Wantagh Parkway, in that case, I guess they didn't want to destroy the trees on one side add a parallel parkway for the opposite side to allow for a six lane road with the original bridges, they instead chose to just add a lane in each dirrection, but that also meant that each bridge had to be completely torn down and rebuilt. They carefully removed all the decorative signature Robert Moses stones, stored them, and rebuilt the bridges with the same decorative stone encasings. They also obviously needed new stone, so they had new stone mined in the same place Robert Moses got the stone from, and came up with a pretty nice modern version of Robert Moses' old bridges in that rebuild and widening project. |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 13 19:46:27 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Feb 13 19:35:09 2007. View flat? |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:47:03 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Feb 13 19:35:09 2007. I read him saying that somewhere in this monster thread, but am not searching all these posts. It's in this "high school" section though. |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Feb 13 19:58:08 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 13 19:46:27 2007. Me idiot. |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 13 20:25:33 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Feb 13 19:58:08 2007. No.YOU ARE A COLLEGE STUDENT! |
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Re: Set Your VCR |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 14 00:15:29 2007, in response to Re: Set Your VCR, posted by American Pig on Tue Feb 13 18:04:58 2007. Not true..he definetly wanted to extend the Prospect Expressway to the Belt Parkway..it was part of one of his highly suggested "road plans"... |
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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 00:40:26 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 13 14:05:01 2007. I believe that was rejected. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 00:47:40 2007, in response to Re: Set Your VCR, posted by American Pig on Tue Feb 13 18:04:58 2007. "And how would this be any better?" I never meant to imply that it would have been better. "The only extension of the Prospect that Moses proposed was an extension to the Cross Brooklyn Expressway at Avenue I, had that been built." So I was wrong about it going to the Belt. But I knew he didn't plan that it should dead end at Church Avenue. It was supposed to connect with another highway. And actually that might have not been such a bad idea, because Ocean Parkway is terribly congested north of Avenue H during rush hours. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 00:50:26 2007, in response to Re: Set Your VCR, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:17:05 2007. Subway? Don't you mean expressway? They were two separate roads. I'm not sure what the eastern terminus of the Cross Brooklyn would have been or if it would have connected with the Bushwick, but I believe all of this information is available at NYCRoads.com. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 00:57:07 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:40:58 2007. Didn't they also raise the bridges when they rebuilt them and if that is true, it supports my claim that buses that fit under them today might not have fit when the roads were first built. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Feb 14 06:01:19 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:40:58 2007. None of the other parkways were like the Bethpage Pkway. As far as I know they were all always divided. I remember when the Grand Central was widened from the Nassau line to the Interborough in the early 70's. (now J. Robinson) It was just like the Interborough. The part by the Cross Island was just a clover leaf without the service roads by Alley Pond that it has now. The widening of the Northern State from the Nassau line to the Old Westbury curve came shortly later. |
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Posted by MATHA531 on Wed Feb 14 07:05:14 2007, in response to A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 9 14:16:58 2007. Well at least in the myriad of responses here, nobody has repeated the myth being perpetrated by certain elements of the Los Angeles National League Baseball team that it was RM who forced poor Walter O'Malley to move the franchise from Brooklyn.In this one instant, all RM was doing was enforcing a NY State law that prohibited the imposition of eminent domain to take property from one private company (the Penssylvania Railroad Company which at the time owned the Long Island Rail Road) to line the pockets of another private enterprise (the fat slob half human Walter O'Malley). It is interesting to note that in the Carol book, over 1,000 pages, there is exactly one mention of the situation with the baseball team. But as some in the renegade left coast baseball organization such as Vin Scully and Tommy Lasorda try to get O'Malley elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame, this myth that it was Robert Moses who was primary responsible for the theft of the franchise has begun to be accepted by more and more who were nogt around when this occurred. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 08:04:58 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by MATHA531 on Wed Feb 14 07:05:14 2007. The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Re: Set Your VCR |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 08:05:57 2007, in response to Re: Set Your VCR, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 00:50:26 2007. haha, yeah, I meant expressway, not subway. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 08:07:56 2007, in response to Re: Set Your VCR, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 00:47:40 2007. Not that I would have wanted to see anything slam through Bushwick, however, I alwasy found it crazy that the Interboro (JR Parkway) just drops you off on Bushwick Ave and that's the end of it... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 08:09:56 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 00:57:07 2007. I don't believe so on the Southern, they are just mirror images of the originals. They may have on the Northern, I have no idea of the sizes of the new bridges. Not that it's really relevant, as the brand new bridges are only between the Wantagh and the Medowbrook, and I have seen those small school buses on many of the other parkways in other sections. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 08:12:19 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Feb 14 06:01:19 2007. I believe I have seen photos of the SOuthern originally, and it was juist a little undivided road going under the bridges, but I can't be 100% sure. I would have to find that photo, and have no idea where it was. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 14 09:01:15 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 13 16:30:15 2007. Overpasses were rebuilt as part of the Northern Parkway widening to 3 lines a few years ago between the Meadowbrook and the Wantagh.Were they raised? Can trucks fit on the Northern now? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 14 09:08:39 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Feb 14 06:01:19 2007. None of the other parkways were like the Bethpage Pkway. As far as I know they were all always divided. I remember when the Grand Central was widened from the Nassau line to the Interborough in the early 70's. (now J. Robinson) It was just like the Interborough.The Grand Central between Kew Gardens and Glen Oaks was built without a center median. |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Feb 14 13:45:24 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by BMTLines on Sun Feb 11 13:48:40 2007. Worked for Moses himself!!Really? That would make you - uh, over 5700 years old! What's your secret? :) --Mark |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 14:27:02 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 14 09:01:15 2007. No, won't fit. And it's only from between the Meadowbrook and the Wantagh that they were rebuilt. Since the original Northern's bridges could only hold four lanes, and since they didn't expand the parkway like they did on the Southern by building a parallel parkway next to the original and building mirror image bridges to make them double bridges, they had to tear down the originals, and rebuild them to allow for 6 lanes. They are now "double bridges". Perhaps slightly higher than the original, but not much if they are. And like I said in the other post, they reused the Robert Moses stones from the originals to rebuild the new ones. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 15:03:37 2007, in response to Re: Set Your VCR, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 08:07:56 2007. It is crazy that the Interboro ends nowhere. I didn't think that it was one of Moses' creations but I guess it was because it was built in 1933, designed like his other parkways. Connecting it with the Bushwick Expressway wouldn't have made any sense. Looks like it was supposed to connect with the Cross Brooklyn.Also, it was first proposed in 1901, (according to NYCRoads,com) but nothing happened until Moses got involved. (Further proof that many of the roads he built would never have been built without him.) I also found the following on NYCRoads. com "EXTENSION THROUGH SOUTHERN BROOKLYN: In 1963, Moses proposed a 3.4-mile-long southern extension of the Interborough Parkway through southeast Brooklyn. The $30 million extension, which was to be routed through the East New York, New Lots and Starrett City communities, was scheduled for completion in 1976. Most likely, a reconstructed Pennsylvania Avenue was to serve as the service roads for the parkway. However, as Moses lost his power in the late 1960's, the parkway extension was shelved. The route of the extended Jackie Robinson Parkway was to be about one-half mile east of the L subway (Canarsie BMT) corridor, which was to serve as the route of another proposed highway, the Queens-Interboro Expressway (unbuilt I-695)." |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 15:07:31 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Feb 14 13:45:24 2007. If you had contact with him directly, he either loved you or hated you. A friend of mine also knew two people who worked for Moses and he liked both of them and amply rewarded them. One of them was his aunt who was one of his secretaries. When she died, my friend found an autographed picture of her with Richard Nixon in her possessions. Shows what Moses could do if he liked you. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 15:12:07 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 08:12:19 2007. There is a photo of the Interborough from the 1940s on NYC Roads.com, and it was undivided. It's highly probable that his other roads built before around 1935 also were undivided. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 15:29:22 2007, in response to A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 9 14:16:58 2007. Hopefully this topic is coming to a close so I'd like to summarize the major points I think most of us can agree on.1. Moses made many useful contributions. 2. Much have what he built never would have gotten done had he not lived, would have been built years later, and much of it would have been scaled down and we would be worse off today if that were the case. 3. He needlessly hurt many people, and his tactics left much to be desired. 4. During the period of his greatest power, there were few if any people advocating mass transit not only in NY but in the entire US. 5. There is no proof that if the money he spent on roads would have been spent on transit if he were not so powerful. In fact much of the funding that went into building his roads and parks would have gone to cities other than New York. (At one point in the Power Broker, Caro makes the point that Moses even had money spent on roads and parks that the City would have spent on building new schools which were also sorely needed.) 6. That if there were someone like Moses advocating for mass transit at the same time Moses was in power (the original topic of this discussion), he would have had a very tough time competing for the same funds because of Moses' power. To succeed he would have had to have a similar personality to Moses which would mean that he would have built subway lines to suit his purposes which might not have been in the interests of the City as a whole. Would you say this is a fair assessment of this discussion? |
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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Feb 14 16:01:38 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 19:24:12 2007. HE'S A NAZI! GET HIM! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 14 16:12:50 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 15:29:22 2007. Moses made many useful contributionsList them. Much have what he built never would have gotten done had he not lived, would have been built years later, and much of it would have been scaled down and we would be worse off today if that were the case Like? There is no proof that if the money he spent on roads would have been spent on transit if he were not so powerful. In fact much of the funding that went into building his roads and parks would have gone to cities other than New York There's no proof of the converse of the former, and no proof of the latter. |
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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 17:06:07 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 14 16:12:50 2007. My guess is that you didn't read the Power Broker, because if you had, you wouldn't ask for a list of his contributions."List them" Other than Central Park and a few others, New York had virtually no parks to speak of. We were so park hungry that in the 1800s people routinely picnicked in cemeteries or alongside rural roads. He built several hundred within the City in a few short years. Most of the roads he built were necessary and NY would not be nearly as successful without them. Yes, they could have taken different routes with much less displacement of people, but that is another story. His contributions through out the entire state including Long Island are too numerous to mention. Like Caro, I'm not a fan of the housing he built but some also consider the vast amount of housing he built also to be a contribution. "Like" Just one example, I already mentioned that the LIE probably would have been a surface boulevard in the City limits if Moses didn't have the vision to make it limited access. Just look at the results where Moses did not build. It takes forever to get across Brooklyn because there is no Cross Brooklyn Expressway. Without him, there probably would never have been a Belt Parkway and it would take two hours today to travel from Greenpoint to Coney Island today using local streets without it. With it, it still takes an hour and a half if you use local streets and the distance is only 10 miles. "Proof of the former" I think Chris already made a powerful case of this numerous times in this discussion. There is no reason to repeat them again. |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by DCmetrogreen on Wed Feb 14 17:31:59 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 15:07:31 2007. Why was Richard Nixon in her posession?"When she died, my friend found an autographed picture of her with Richard Nixon in her possessions." |
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Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 18:12:47 2007, in response to Re: I AM A HIGH SCHOOL STDENT! Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by DCmetrogreen on Wed Feb 14 17:31:59 2007. I guess they forgot to bury him, much like James Brown. |
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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 20:14:40 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by American Pig on Wed Feb 14 16:01:38 2007. Achtung! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 20:20:32 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 14 16:12:50 2007. List them.Oh stop it, as mentioned throughout this thread, many of his roads and bridges are an asset we enjoy to this day. And just about no one anywhere in any city was spending money on transit in Moses' era. The golden age of Transit across the country was from about 1880 to about 1930. The golden age of road building was from about 1930 to the late 1960's. He brought money to NY, limited federal funds that other cities also wanted. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 14 20:22:02 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 15:29:22 2007. Yes, love him or hate him, Moses did many good things for NY, and a lot of bad things. Without him many of the parks and roads would not exist. Of course, his tactics left much to be desired.Your post sums it up pretty well. |
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Interboro stuff: Re: Set Your VCR |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Feb 15 11:12:37 2007, in response to Re: Set Your VCR, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Feb 14 15:03:37 2007. Here's a little Interboro Parkway tidbit:"In Spring of 1931, the Old Timer, as a boy, sat on a hill in Cypress Hills Cemetery and watched a large number of Italian laborers with picks and shovels carefully unearth several hundred caskets. When all of the designated caskets had been unearthed, they were reburied in other plots in the cemetery. The engineers worked to disturb the fewest graves, accounted for the curved road that still exists today. When the bodies were removed, the City of New York’s Board of Estimate vested title to the right-of-way and approved the map of Grand Central Parkway to connect with the Interboro Parkway. In July 1931, work was progressing on the parkway. It was announced that it would cost $1,500,000 to connect the boroughs of Brooklyn and Queens. The first bridge in Glendale was nearing completion. This was one of the bridges over the parkway in Cypress Hills Cemetery. Queens Borough President George Harvey inspected this section of the parkway between Cypress Hills Street and Forest Park and watched the pouring of concrete for the first bridge. This section of the parkway was built by Walsh Brothers. It passed through Mount Carmel and Cypress Hills cemeteries, where several hundred bodies had been dug up and reburied. Got it from here: Times Newsweekly |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Feb 15 11:37:52 2007, in response to Interboro stuff: Re: Set Your VCR, posted by ntrainride on Thu Feb 15 11:12:37 2007. ...and here's an early pic of the parkway: taken from oldkewgardens.com |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 11:39:41 2007, in response to Re: Interboro stuff: Re: Set Your VCR, posted by ntrainride on Thu Feb 15 11:37:52 2007. HOLY CRAP!!!! I think that's the section that now passes through that narrow section where the subway is! |
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Posted by Pk Slope F on Thu Feb 15 11:52:24 2007, in response to Re: Interboro stuff: Re: Set Your VCR, posted by ntrainride on Thu Feb 15 11:37:52 2007. I like how they have that big "SLOW" painted on the road. Little did they know people still need to drive slow on the Interboro. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Feb 15 11:53:53 2007, in response to Re: Interboro stuff: Re: Set Your VCR, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 11:39:41 2007. "I think that's the section that now passes through that narrow section where the subway is!"I've looked at the site but couldn't find any info about where the pic was taken. |
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Re: Interboro stuff: Re: Set Your VCR |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 11:55:46 2007, in response to Re: Interboro stuff: Re: Set Your VCR, posted by ntrainride on Thu Feb 15 11:53:53 2007. It's facing eastward on the JR Parkway, taken from what is now the Queens Blvd overpass. |
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Re: Interboro stuff: Re: Set Your VCR |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 11:58:22 2007, in response to Re: Interboro stuff: Re: Set Your VCR, posted by Pk Slope F on Thu Feb 15 11:52:24 2007. The "SLOW" is there because then, as now, the road narrows to go through that very tight section for the underpass under Queens Blvd. Then, as now you had to slow down to get through that underpass, which is very very tight. |
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